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31 Comments on “Toto, We’re Not in the Housing Bubble Anymore!”
Bob, thank you. Glad you liked it.
David, Eric definitely raised a good discussion. Thanks for your comment,
Hi James, thanks! :-)
Pamela, thank you for your kind words and the suggest. It looked like it worked!
Adrian, I think there are always things to be cautious of -- home buying more so. Thank you!
Charlie, it has been rough for everyone.
Tammy, I know Eric was not including those with hardships. We all have had to cut out things and not do as much as we used to. Hopefully, we'll be seeing better days ahead. Thanks for your input.
Bryan, so true! When many realize it's not in their control any more, they are ready to move on and start rebuilding. Thanks for your comment today,
Hello, Adam, summer's here and the warm weather. Have to keep looking forward. Thanks for your comment today,
Greg, as I've been told, definitely need an attorney. I haven't participated in a lease purchase option though I've been asked about them. Thanks for your comment,
Joe, I agree, there is not a moral hazard written in the contract. Borrower pays, stays. Borrower doesn't pay, lender forecloses. It doesn't matter if there is a hardship or not, except when it comes to short sales, which the lender agrees to accept less than what is owed. For the lender to agree there has to be a hardship or reason to justify short payoff. That's where the hardship comes in.
Perhaps I wasn't clear, but I was referring more to homeowners who pretend to short sale thinking they can stall the inevitable foreclosure. If they get approved, great, if not, it doesn't matter to them because they were intending on walking anyway. I call that gaming the system because it's wasting everyone's time but their own.
P.S. As Tammy said, many homeowners would rather not walk even if they've lost equity, but do everything they can to stick it out and continue paying. That's an individual choice. Certainly not written in the contract. Thanks for your comment today,
Pamela, great title and content. These days everyone needs to have mortgage documents reviewed by an attorney. Its a shame it is the way it is, however, it needs to be done so we don't repeat history again. Well deserved feature!
Cheryl, practically no one read their documents during the housing bubble. I'm sure there's a few out there who did, or at least understood. I think buyers just looked at the monthly payment and trusted what they were told, that they could refinance, or they just didn't think they would get in to trouble later. Most of my short sale sellers tell me had they known where they'd end up, they wouldn't have bought their home.
There's definitely alot of blame to go around in this mess. I certainly don't want to blame the homeowner. I like to think I'm their biggest advocate. But if we are to learn anything from our past mistakes, I think it is important to understand the consequences of what we are signing. Many of those hybrid and sub-prime loans aren't around right now, but you never know, lenders could bring them back. Thanks for your comment today,
Pamela: Just as buyers choose their homes as individuals .. with individual tastes and in differing manners, buyers also pursue financing much the same way. Most are earnestly interested and hoping to make wise decisions based upon their efforts to learn and listen. But I've run into some clients ... that no matter how hard I try to get them to listen .. or provide them the time to ask questions and learn, they choose to not do so. You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make them drink. As a mortgage lender, I do my best to explain and give time and attention to each of my clients and their needs. As I said, for most ... those efforts are accepted, utilized, and appreciated. But for some ... no ... never
Gene
Wow - I am shocked that anyone would consider using a hard money lender to purchase a primary residence. I think of them as SOMETIMES being appropriate for flippers. Flippers who know what they are doing.
We are seeing tons of callers who want us to find them lease options or seller financing. If you cannot get the money from a bank, there's a reason, and if you must find alternate sources then you're going to pay for it.
Gene, it's true what you say, you can lead a horse to water, but... Not easy being a mortgage lender, or agent, sometimes. Thanks for your comment to day,
Laura, definitely agree with you! Hard money loans are not for investors, not the first-time home buyer. I've seen advertisements, and wonder if the public might not understand them. Thanks for your comment today,
Kevin, yep, those with not great credit.
Erica, same here. One customer told me her landlord wanted to sell to her under lease purchase option at twice the market value! The buyer will end up paying more than she needs to. Not good, thanks for your comment,
Pamela, thanks for writing this. I fully agree with you. I did mention that there are actual hardships, and my blog wasn't aimed at them. The hope is that the market will come back enough to keep everyone in their homes until they can sell the "normal" way.
Temecula Valley buyers can benefit from the loan type that you have mentioned Pamela.
Pamela - At least the short sale sellers may be able to buy after 2 to 3 years. They just have to be patient.
How do you determine "who have hardships and are serious about selling their Temecula short sales" ?
I don't see how a person can work short sales and make those types of judgments about potential clients.
If the potential seller refinanced, do you confirm that the money they pulled out was re-invested in the house?
Do you consider divorce a hardship? After all they do have the choice to stay married.
Medical debt a hardship? Most hospitals will allow interest free re-payment.
Does the age of the seller come into play at all? An older person may be looking at not being able to retire because they're upside down where a 30 year old would have plenty of time to get back on his/her feet.
I get the idea, but don't see how it can be put into practice.
Fortunately this is something I don't have to consider in my business. I've chosen to not list short sales.
Eric, you're welcome. There are many who have real hardships. I know you weren't aiming at them. I don't know when the day will be when selling will be "normal" again. Thanks for your comment,
Tom, depends on their goals. Buying a home is a commitment. Thanks for your comment,
Christine, absolutely, with patience they'll be able to buy again and at a much lower price.
Jackie, when a homeowner tells me they don't want to continue paying because their home has lost value, and are uncooperative, don't want to make their home available for showings, don't return my phone calls, procrastinate fulfilling document requirements: those are sellers who, in my opinion, aren't serioius about short selling. They're pretending, trying to get more time to stay in their home before foreclosure. If the hardship is they just don't want to continue paying, that's not a traditional hardship. I've never submitted a short sale package where the hardship is loss of equity, and because there is so much work involved I probably won't ever.
On the other hand, I'm not the mortgage police or a mortgage broker so I don't make judgments about their income v debt. I'm not going to compare their income with their tax returns at the time they got their mortgage loan. That's outside my job description. I have to go by what they tell me. Most hardships tend to be job loss, loss of income, divorce, job relocation, and if military, PCS orders.
There are no guarantees for the homeowner that their lender will approve their short sale, and that means no guarantee for agents they'll be paid for their work. That's the way it goes in the world of short sales. It's tough, and not for every agent.
I'm just saying for those homeowners who just don't want to pay any more should consider foreclosure, and not waste agents' and buyers' time with pretending they want to short sell their home. That's deceitful to everyone involved. Thanks for your comment today,
Great post. I'm hoping that with "the bubble gone" and the slump hopefully ended (or in the process of ending in some areas), we'll all learn from the past and now this will be the beginning of a successful and healthy real estate season in so many ways.
Gretchen
Gretchen, we can only hope. Thanks for your comment,
It's wonderful that Temecula Valley has a fabulous short sale expert like yourself who can be there when help is truly needed!
Shannon, thank you! Have a great weekend.
Pamela, you have always been the advocate for the distressed seller and I am sure you have certainly helped out a few. Congrats on the feature.
Teral, thank you for your kind words. Loved your post today!