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20 Comments on The EPA is Out of Control: $20 billion & 100,000 Navajo Jobs at Stake
You know what Ronald Reagan said were the most dangerous words spoken: "I'm from the government and I'm here to help."
We need to be RID of these petty bureaucracies that exist only to keep themselves in existence. If they weren't writing ridiculous regulations, who could justify their salaries?
Thanks for your comment, Marty. The EPA is petty in the way it behaves but not in it's size and power.
It's push to ban or limit the tried and proven practice of fraturing oil and gas wells is another example of the EPA being out of control.
One problem is that the Navajo Generating Station is a coal fired power plant, and coal is an inherently dirty fuel. Their plant is causing much of the haze in the Grand Canyon, and is emitting mercury into the air. That's nasty stuff.
A bigger problem for the Navajo is that the current incredibly low price of natural gas is causing coal to be rapidly disavowed as a fuel source. Gas prices are so low because production in the US is higher than at any time in the past, and because new technology has made gas fields accessible that were not in prior years.
I live in Wyoming, a state with no income tax, no franchise tax, no corporate taxes. All because the state mines a tremendous amount of coal and makes their money taxing that. We will have to find a new source of income, because coal is on the way out as a fuel source. The world recognizes that natural gas is cheaper and cleaner, and that's a death knell for coal.
Tim, you are right in that coal is "on the way out." I think that coal needs eventually to be replaced -- and probably by natural gas. But coal needs to be phased out by market forces and not by edict by the EPA. I am from Oklahoma and have first-hand experience with oil and gas. Oil and Gas is to Oklahoma what coal is to Wyoming.
Market forces will allow development of natural gas at affordable prices. It will take time for natural gas to become economical enough to replace coal on a large scale. We need the coal industry now to allow the time for natural gas to be developed.
The Navajo nation has many rights that average citizens do not have, one being that they control their land. The government is using old tricks to get them to switch over to NG. it is plentiful and is clearly going to be in the mix in the future. But this all needs to be done slowly. To assume that NG will remain cost effective is putting your head in the sand. If that were true, then gasoline would be cheap.
Dale, you are right. The Navajo Nation does have rights the rest of us do not have, but they still struggle nonetheless. The land on which they exist is among the most barren in Arizona and in all the west. Does Kayenta and Monument Valley come to mind? One of the reasons they struggle is that the Federal Government wants them to be dependent. The closing of the power plant will make that happen in a big way. The Navajos are remote, so the Indian Gaming that produces income for other tribes is not effective for them.
The transitions from one form of energy to another should be done slowly and should be done by market forces and not driven by agendas.
The decline of coal is inevitable. We as a country should recognize it and make the appropriate adjustments.
Gasoline costs too much because domestic production of oil has been stifled, refineries closed down and production of new refineries blocked.
0bama said he would shut down the coal plants and increase gas prices to European levels. This is about the only thing that he has kept his word on.
Obama's alternate energy plan is not working. Market forces are stronger than he is.
It's about dependency- not the love of clean air. If our politicians on the federal level cared about pollution they wouldn't keep the white house at 85 in the winter. The Obamas wouldn't be taking separate planes for vacation. Congress people wouldn't be flying all over the planet to accomplish jobs that could be taken care of here. Have they never heard of the internet or skyping??? We really had to send congress people and their families to Copenhagen to listen to a bunch of quacks discuss global warming???
You are right, Jackie. Global Warming is the biggest HOAX perpetated on the entire world. The supporting "scientists" are supported by federal dollars for the best "research" [grant] money can buy.
For further explanation of this see my blog post regarding United Nations Agenda 21.
The EPA is way over reaching and should hauled back in. Lets make that happen with November's vote.
Has the EPA threatened to close down this plant or simply demanded they cleanup one of the dirtiest power generating facilities in America?
Karl --I think the pollution levels produced at the Navajo Generating Station are so low that absolutely NO fix is necessary. Have you ever been to Lake Powell or Page, Arizona? I think not. The location of The Navajo Generating Station is in the Town of Page, Arizona. Lake Powell is quite a popular place to enjoy boating and the great outdoors. I never heard anyone mention any smog or other pollution problem.
I am not sure how you people in the northeast who have never been to Arizona think it is OK to tell us what to do. You can do that AFTER you come to Arizona and survey the situation for yourself.
I truly believe that the EPA is a sham. It is being used by the Obama Administration to further it's agenda. It there is ANY science involved in the decision process, it is based on information from "scientists" who take grant money to give the answers the EPA wants to hear and use.
There may be a few instances where the EPA actually controls or eliminates a real pollution problem but their out-of-control behavior completely destroys their credibility. I go back to my comment #10 and the material at the link to the Agenda 21 material.
Has the EPA threatened to close down the plant? And if so, why?
Karl -- The EPA does not for the most part make threats of closing plants down. They impose REGULATION, backed up by enormous fines. This destroys the ECONOMIC VIABILITY of the operations so the owners or management team has to shut them down.
A few years ago, the "Greens" such a the Sierra Club and the Center for Biological Diversity filed lawsuits and shut down a pulp mill in Snowflake, Arizona. This put the entire logging business in NE Arizona out of business because there was no place to sell the smaller logs they were CONTRACTED to remove. This is the root cause for the Rodeo-Chedeski forest fire we had here a few years ago.
The WHY is explained in my blog post regarding United Nations Agenda 21.
John,
The EPA is no friend to the average American. It needs to go as I have posted many times. :)
Steve
You are right, Steve. Not only the EPA but also the rest of government departments. These include the Agriculture Department, Department of Homeland Security, Department of Education and Dept of the Interior (ESA, Forest Service, etc.) Maling a complete list would be quite a project.
John,
I can live with a restructured Interior but the others are gone - Energy and Labor also. :)
Steve
John,
Congratulations. This post is now featured in "Celebrating Free Enterprise." :)
Steve
Thanks, Steve, for the feature.
As I mentioned in by post, the total list of "problem" overreaching government agencies is a major project. The Department of Energy and the Department of Labor are near the top of the offenders.
The Department of the Interior is over the US Forest Service. The Forest Service cooperates with the "Greens" to control our forests and to stand in the way of keeping our forests healthy. They also help to enforce parts of the Endangered Species Act. The Fish and Game Department also profits from having their empire built as the primary enforcer of the ESA.