BEWARE! The Worst Lender EVER to deal on Short Sales Washington Mutual-WAMU

 

01-15-2008

Wamu is no different than a regular seller.  Both of them are ignoring the reality that housing price dramatically goes down, by somebody feeding them wrong ideas.

Look at NAR website, we can find so many listings in San Gabriel valley, CA that still have price tags of housing peak.   In a zip code, there are about 55 condos listed up to $400K.  Per Ziprealty stats, there were maybe less than 2 condos sold in that zip code in Q42007 (there were more than ten times sold a year ago).  Some are REOs with a price of mid-250k, but most sellers who have about the same unit in the complex are still asking near $380K that's even higher than its peak.  I saw one condo going for a short sale.  It is very funny that the listing agent is asking a price higher than what the seller paid for a year ago.  Does the seller expect a bigger fool than him?

In the same neighborhood, some houses are asking even lower than those condos.  Just tell me how can they sell their condos?  I don't know how good advice they got from their listing agents.  All I can say is that those condos definitely wont' move since their prices are about the same as its peak time, so artificially high and scary. 

Can we stop blame Wamu while we, as real estate professionals, are doing the same sh*t trying to get a listing by giving sellers imagined price hike and unrealistic expectation.   Let me ask you guys who did BPO for WAMU?  Isn't it one of our fellow agents?  Yes, he or she is able to get $20-50 for doing an "inflated" BPO to "survive."  Its fine, eveybody deserves a living.  But, oh, no.  He or she in fact creates a hurdle to "sell" the property and "cut" income source for the profession. 

If a lender is so anxious to sell and see no result or offer coming in, he is going to give an auctioner the property on auction block.   That's exactly the situation Wells Fargo decided to let Hudson handle its three hundreds REOs in southern California next month.  Hudson gets 5% buyer premium (p.s.  Isn't it a regular commission for a REO?) and takes our income away.  To whom shall we point our fingers if our fellow agents are pleasing a seller and "discouraging" buyers from presenting an offer?  (p.s. I am one of them. Please see my recent experience at A Funny World (19): Can Agents Refuse Receiving Offers or Not?)

As I know, there are a lot of buyers who really want to buy.  But there are just TWO things stop them from buying: unreal listing price and those listing agents who are playing very high attitudes.  They "discourage" selling when they are saying: "don't give me an offer if your price is no more than.......", just as they used to do unto a buyer in the housing peak.

It is very clear that housing price has to be adjusted.  Can we stop snow falling down? Let's the market function naturally.  Why NAR has to deny the pricing trend in California?  Can we make this market adjustment period shorter, smoother, and be realistic to get things going?  There will be less pain if we can let nature heal itself. 

I beg your pardon that my wishes are so unrealistic that won't come true, with the most popular mentality of our fellow agents.  We really can't see the bottom until 2010 by the status quo.   But how can we bring in the bread to our families if there is vurtually no market in the next 2 years? 

Well, nobody cares about that.  Anybody can say: "that is your, his, her or their problem, not mine."   Nobody can do nothing about the system, right?   But please tell me, collectively, isn't it OUR problem?

 

 

4 Comments on A Funny World (20): Don't Blame Me, Blame WAMU?

JAN
15
2008

It has been a week sine I asked a listing agent to write up an offer to buy a REO on January 8.  He made it so difficult that my offer is still NOT presented yet.   There are more than 30 pages of documents required, let alone the possibility that the listing agent is not willing to supply my agent the specific Countrywide addendum. 

Look how easy I placed my offer to Hudson in minutes.  It is just as easy as a phone call away.  All I do is just like three clicks on my computer.  After my 2nd clicks, there is just ONE page contract stating the terms for the auction.  No deposit check, no minimum bid set, no hassle. 

Hudson and Marshall












Offer Submitted

Thank you for placing your bid here at Hudson and Marshall.

We have processed your request and will get in touch with you within two business days.
We have also sent an email to you as a confirmation that the request is processed. If you do not receive an email from us within 24 hours, please contact us. 

How come website auctioneers made it SO EASY to have my HUNDREDS THOUSAND Dollars parted wth me while my fellow agents are making it SO HARD?  Because we are specialists who know how to make simple stuffs complicated and they are not?

Don't blame me, folks.  I have tried to give my money to you guys.  But I am wondering whether you are in business.

 

6:21pm • #1
JAN
16
2008

An update to keep my fellow agents posted.

From my street-wise expertise, I expected that the C-21 listing agent would try to create a hurdle to his fellow agents to write up an offer. 

Well, I am ready to see the result of my judgement.  I really wish I could be wrong about him.

For your reference, here are the email exchanges so far:

Received:from [***** by yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 16 Jan 2008 10:13:57 PST
Date:Wed, 16 Jan 2008 10:13:57 -0800 (PST)
From:"Edward Tse" <et@yahoo.com>  
Subject:Re: Offer docs for *****  ***** Street
To:"May" <@customer.ziprealty.com>

Hi! May,

Sorry, I don't have a fax machine.  

Well, in the case, the best way is to re-ask B**** give you the Countrywide Addendum. Just be easy and reasonable to give him one more day to take actions for you.    

If you still have difficulty, let me know.  I will interpret that B**** is going too far as a listing agent.  He leaves me no choice but to ****************** to you TOMORROW.  

