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Are You Tired Of Working For Peanuts?

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Real Estate Broker/Owner with Tutas Towne Realty, Inc and Garden Views Realty, LLC BK607690

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Hi folks. Are you tired of working for peanuts (low co-brokes)?

In this current market, understanding how we get paid and who pays us has never been more important. Hopefully this will help.

First, "You do NOT have to show your Buyer a listing if the co-broke is less than what you are willing to work for." It is neither unethical or illegal for you to pass on showing a listing to your Buyer.

Do you believe that? Well, whether you believe it or not, it's true. BUT......and here's the qualifier.....you have to disclose this to the Buyer.

But....."Broker Bryant how do we do this without harming our Buyer? If the property is just right for my Buyer then shouldn't I show it to him no matter what the co-broke is?" Well that's a good question.

The answer is YES. Your job as a Buyer agent/broker is to find your Buyer a home that meets their needs. The commission should NOT come into play.

Do I have you confused yet? First I tell you, "you don't have to show them" then I tell you, "you must show them". What's up with that?

What's up with that is the good ole' Buyer Broker Agreement(BBA). Folks, you really only have two choices. You can show your buyer EVERY listing that meets their parameters, whether they offer x%, y%, z% or 100 bucks. You cannot eliminate any of them. OR you can discuss with your Buyer up front how you get paid and what your minimum fee is. Then put it in writing and have him sign it(BBA).

I know what quite a few of you will say, "I already show my Buyer every property regardless of the co-broke." Do you really? Do you show them FSBOs? Do show them a listing offering you $500? Are you really willing to work for that or are you kidding yourself?

In order to do the best job for your customer/client, the commission needs to be removed from the equation. The only way to do that is to discuss commission before you go to work and have the Buyer agree in writing on what you are willing to work for. Then, when you see a listing with a less than adequate co-broke, just ask the Buyer if he wants to see it. That's it. It's not that difficult and it holds you out as a true professional.

One more issue to clarify. As a REALTOR® it is against our Code Of Ethics to use a purchase offer to negotiate a higher co-broke. You can't do it.

Again you have two choices. First, you can negotiate a higher co-broke PRIOR to showing the property. Make the call. You never know.

Secondly, if you have a signed BBA, the Buyer can ask the Seller to contribute towards your agreed upon commission. Or he can just ask the Seller for a closing cost contribution. The difference between your agreed commission and the co-broke is a Buyer’s closing cost and the Seller can contribute towards it as part of the purchase agreement. Very simple.

Now go sell a house and never worry about the co-broke being too low or being reduced again. Be in charge of your own compensation.

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Comments(43)

Gail Robinson
William Raveis Real Estate - Southport, CT
CRS, GRI, e-PRO Fairfield County, CT

Bryant - I think it is the fear that if we assert ourselves and say we won't work for less than X then the buyer will just work with the next agent.  We have a right to decide at what level of commission we will work at.  I've helped buyers purchase homes that weren't on MLS so some of my buyers have had to agree to pay my commission.  It's all negotiable, but we have to have a frank discussion with our clients and many agents aren't comfortable signing a BBA, never mind negotiating their rate.  I think if we ask for something that we ourselves don't believe in, then we can't negotiate from a position of strength.  I suspect that when you are having this discussion you are confident and relaxed.  That makes a huge difference.

Aug 03, 2012 11:07 AM
Greg Nino
RE/MAX Compass - Houston, TX
Houston, Texas

This all sounds great on paper and in blogs. ::cough cough:: Truth is, most agents don't use BBA. Most are too scared to run their buyer off. Many will simply skip over the property when showing. Pile on how unethical and terrible this is, but it happens every single day.

Just like when people say they never break the law or speed.

Aug 03, 2012 11:12 AM
Joan Whitebook
BHG The Masiello Group - Nashua, NH
Consumer Focused Real Estate Services

A great post and a Buyer Agency Agreement is the way to go.  We are seeing more and more co-broke offers of only 1 single peanut!  I really don't get how that will help their seller sell the home. 

