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Can Household Furnishings Be Included In The Financing Of A Property?

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Mortgage and Lending with George Souto NMLS #65149 FHA, CHFA, VA Mortgages NMLS #65149

 

Ginny Gorman wrote a blog last week titled "So You Want the Furniture - Well I Sell Real Estate" which I commented the following on

"Ginny as long as it is not part of the sales contract it is OK, but the minute that Underwriting notices that personal items are part of the sales contract, the financing could be in jeopardy.  Realtors need to be careful with that."

Ginny thinking ahead as she always is, quickly came back with:

"George, I think this is a great forthcoming blog from you!"

At first I chuckled but then it hit me, she was right, I needed to do a blog further explaining "Can Household Furnishings Be Included In The Financing Of A Property?".

The quick answer is that all financing programs have restrictions on including personal/household items in the financing of a property.  I am not going to blog about all of them but I do want to provide the guidelines for Fannie Mae, and FHA.  Because the blog would be to long if I were to include them both in one blog, I will do separate blogs on each one.  I will start with the one that has the more condensed guidelines on this issue, Fannie Mae.

Fannie Mae refers to this as "Interested Party Contributions" (IPCs), and defines it as:

"Costs that are normally the responsibility of the property purchaser that are paid directly or indirectly by someone else who has a financial interest in, or can influence the terms and the sale or transfer of, the subject property."

Examples of an interested party to a transaction includes:

  • Seller
  • Builder/Developer
  • Real Estate Agent/Broker
  • Any other party that would benefit financially from the sale of the property.

Fannie Mae, gets even more specific when it comes to Sales Concessions, and how they will be addressed if included in the Sals Contract:

"Sales Concessions are IPCs that take the form of non-realty items.  They include cash, furniture, automobiles, decorator allowances, moving costs, and other giveaways, as well as financing concessions that exceed Fannie Mae limits.  Consequently, the value of sales concessions must be deducted from the sales price when calculating LTV and combined LTV ratios for underwriting and eligibility purposes."

As you can clearly see Fannie Mae will not allow the inclusion of furniture, curtains, or much to my dismay wide screen TV sets.  Any mention of these or other similar items in the Sales Contract will result in a reduction to the financing, by devaluing the property by the estimated value of the items.  Not only will they result in a reduction to the financing, they may even jeopardize the financing all together if not removed from the Sales Contract.  Exceptions would be items that are customarily thought of as being part of the house like stove, refrigerator, and dishwasher.

In the next blog I will cover FHA, and FHA Guidelines even get more specific than Fannie Mae, and will help to clarify anything that may be vague in the Fannie Mae Guidelines.

 

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Comments(31)

Stefan C. Jezycki
Pacific Union International - Christie's Great Estates - Napa, CA

Great post. I just had a negotiation break down due to the buyer getting caight up on what the seller would not leave in the house, patio furniture, wine refrigerator, tvs, etc. I now have a tool to rebuff this issue. I have always said, I sell real estate. I do not sell personal property.

Thank you.

Stefan Jezycki, Napa Valley CA

Jun 19, 2012 11:20 PM
Amanda Christiansen
Christiansen Group Realty (260)704-0843 - Fort Wayne, IN
Christiansen Group Realty

I let the personal property negotiations take place between the buyer and seller.  No need to include it on the purchase agreement.  Great post!  

Jun 19, 2012 11:34 PM
Richie Alan Naggar
people first...then business Ran Right Realty - Riverside, CA
agent & author

You never know what it takes to seal a deal....I remember selling my home and getting an offer that included everything except clothes...It threw me off

Jun 19, 2012 11:42 PM
Ron Tissier
Chapman Hall Premier Realtors (404) 580-9069 - Atlanta, GA
Defining Homes. Defining Lifestyles.

When it comes to personal items such as furniture, tv's, window treatments, etc. just remember "KISS" or Keep It Separate Silly"...  from the P&S Agreement that is.

Jun 19, 2012 11:43 PM
Gita Bantwal
RE/MAX Centre Realtors - Warwick, PA
REALTOR,ABR,CRS,SRES,GRI - Bucks County & Philadel

Thank you for the information. I always advice buyers and sellers to negotiate the furniture separately and pay for it .

Jun 20, 2012 12:29 AM
Gene Mundt, IL/WI Mortgage Originator - FHA/VA/Conv/Jumbo/Portfolio/Refi
NMLS #216987, IL Lic. 031.0006220, WI Licensed. APMC NMLS #175656 - New Lenox, IL
708.921.6331 - 40+ yrs experience

Great blog, George.  With investment properties and 2nd home purchases on the rise, buyers (and their agents) will be running into this issue more frequently.  As always, it's best to be educated prior to decision-making.  You serve a great purpose to those considering these types of purchases ...

