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Wouldn't Give that Buyer a Wooden Nickel - Mortgage Loans

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Real Estate Agent with RI Real Estate Services ~ 401-529-7849~ RI Waterfront Real Estate

Wouldn't Give that Buyer a Wooden Nickel - Mortgage Loans.  I have no wooden nickels but why am I having such trouble for a great wooden nickel in real estatebuyer (great credit) to close a loan?!  It can be a LONG mortgage process when a buyer only supplies what they want to give the lender and does not understand the 'full disclosure' route.

When dealing with a buyer who may have only owned a business for less than a couple of years, the double drill down from the mortgage underwriters is tough!  Every 't' that is not crossed right, every 'a' that looks like an 'o' must be corrected and even how your mom obtained her wedding ring can be called into question (alright a bit much here). 

It is not easy tasks to accomplish and bring a mortgage to closing in a timely manner when CPAs are out of the country (why are they allowed to leave their desks I ask?!) and noone else has the documents or the sharp tongue to put into writing what an underwriter requires...yes, he can vouch for their first and second and perhaps third born, really.

Supplying all documents, paperwork, financials with a business is a must up front from any buyer with a business.  No dragging of feet, hissing or moaning allowed.  Just DO IT and I'm not even a Nike sponsor but feel like one.  I can coach, remind and cheer the client on but I am not the 'doer' of documents for the mortgage underwriters.  So they wouldn't give that buyer a wooden nickel?  But a complete loan package ready to close is worth a lot more when everyone understands intently on requirements.  

Please be aware all home buyers that it is not the same mortgage process of 10 years ago!  The mortgage loan world has changed due to many changes and the mortgage underwriters are tough.  Many realtors have never dealt with a newer business owner attempting to buy a home and do not understand the intense underwriting process with documents required.

You do want that perfect house?!  It is just within reach so heed words all buyers who are new business owners trying to buy a home.  It doesn't matter how much money you put down sometimes, the lender wants to make sure you can sustain your mortgage payments when you have a minimal track record of business success ownership.  Know it is a tougher road to go on then it once was and be prepared.  I do not want to be the only one at a closing.  Wouldn't Give that Buyer a Wooden Nickel - Mortgage Loans.  

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 Ginny Lacey Gorman is a North Kingstown Realtor who works and knows the North Kingstown RI geographic area of homes for sale, schools, happenings, important tidbits of information and  businesses well.  Waterfront, water view, ocean front, luxury and coastal Rhode Island real estate are her specialty.  If your considering Buying, Selling or Relocating to Rhode Island and need a real estate Professional it would be my pleasure to help you!    When you are in need of an internet savvy RI realtor® who sells homes in this real estate marketcall Ginny today at 401.529.7849

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Comments(51)

Ginny Gorman
RI Real Estate Services ~ 401-529-7849~ RI Waterfront Real Estate - North Kingstown, RI
Homes for Sale in Southern RI and beyond

I truly also wish it were different but it is not for borrowers and they need to be very strong, employed for years and can put their first born up too...I want borrowers to understand it is not the realtor and not the mortgage officer but everything behind that mortgage system that has locked things down so much...we keep on truckin in real estate!  many thanks for great comments,

Jul 26, 2012 11:13 AM
Laura Murray
Weichert - Silver Spring, MD
Search Montgomery Co., MD for homes www.MDRealEstateOnline.com

Clearly the pendulum has swung the other way.  Many argue that the loan pendulum has swung too far.  Getting a loan is often very challenging for well qualified candidates.

Jul 26, 2012 11:38 AM
Bas Panch
SCV Home Buyer - Valencia, CA

Hi Ginny,

This is a great post, congrats on the feature! Keep up the good work as a top North Kingstown short sale agent!

Jul 26, 2012 02:09 PM
Joan Cox
House to Home, Inc. - Denver Real Estate - 720-231-6373 - Denver, CO
Denver Real Estate - Selling One Home at a Time

Ginny, isn't that the truth!     Some buyers still have no trouble, but if you are self-employed, have a break in work history it can get a bit more complicated!  Great post!

Jul 26, 2012 10:51 PM
Travis "the SOLD man" Parker; Broker/Owner
Travis Realty - Enterprise, AL
email: Travis@theSOLDman.me / cell: 334-494-7846

Having been a Business Owner for about 35 years, I can testify how tuff it is for us "Bosses" to get a loan, of ANY kind. I had a minimum wage worker for me get a loan easily at a local bank, yet the same loan officer turned me down for a similar amount. My worker was "assured" of a paycheck, whereas I was NOT.....Wait, what if I fired the guy? Where his "assurance" then!!! I, at least, had a quarter million dollars of PAID for inventory!!

This area is a haven for retired military, and ones (like me) who didn't retire, but stayed here. The retirees have their own income, but those who just stay, have to "start over" on the job length-of-time. Since many of these people actually are doing the very same job (even at the same desk), but as a civilian rather than military, it seems pretty silly to me. But, those are the rules!

Jul 26, 2012 11:10 PM
Sylvia Jonathan
Coldwell Banker Platinum Properties - Irvine, CA
Broker Associate, SFR

Great post and a well-deserved featured spot. No matter what the buyer's background is, best to prepare them for requests from the underwriter the buyer may consider unreasonable. I tell them, don't question it, just give it to them if you want the loan.