Aug 03, 2012 11:59 AM
Suzanne McLaughlin
Sabinske & Associates, Inc. (Albertville, St. Michael) - Saint Michael, MN
Sabinske & Associates, Realtor

I am with you and I have it covered in the BBA.  I don't think it will ever be an issue, but, it is signed by the buyer with their full knowledge and understanding.  I don't leave this to "chance."  Thanks for a full discosure blog post that should be Real Esate 101.

Aug 03, 2012 12:03 PM
Jan Green - Scottsdale, AZ
Value Added Service, 602-620-2699 - Scottsdale, AZ
HomeSmart Elite Group, REALTOR®, EcoBroker, GREEN

Great post and clarification of the BB agreement.  Food for thought.  I need to brush up and pull out a BB Agreement because our commission is definitely in jeoopardy these days!

Aug 03, 2012 12:18 PM
Karen Anne Stone
New Home Hunters of Fort Worth and Tarrant County - Fort Worth, TX
Fort Worth Real Estate

Bryant:  I guess every market area, and every state is different in the co-broke split as well.  Although there is no "standard" split, and everything is negotiable... I cannot remember one instance where either the co-broke office offered anything other than a 50/50 split, nor can I ever remember my offering anything other than a 50/50 split.

I am guessing that you are more aware of what is done in other markets... but seriously, are there than many markets where there is something other than a fifty/fifty split ?  Just very curious.  I had never even thought about it.

Aug 03, 2012 02:28 PM
Evelina Tsigelnitskaya
SIB Realty - Sunny Isles Beach, FL

Karen, 50/50 - it is always fair.

Just few days ago met one of the senior broker in Sunny Isles Beach - he was very frank - from each deal as a listing agent he needs to make $10,000 and my "job" get extra from buyer... (Let's do math $250,000 sales price x 6%= $15,000. How can I ask buyers pay me $5,000???????????????)

Great post, Bryant.

I am sure, there is a way to find extra few $$$, but I'd rather get a few referrals from my happy buyers!

Aug 03, 2012 02:43 PM
Katerina Gasset
The Gasset Group & Get It Done For Me Virtual Services - Provo, UT
Amplify Your Real Estate & Life Dreams!

Karen - there is a company here that is very well known in Southern Florida that charges way higher commissions but only gives out the what would seem to most agents as a 50/50 split. There are country club real estate brokers who have their offices in gated golf communities here that charge  8% - I can say this figure because it is publicly available to see in their HOA documents. They only offer 3% to the buyers agents.  

Aug 03, 2012 02:50 PM
Melissa Marro
Keller Williams First Coast Realty - The Marro Team - Orange Park, FL
Jacksonville Real Estate and Home Staging

Great advice. I doubt many buyers will want  you to show them properties if they will be stuck paying your commission in addition to their purchasing fees. 

Aug 03, 2012 03:46 PM
David O'Doherty
Clayton, NC
Clayton NC Homes, Raleigh, NC

Great read Bryant, it is pretty standard here for the Buyer agent to get 2.4% for re-sales and 2.5% for new construction, but you gotta make sure. I would show them a house if they really had to see it, but i would show them a picture of my kids first!!

I might start running credit reports on my buyers soon!!

Aug 03, 2012 08:46 PM
Bryant Tutas
Tutas Towne Realty, Inc and Garden Views Realty, LLC - Winter Garden, FL
Selling Florida one home at a time

I have not done 50/50 splits in years. As a listing broker I always take a bigger slice of the pie. It used to be though that the co-broke I offered was still more than  most even though is was not 50%. Why? Because I charged the seller more.

Now ith short sales and lenders being so hard on commission we are pretty much limted to 3%. But still I do not split 50/50.

Buyer agents have the advantage of being able to charge more for their services. So few know how. They mistakenly think this money has to come form the buyer. The reality is that the buyer can ask the seller to pay some of thier closing costs. One of those cost can be their agent. It's really quite simple. 