Gene

Jun 20, 2012 01:02 AM
Kathy Streib
Cypress, TX
Home Stager/Redesign

George- this is important information to know especially Realtors.  Buyers and Sellers may not be aware of all of the different restrictions or regulations.  

Jun 20, 2012 01:08 AM
Joe Petrowsky
Mortgage Consultant, Right Trac Financial Group, Inc. NMLS # 2709 - Manchester, CT
Your Mortgage Consultant for Life

As you know, appliances, furniture and other stuff can easily become an issue. Underwriters do have some room to make a decision in this area, but I have seen more issues when the appraisers start doing adjustments for these items.

Jun 20, 2012 01:51 AM
Sandy Acevedo
951-290-8588 - Chino Hills, CA
RE/MAX Masters, Inland Empire Homes for Sale

Hi George, well put. For these reasons it is not a good idea, and besides, if financed, you will be paying for 30 years for simple furniture.

Jun 20, 2012 01:51 AM
Kate McQueen
Realty Associates Texas - Cypress, TX
Tailored service for your real estate needs!

I saw a listing in MLS a couple of months ago that included practically ALL of the furnishings, and it was worded in that way in the remarks.  I wondered how on earth they planned to handle that with a non-cash buyer.

Jun 20, 2012 03:54 AM
Kate McQueen
Realty Associates Texas - Cypress, TX
Tailored service for your real estate needs!

In Texas there is a non-realty addendum that can be attached in many cases of items that are in the gray area between what might be a fixture and what isn't.  I'm sure this is probably true in most states.

Jun 20, 2012 04:01 AM
Bill Gillhespy
16 Sunview Blvd - Fort Myers Beach, FL
Fort Myers Beach Realtor, Fort Myers Beach Agent - Homes & Condos

Hi George,  Many of our sales here on Fort Myers Beach involve furnished condos.  The best way to handle this is to include the phrase "Furniture left as a convenience to seller and has no contributory value ! "

Jun 20, 2012 05:44 AM
Tanja Cisliek
Future Home Realty - Seminole, FL
Real estate with passion and professionalism!

George, This is a great post, very valuable information you put together here, I think it’s great that you got featured. Quality content such as yours deserves to be showcased and recognized, congrats on the feature, and thanks for a sharing your knowledge!

 

Jun 20, 2012 07:11 AM
Mark Montross
Catamount Realty Group - Burlington, VT
Listing and Buyer Specialist

Wow, I would never have thought of curtains as being something that they would deduct from the price of a house. Thank you for posting.

Jun 20, 2012 08:09 AM
Nick T Pappas
Assoc. Broker ABR, CRS, SFR, e-Pro, @Homes Realty Group, Broker/Providence Property Mgmnt, LLC Huntsville AL - Huntsville, AL
Madison & Huntsville Alabama Real Estate Resource

George, I usually try to get buyers and sellers to handle personal property on a separate bill of sale.  I represented a buyer once quite a while ago who wanted a house full of furniture that the seller wanted to sell.  I didn't want to list it in the contract, but was talked into it by buyer, seller and listing agent.  When the lender saw it they slammed on the brakes...eventually we got it closed, but not within removing several items from the contract.

Jun 20, 2012 09:14 AM
Ginny Gorman
RI Real Estate Services ~ 401-529-7849~ RI Waterfront Real Estate - North Kingstown, RI
Homes for Sale in Southern RI and beyond

George, i went to suggest and you already had the gold star...great tackle on this one and it is not even football season yet!  I was lucky that my buyers were doing this all outside closing...great share!

Jun 20, 2012 09:41 AM
Barbara Altieri
Better Homes and Gardens RE Shore and Country Properties - Shelton, CT
REALTOR-Fairfield County CT Homes/Condos For Sale

George - Most buyers (and some agents) are not aware how the inclusion of household furnishings will reduce the value of the property. Excellent heads up and advice.  Well done.....again!!

Jun 20, 2012 10:36 AM
Lenn Harley
Lenn Harley, Homefinders.com, MD & VA Homes and Real Estate - Leesburg, VA
Real Estate Broker - Virginia & Maryland

This is a matter of conveyances.

Agents should know the difference between real and personal property.

 

Jun 20, 2012 07:57 PM
Bob Miller
Keller Williams Cornerstone Realty - Ocala, FL
The Ocala Dream Team

Hi George, thanks for the official language.  I knew personal should not be in there, but now know more speciffically why.

Jun 20, 2012 08:01 PM
House Hunt
HouseHunt.com - Huntington Beach, CA

Reblogging this! :-)

Jul 19, 2012 05:18 AM