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The Upside Down State of Mind

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Real Estate Agent with The Carver Home Team 24332

Upside Down Home

 

To sell or not to sell, that is the question. I know there are people out there that are in the same boat we are in. We are making our payments on time. Sometimes stretching to make our payments on time. But we can't sell our home because we are upside down (more owing than the value of the home). We met, fell in love and both sold our homes at the peak of the market (didn't know it was the peak at the time) and bought at the peak of the market. Lo and behold, 6 years later, our huge down payment has disappeared into thin air!

Well, we were told that we couldn't get a loan modification because we weren't behind. We couldn't refinance because our loan to value exceeded the 105% (congress said to go up to 125% but none of the lenders went along with that, at least not the ones we talked to). Our loan wasn't sold to FNMA or FHLMC, so we didn't qualify for that program! Then earlier this year, Congress approved this program whose loan wasn't sold to FNMA or FHLMC. Boy, were we excited! Here is our chance. We trapes down to the bank and said, okay, we now qualify. Then after they looked up our loan, they said, no we don't. Why, I thought they just approved that program for us non-fannie freddie people? Oh, that's only for the people who took out their mortgage after 2008! Those people were the ones that were mistreated by the big lenders, according to the study, and people with those loans were going to be compensated. (I was beginning to wonder if they wrote programs around our loan so that we wouldn't qualify no matter what new program comes out.)

So, what to do what to do? Well, we decided that since we aren't able to downsize now, we will continue to keep the house up and in working order. Since we love the house anyway. we'll continue to improve on things in the house that needs to be improved upon and someday soon, when the economy improves (which it is beginning to) and value of homes start ascending again, the condition of our home will still be in tip top shape so that it would even up with the current values at the time we are ready to sell.

Matthew Johnson
Keller Williams Premier Realty - Woodbury, MN

The hard part is seeing how much you can get for your $ right now, I'm in the same boat!

Jun 27, 2012 12:39 AM
Erv Fleishman
Realty Associates - Boca Raton, FL
Luxury Prop Specialist Realty Associates

If you can afford to make the payments, then staying there and hopefully enjoying the home is the right decision.

Prices will come back and hopefully you can turn the picture right side up.

Good luck.

Jun 27, 2012 12:56 AM
Cyndi Carver
The Carver Home Team - Covington, WA
Newcastle & East Renton Specialist

Matthew, it's always nice to know alot of us are in the same boat and we are survivers!

Jun 27, 2012 01:38 AM
Cyndi Carver
The Carver Home Team - Covington, WA
Newcastle & East Renton Specialist

Erv, we can afford the payment, just can't afford to retire! I love this business so I will probably never retire but my honey sure would like to go part time.

Jun 27, 2012 01:40 AM
Joy Daniels
Joy Daniels Real Estate Group, Ltd. - Harrisburg, PA

I agree with Erv - if you can aford to make your payments and enjoy your home - then continue to do so until the economy improves or with your business, you may find the perfect buyer and not even be trying!

Jun 27, 2012 11:52 AM
Dave Halpern
Dave Halpern Real Estate Agent, Inc., Louisville, KY (502) 664-7827 - Louisville, KY
Louisville Short Sale Expert

Sometimes sellers tell me they should have done a short sale years earlier. Yes it knocks down their credit, but they could have started the rebuilding process earlier. In the meantime they struggled and maybe got into deeper debt to keep the house payments up. When the house goes away in a foreclosure or short sale, all they have left is the additional debt they incurred.

 

Jun 27, 2012 12:33 PM
Cyndi Carver
The Carver Home Team - Covington, WA
Newcastle & East Renton Specialist

Joy - that is what I am encouraging all my sellers to make that decision before they list. I want to make sure I test the temperature of the sellers.

Dave - It is so sad to hear some of my clients using up their retirement account to keep up on their mortgage because they do not want to ruin their credit. I have closed several short sales where the seller was NOT behind on their payment. It's the late payments that hurt their credit more than the fact that they had to short their payoff.

Jun 27, 2012 01:27 PM
Carolyn Kolba
Serving Mentor, and all of Lake County, Ohio - Mentor, OH
Keller Williams Realty- Mentor, Ohio

Cyndi, that really sounds like the best thing to do.  Bellevue is such a great area, and I think once the recovery and the housing market really gets rolling... prices will improve nicely.  You may actually end up right-side-up rather than upside down.  How nice that would be !

Jun 27, 2012 04:21 PM
Cyndi Carver
The Carver Home Team - Covington, WA
Newcastle & East Renton Specialist

Carolyn - that is truly our belief. It is already become right side up in some neighborhoods.

Jun 27, 2012 04:35 PM
Mary Elizabeth Allen
Lake Monticello, VA

Cyndi - thank you for telling your story - I'm in a similar boat, only just pushing off from shore! Same story, bought at the height of the market, then values plummeted, our downpayment disappeared, etc. I'm in the factfinding stage at the moment to see what the options are and how fast our market is recovering (or not).   

Jun 28, 2012 12:12 AM
Joetta Fort
The DiGiorgio Group - Arvada, CO
Independent Broker, Homes Denver to Boulder

I hear the same story over and over, unfortunately.  We are upside-down on a rental property, and are sick to death of being landlords. There's sure no way to get a loan mod on an investment property!  

Jun 28, 2012 12:31 AM
Cyndi Carver
The Carver Home Team - Covington, WA
Newcastle & East Renton Specialist

Mary - Economy here in Seattle has really picked up this quarter. Hope it continues so that we could get the loan balance paid down while house values appreciate and we can somehow even it up so that we could take advantage of the low interest rate, thus getting the payment down.

 

Joetta - We thought about getting rental properties also but the thought of making payments on the place if the tenants don't pay isn't very appealing to us.

Jun 28, 2012 04:28 AM
Paul McFadden
Responsive Pest Control - Seattle, WA
Pest Control, Seattle, WA.

Cyndi: I like your upside down picture. Very clever! Have a great day!

Jun 28, 2012 04:29 AM
Cyndi Carver
The Carver Home Team - Covington, WA
Newcastle & East Renton Specialist

Thanks, Paul!

Jun 28, 2012 05:25 AM
Tanja Cisliek
Future Home Realty - Seminole, FL
Real estate with passion and professionalism!

Cyndi, I love the upside down photo, it immediately made me want to continue reading and learning what you had to say. Great eye-catcher for a great post, good job!

Jun 30, 2012 11:29 PM