Here are plenty of articles on how to work with buyers and get paid.

Katerina. I belive that if an agent is working as a transaction broker then they would not be obligated by law to show all properties that met their buyer's needs. However there is nothing worse than a buyer calling you asking why you didn't show them a particular property. Then what do you do? Explain the commission was too low? Show it to them and accept the low co-broke? I'd much rather have compensation sorted out from the get go. 

 

Thanks to all for stopping by. I hope I got you thinking.

Aug 03, 2012 09:14 PM
Kathryn Maguire
GreatNorfolkHomes.com (757) 560-0881 - Chesapeake, VA
Serving Chesapeake, Norfolk, VA Beach

Luckily, in my area, the co-broke commission offered is a pretty standard amount. I do use a buyer broker agreement and that spells out that if the commission is less than the magic number in the agreement, the buyer makes it up.  THey understand and everything is communicated up front. It works very well!

Aug 03, 2012 09:35 PM
Scott Godzyk
Godzyk Real Estate Services - Manchester, NH
One of the Manchester NH's area Leading Agents

Here in my area co-brokes can vary widely, there is one large company know for taking 7% listings and offering 2% co-brokes. The old saying is treat others like you want to be treated. Although to keep up with the Jone's may offices offer a lower than 50/50 split in MLS, they do split 50/50 with everyon who splits 50/50 with them.

Aug 03, 2012 10:31 PM
Amanda Christiansen
Christiansen Group Realty (260)704-0843 - Fort Wayne, IN
Christiansen Group Realty

No.  I love peanuts.                                                                                                                                                

Aug 03, 2012 11:07 PM
Dylan Taft
Dylan Taft Broker/Owner Taft Street Realty, Inc. - Woodstock, NY
Ulster County Area Consultant

Very true and something experienced often but rarely talked about.  Thanks for sharing!  In today's challenging market buyer's agents need to take more control over their business by preparing buyers upfront and managing their expectations.  Not doing so will surely have you working harder for less money...

Aug 03, 2012 11:34 PM
Katerina Gasset
The Gasset Group & Get It Done For Me Virtual Services - Provo, UT
Amplify Your Real Estate & Life Dreams!

Bryant- you have a good point with your answer. That was my thinking too. I think that when buyers would find out, they just go buy the FSBO or go direct to the listing agent to see the lower co-broke. Then the buyers agent loses the buyer. You are right, it does not have to be that way if you use the BBA. So few agents use the BBA. Perhaps, the buyers agent is banking on the buyer not finding any properties on their own. :) Then complain when they do find a property without them. 

Aug 04, 2012 03:04 AM
Phil Leng
Retired - Kirkland, WA
Phil Leng - Retired

Hi Bryant,

We are long past the time where every agent should only be working with those who are under a BBA contract.

There is a lot of whining about the consequences of NOT having one!!!

Phil

Aug 04, 2012 10:16 PM
Jon Zolsky, Daytona Beach, FL
Daytona Condo Realty, 386-405-4408 - Daytona Beach, FL
Buy Daytona condos for heavenly good prices

Bryant - excellent clarification for confused souls out there. I work with buyers, and I know what I can do. Do I do it? That is a different question.

Luckily there is no such thing as FSBOs when people are selling condos, so this hurdle is out of equation. And so far I have not seen $500 commission, but I know my options and know what I can do if I am not happy with the commissions.

Aug 05, 2012 12:31 AM
Kathy Stoltman
Ventura, CA
RETIRED

I agree with what you have stated. In CA it is illegal to have any mention of the commission in a purchase agreement.

Aug 05, 2012 01:50 AM
Charles Stallions
Charles Stallions Real Estate Services - Pensacola, FL
850-476-4494 - Pensacola, Pace or Gulf Breeze, Fl.

My Buyers pay me regardless as I work with mostly investors but I personally think if a buyer or seller truly wants representation then they should pay for it.

Aug 05, 2012 12:19 PM