Jul 26, 2012 11:36 PM
Stu Dye
Mortgage Network, Inc. NMLS #2668 - Portland, ME
Senior Loan Officer

For the reasons George (#31) stated--  Every underwriter, from every lender, is (effectively) looking for a "PEFECT" Loan file Every time. 

Stubborn borrowers--  who are also Self-Employed--  certainly make that quest for Perfection a challenge.

Sorry for your frustrations...  Great post though.

Jul 26, 2012 11:44 PM
Karen Crowson
Coldwell Banker Residential Brokerage - Rancho Bernardo, CA
Your Agent for Change
Advising our client about this up front is paramount. I let them know that the mortgage process will e a lot of work pn their part up front, and the may be asked repeatedly for more documentation down the road. I want to make sure the buyers are willing, 'cause that's not something I can do for them. Love your last line!
Jul 26, 2012 11:45 PM
Robert & Leslie Lang
Weichert, REALTORS® - McKee Real Estate - Hawthorn Woods, IL

How about an aluminum dime?

Jul 26, 2012 11:48 PM
Jon Quist
REALTY EXECUTIVES ARIZONA TERRITORY - Tucson, AZ
Tucson's BUYERS ONLY Realtor since 1996

Requirements are becoming very strict, and lender underwriters are looking at very little items. Just had an underwriter change the approved loan amount by...$500.00. 

Jul 27, 2012 01:14 AM
Ben Yost - 303-587-4297
First Time Home Buyer, Mortgage Rates, Pre-Approval - Denver, CO
FHA, VA, Conventional - Mortgage Loans in De

Setting the right expectations up front is paramount now days.

Get ready to enter the gates of Hell....

hehe maybe not that bad, but for some close to it.

Please keep in mind Loan Officers; processors and underwriters are only foot soldiers.

We only get what we are told to by FHA; VA; FNMA; Freddie and the investors (they are the EVIL ONES)!

Good Post!

Jul 27, 2012 01:15 AM
David Krichmar
www.DaveYourMortgageGuy.com - Legend Lending - Sugar Land, TX
DaveYourMortgageGuy.com

Ginny, great job and thank you for pointing this out.  None of us enjoy having to ask for more documentation and information.  But we have to or the loan can get denied. 

Jul 27, 2012 02:10 AM
Ginny Gorman
RI Real Estate Services ~ 401-529-7849~ RI Waterfront Real Estate - North Kingstown, RI
Homes for Sale in Southern RI and beyond

I do believe that we don't just have to discuss this with a client up front but along the process especially if it takes them many months to find their dream home...how quickly things escape our minds ....thanks

Jul 27, 2012 02:22 AM
Lyn Sims
Schaumburg, IL
Real Estate Broker Retired

Ten years ago? How about 3 years ago? Things have done a complete 360 in the loan world & buyers should just get with the program.  Being 'miffed' at the intrusive process is ridiculous.  The bank has to be sure that you can make the future payments.

Jul 27, 2012 02:23 AM
Evelyn Kennedy
Alain Pinel Realtors - Alameda, CA
Alameda, Real Estate, Alameda, CA

Ginny:

No matter how often we are asked for the same document by the lender, provide it ASAP.  Things have change in the lending industry.  They have stricter requirements.  Buyers must realize it is not worthy balking about the current requirements.  If they want a loan they have to comply.

Jul 27, 2012 03:25 AM
Bob Miller
Keller Williams Cornerstone Realty - Ocala, FL
The Ocala Dream Team

Hi Ginny, we agree.  Have had several deals fail lately due to the double and triple drill down by the underwriters.

Jul 27, 2012 04:54 AM
Bob Crane
Woodland Management Service / Woodland Real Estate, KW Diversified - Stevens Point, WI
Forestland Experts! 715-204-9671

You can ask for all the documents in the world and great credit to boot, but in my opinion good character is what counts when it comes to honoring your debts when the chips are down and your mortgage turns upside down.  Far too many people who look great on paper walked away from their debts these last few years because it looked like a "sound financial decision".

Jul 27, 2012 11:27 AM
Sharon Sanchez
Ace Home Realty - Carson, CA
Your Number "1" Source For Real Estate.

I agree that changes needed to occur in the mortgage industry, but I think in some cases they've taken it too far by asking for far too much documentation.  They're not only made it hard for people with bad credit to qualify...they've made it hard for those with excellent credit also.  Hopefully things will loosen up a little real soon.

Jul 27, 2012 02:17 PM
Katerina Gasset
The Gasset Group & Get It Done For Me Virtual Services - Provo, UT
Amplify Your Real Estate & Life Dreams!

Hello Ginny,I'm loving this post! Congratulation for the feature.Just want to wish you the best on your business and stay top notch North Kingstown Short Sale Agent. 

Jul 29, 2012 02:12 AM
Nan Jester
Exit Real Estate Gallery Jacksonville Beach, FL - Jacksonville Beach, FL
Realtor, Exit Real Estate Gallery

When I first started in 1985, the process was long and laborious. Now it is just crazy ridiculous!  Besides, what bank wants to potentially tie up their money at 3.5% for 30 years?  NONE of them. It is no wonder they are so hard to deal with, but we have compensated them with bailout money quite sufficiently that they should just do what they are there to do and quit all of the shenanigans.

Aug 03, 2012 03:52 AM