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It turns on and makes noise---it must be working!

By
Home Inspector with Charles Buell Inspections Inc.

 

Your bathroom has an exhaust fan.

Hopefully.

While not required in every instance, in modern construction I think they are essential.

For this exercise let’s assume you have one.  How do you know it works?  “Well, I can hear it running,” you might say.  OK---let me be a little more precise.  How do you know it is “functional.”  By functional I mean how do you know it is pulling air from the room.  (For now we won’t discuss where it is going after it leaves the room---that will make the post too long.)

Home inspectors will not generally pull out expensive testing equipment to determine if the fan is functional.  A simple test, that is highly unscientific, that does give us “some” indication of function is whether the fan will suck a tissue paper up against the grille.  Another test is to put same tissue paper on the floor right at the bottom of the door to the room and then turn on the fan.  If the fan sucks the tissue across the floor that is a pretty good indication as well that the fan is “functional” to some degree.

So let’s say that the fan does not hold a tissue paper and it does not move away from the door during operation.  Both of these conditions can be caused by either a blocked exhaust on the fan or too tight a seal on the bottom of the door.  We do not want to say replace the fan or figure out if the duct is blocked (perhaps bees have filled the cap with nests and the flap can’t open) if it is a simple matter that air cannot get into the room. One can open the door a little and then see if the fan will hold a tissue.

Another common problem that this simple test can reveal is what is pictured in the following picture.

vent holding tissue paper

The fan is indeed pulling air----but is blowing it right back into the room on the other side of the grille.  Ideally when running this test, the entire grille should be covered with tissue, but with experience the inspector can figure it out with partial coverage.

As you can see, this simple tissue paper test can tell us a lot about the true function of the fan---not simply that it turns on and makes noise.

 

Charles Buell, Real Estate Inspections in Seattle

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Wallace S. Gibson, CPM
Gibson Management Group, Ltd. - Charlottesville, VA
LandlordWhisperer

Turning on an OPERATIONAL bath fan, opening shower curtains AND leaving the bath door open are easy ways to remove the potential for MOLD in a bathroom.  Funny how many people do the EXACT opposite and think that is the way to fix mildew.

Jul 04, 2012 12:27 AM
Sheila Anderson
Referral Group Incorporated - East Brunswick, NJ
The Real Estate Whisperer Who Listens 732-715-1133

Good morning Charles. What a simple and great test. Another thing to do is the smell test. If it doesn't work in your home, you know it. Happy 4th.

Jul 04, 2012 12:28 AM
Carl Winters
Canyon Lake, TX

Charles: Good informative blogs.

Happy 4th of July.

Jul 04, 2012 12:53 AM
Chris Smith
Re/Max Chay Realty Inc., Brokerage - New Tecumseth, ON
South Simcoe, Caledon, King, Orangeville Real Esta

Charles, Happy 4th of July to you, I hope you are enjoying your day.  Great tip, I will keep this in mind.

Jul 04, 2012 05:19 AM
Donna Foerster
HomeSmart Realty Group - Parker, CO
Metro Denver Real Estate Assistant

Charles~ I learned something new today.  I'm going to try this test in my bathrooms!

Jul 04, 2012 09:26 AM
Donald Hester
NCW Home Inspections, LLC - Wenatchee, WA
NCW Home Inspections, LLC

Charlie, That is where my lost tissue went ; ) I carry a roll of he the old fan test with me for those occasions that I need it to test a exhaust fan or two.

Jul 04, 2012 12:58 PM
Steven Cook
No Longer Processing Mortgages. - Tacoma, WA

Charles -- are you suggesting people may be needing operational fans this Fourth of July?  Blessings.

Jul 04, 2012 01:42 PM
Charles Buell
Charles Buell Inspections Inc. - Seattle, WA
Seattle Home Inspector

Wallace, perhaps the most important thing one can do---even more important that running the fan during a shower---is to crank the heat up in the bathroom prior to taking a shower----and then running the fan for 20 minutes after the shower.

Shelia, I would just as soon not go there :)

Carl and Ceil, thanks

Chris, I actually had to work and will watch the fireworks in the neighborhood

Donna, let us know your results

Don, in a pinch there is always 100 dollar bills :)

Steven, not sure about that :)

Jul 04, 2012 01:53 PM
Kathryn Maguire
GreatNorfolkHomes.com (757) 560-0881 - Chesapeake, VA
Serving Chesapeake, Norfolk, VA Beach

Fascinating. I would have never thought that a fan would be able to suck air on one side and blow back out on the other side.  

Jul 04, 2012 11:38 PM
Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

Brilliant, gentlemanly minds think alike!  I wish I had a dollar for every time I have showed that to a client.  We could meet at The Glove again!

Jul 05, 2012 10:58 AM
Charles Buell
Charles Buell Inspections Inc. - Seattle, WA
Seattle Home Inspector

Kathryn the air going in has to go somewhere---it just bounces around inside and comes back out

Jay, are you coming to see the glove again?

Jul 06, 2012 04:01 AM
Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

I'd love to see the kids, and you and Julie.  Right now I haven't the time, but when I get out there again we will make arrangements!

Jul 06, 2012 08:49 AM
Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

Ha!  My inspection this afternoon had the in and out bath vent!  I thought of you...

Jul 06, 2012 10:25 AM
Reuben Saltzman
Structure Tech Home Inspections - Minneapolis, MN
Delivering the Unbiased Truth.

I always carry around the super-thin poly sheeting (.35 mil?) to lay down on the floor below the attic access panel.  A little piece of that stuff works very well to cover the entire fan grill.

The big different between between you and me is that while I'm doing this test, I explain that this is an extremely complicated, super-scientific test ;-)

Jul 08, 2012 11:23 AM
Charles Buell
Charles Buell Inspections Inc. - Seattle, WA
Seattle Home Inspector

Jay, next time maybe a soccer game :)

Reuben, I could see this coming and will perhaps adjust my protocol :)

Jul 08, 2012 01:21 PM