Thank you for your patience.  

ET

May @customer.ziprealty.com> wrote:

Hi Ed,

I still could not open it. Could you fax the document to me at 866-***-0***?

Sincerely,

May

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ed Tse"
To: "May"
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 7:23:59 AM (GMT-0800) America/Los_Angeles
Subject: Re: Offer docus for *****  ********** Street


Hi! May,

Thank you for telling me that B****** still didn't send you the Countrywide addendum. It doesn't surprise me since I expected that would be the case.

If you can see the content of htm1.htm without clicking on "scan and save in computer," then all you have to do are:

1) Height the content or area shown the doc in your email,
2) Move your mouse crusor on the height area and bush the right button on your mouse, When you see a dropping down, you click on "copy,"
3) Open your word processor, a new window opens up. Then you click on "edit" on your main window, a dropping down window open. Just click on "post."
4) You will see the content is now on the screen, then you have to give Buyer and Seller enough space to sign by moving and adjusting those terms, as you usually write your composition.

Please try it and let me know. Hope this will solve the problem for now.

Sorry, I don't know what happens to my computer. In the past week, some people told me that they couldn't open my attachment with "wps" format.

Regards,
ET
12:58pm • #2

Gee!

Hudson delivered more than they promised to give me a definite answer in TWO days.  It only took less than 20 hours to get the response back to me from Wells Fargo.  Sounds it just like to order a combo from McDonald or to make a deal in a flea market, right? 

They make it so EASY.  Why we make it so HARD?   So tell me how can we compete with those auction websites in this cyberspace? 

In the past 3 years, most properties I bought are from website auctions.   Recently there are three major auction websites handling REOs for lenders.  There are two major lenders with most REOs in USA.  Let's just talk about California, REDC is specialized for Countrywide, currently having Thousand California REOs online this month.   Hudson who used to perform as a high-end real estate McMansion auctioneer is recently hired by Wells Fargo and has bout 4 hundreds California REOs on its websites now.  The 3rd one has operated more than 3 years and has done a very profitable business with very little overhead as I can see. 

All of them have tried their best to "revolutionize" the real estate market on Internet.   Some websites didn't fully utilize the advantages to do it right at its outset, but are realizing their mistakes to improve themselves, such as W******* did.  Many other websites are just doing the same traditional way they used to and wish to have a different result (p.s.  To me, that's a suicide to cut their profit or commission, not a profitable business.) 

I may talk about those website operations later to share you guys what I have observed later.

 

From M*** Wed Jan 16 13:16:08 2008
X-Apparently-To:et@yahoo.com via 206.190.49.71; Wed, 16 Jan 2008 13:27:07 -0800
X-Originating-IP:[216.]
Return-Path:<@hudsonandmarshall.com>
Received:from )  yahoo.com with SMTP; Wed, 16 Jan 2008 13:27:06 -0800
Content-class:urn:content-classes:message
MIME-Version:1.0
Subject:Your Property Offers
Date:Wed, 16 Jan 2008 15:16:08 -0600
From:hudsonandmarshall.com>  

The seller appreciates your interest in the property and remains highly motivated to sell each and every property.

Unfortunately, they have decided to decline your offer at this time. You are welcome to submit a higher offer or attend the auction as scheduled.

Thank you and we look forward to working with you.

 

3:48pm • #3
JAN
19
2008

Gee! 

It is very difficult to write up an offer, isn't it?  In the past 11 days, I am still unable to present my offer through the regular channel.  Hard to believe it?  Okay, I am ready to give up.  Anyway, I can wait and in no hurry to buy now.

Am I too difficult or creative to work with as a buyer to my follow agents?  You are the judge!

Here is the update to keep my fellow agents posted: 

May <@ziprealty.com> wrote:


Hi Ed,

Per your instruction, I filled out p.1, p.3, p.5. For p.6 , cross out #12.  

Please *****  print out the Addendum and the offer documents, sign and fax them back along with a copy of $**,000 deposit check to me.

I will submit the offer to the listing agent when I receive the complete signed documents.

That is not necessary for me to meet ****.

Sincerely,

May

 

Hi! May,  

Thank you for filling in the addendum.  

At the first sentence of the addendum, right after your first writing in the offer date, did you put the right names into the Countrywide's addendum in the right place?  I couldn't believe what I saw.  Because you filled Seller's name in Buyer's place and made a Buyer as the Seller to the subject property.  Please double check them. 

Also, I requested you a few times in my emails to make a correction on the purchase price clause and fill in "See attachment A," didn't I?  But all I can see in your final copy ready to be signed and presented is that you don't mention anything about my 3 offer alternatives.  You just keep filling in one simple amount of the purchase price.  Is it all right for an agent to change a buyer's offer price and terms in a purchase agreement?  

I am wondering whether there is any particular reason for you to use just one number and not correctly put in my real offer prices and terms that I have in my mind?     

Thank you for providing your service, particularly in trying to get the addendum from the listing agent.  Did you get the addendum from him?  (p.s.  As I can see, May took an addendum for other file from her source and wiped out the old information.)

ET


A Funny World (21): Very difficult to write up an offer, isn't it?

 

8:29am • #4

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