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Do you know where your plumbing clean-out is?

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Home Inspector with Charles Buell Inspections Inc.

 

This is a question that always gets answered during a home inspection and if it can’t be answered, further evaluation is recommended. 

This is especially important on older homes, because with older homes sewer scoping is going to be recommended and access to the drain is important for this special inspection.  Sometimes the clean-outs are so inaccessible the sewer scoping company will simply remove a toilet to scope the lines.  This usually results in an up-charge for the inspection, so having an accessible clean-out is a good idea.

As part of the initial-contact phone call, I will always want to know the age of the home.  For me, any home built prior to 1960 is going to get an automatic recommendation for a sewer scope.  Homes that were built prior to 1960 have a pretty high percentage of problems in my area.  In light of this I will make this recommendation right on the phone to the buyer and then they will usually try to schedule the sewer scope for the same time I am going to be there.  This kills two birds with one stone so to speak and prevents delays in the inspection contingency period. 

Houses on steep inclines also get this recommendation, as do houses built in areas of known geological settlement/shifting.

Clean-out caps come in all shapes and sizes from wood, to cast iron, to brass, to plastic.

Old wooden clean-out 

They can be missing or damaged.

Damaged clean-out cap

 

They can be "capped" creatively.

Capped with a concrete block

When they are missing they are obvious egress locations for rodents in and out of the sewer.

Missing cap and point of rodent infestation

Because people find them unsightly they often get walled-over, or made inaccessible in a variety of other ways---even buried in dirt.

Clean-out buried in dirt 

This one is perhaps the most “interesting” inaccessible clean-out I have found. 

Clean-out buried in concrete

Of course the concrete can be chipped away---but most likely the sewer scoping company will opt for removal of the toilet.

 

Charles Buell, Real Estate Inspections in Seattle

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Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

I love it when the Boy Scouts stop by to cram a log in there!  And the half buried one is very fun!  I see them half buried in driveways all the time.

Jul 15, 2012 06:30 AM
Anna "Banana" Kruchten
HomeSmart Real Estate - Phoenix, AZ
602-380-4886

Wow....this looks scary to me.  I don't run into this type of problem here but if I ever do I'll have a little knowledge of it. Thanks!

Jul 15, 2012 06:35 AM
James Quarello
JRV Home Inspection Services, LLC - Wallingford, CT
Connecticut Home Inspector

The most common issue I have with clean outs is they have been walled over by the homeowner. All though I did have one recently that the homeowner partially buried in concrete. 

Jul 15, 2012 09:41 PM
Robert Butler
Aspect Inspection - Montreal West Island, QC
Montreal Home Inspector | Aspect Inspection

When I saw that wood plug, I thought "old school", but not pro. That's handyman work.

Jul 15, 2012 10:48 PM
Charles Buell
Charles Buell Inspections Inc. - Seattle, WA
Seattle Home Inspector

Jay, people love to ignore them until they need it

Anna, no sewer scoping there?

Jim, for sure---very common here as well

Robert, when this house was built---the one with the wooden plug---this would have been the way to cap the pipe as there were no threaded caps, or at least they weren't very common yet.  They were tapered and turned cedar driven in.  To remove you simply tapped them on the side to loosen them.

Jul 15, 2012 11:26 PM
Steven Cook
No Longer Processing Mortgages. - Tacoma, WA

Charles -- that is a great selection of problems with the sewer clean out, that you have shown in this one blog.  That is very helpful for all of us to be better informed about such problems.

Jul 16, 2012 11:04 AM
Reuben Saltzman
Structure Tech Home Inspections - Minneapolis, MN
Delivering the Unbiased Truth.

Egress?  Don't you mean emergency escape and rescue opening... for the rats?  ;-) ha ha

Jul 16, 2012 11:57 AM
Charles Buell
Charles Buell Inspections Inc. - Seattle, WA
Seattle Home Inspector

Steven, thanks

Reuben, well in the second picture they may need to install a permanent step to be compliant :)

Jul 16, 2012 12:03 PM
Peg Barcelo
Fluff My House! Home Staging Inc. 250.486.6369 - Summerland, BC
The FlufftasticStager from Summerland, BC

Chahhlie, I'm glad when we reno'ed the basement bath, our contractor told us we needed to have access to the cleanout. We had to use it a couple years ago, so glad it was right there!

I can't believe that one in the exposed aggregate..

Jul 16, 2012 03:09 PM
Charles Buell
Charles Buell Inspections Inc. - Seattle, WA
Seattle Home Inspector

Peg, sounds like you had a good contractor

Jul 17, 2012 04:41 AM
Melissa Brown
Helen Adams Realty - Charlotte, NC
Realtor - South Charlotte NC Homes for Sale

The things we learn here on ActiveRain!  Love the photos of all the handiwork.  I don't know where my clean out is!

Jul 18, 2012 09:16 AM
Charles Buell
Charles Buell Inspections Inc. - Seattle, WA
Seattle Home Inspector

Melissa, it is pretty amazing really :)

Jul 18, 2012 01:49 PM