MI (Mortgage Insurance) Vs. Sub-Prime Mortgage Programs Things You Should Know

With the Mortgage Industry facing huge losses in the Foreclosure and Short Sale area's, Mortgage Insurance (Mortgage Insurance is required when you have less then 20% equity) companies have changed rates to help compensate their losses as well. Mortgage Insurance is not here to protect the consumer but to protect the investor of risk. 

I have always told my clients not to concentrate on rate but to look at their total payment. After all when they make a check out for their mortgage they are not making it out in rate but in Dollars. Below is a recent loan scenario that I ran for a client of mine.  Please keep in mind this client did not qualify for a Fannie Mae Loan or FHA because of Documentation purposes.

The client was shopping around for a Mortgage Professional and a quote on a refinance of their current Mortgage.  The person was promised a 7% rate plus because of the high Loan-to-Value they would require Mortgage Insurance.  When the client found me and ran their scenario by me I quoted them a Sub-Prime Loan at 9.25% but NO Mortgage Insurance would be required because of the rate.  You can imagine who the client chose to go with.  I did inform the client that based on the information they gave me they would not be approved for the loan at 7% because of several reasons of which I won't go into here.  To make a long story their loan was denied from the other Mortgage person and they where back with me.  Below is the loan broken down.

          Loan Amount $200,000                    Loan Amount $200,000                    Loan Amount $200,000

          30 Year Rate          7%                    30 year Rate       9.25%                   40 Year Rate      9.40%

          MI Payment         $191                    No MI                                             No MI                       

                                 $1,521                                           $1,645                                           $1,604

Now the truth is they did not qualify for the lowest rate so we can't keep going back to it. However, you can see we can get the TOTAL payment within $83 of the promised rate and payment which in this case they do qualify for.  

Now over the life of a Mortgage the $83 can add up to a lot of money and the Mortgage Insurance can be dropped after a minimum of 24 payments and proof that you have a minimum of 20% equity (in some cases 25% equity would be required).

Please note that their is NO set fee on Mortgage Insurance and it does vary with Mortgage Programs, Loan-To-Value and Risk status found from Fannie Mae.  Please speak to your Mortgage Professional to get an exact quote of what your Mortgage Insurance Payment will be.

In closing, don't be scared off when you hear the words Subprime Mortgage or a higher Interest rate.  Take a look at the whole picture including what your Mortgage Insurance payment would be.  Also, please remember that it is up to the Lender to remove the Mortgage Insurance when THEY feel you have the equity in your property.  In addition the average life of a Mortgage (in Florida) is only 4 1/2 years.  A true Mortgage Professional will go through all of your options a head of time and give you all of the information.  As always ask questions after all it is your money!

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14 Comments on MI (Mortgage Insurance) Vs. Sub-Prime Mortgage Programs Things You Should Know

JAN
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2008
I agree "not to concentrate on rate but to look at their total payment."  I always look at the total payment.  But thats because I've purchased over 10 houses in the last 10 years.  But yes, we are being set back 10 years, because of all the dishonesty that goes on.  I hope 2008 brings you trustworthy contacts.  God Bless. Lu
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Lu, I agree with you about 2008.  I just think the first half is going to be a very rocky road
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I agree with everything you said except for one.  It is not just up to the lender to remove the MI when they feel you have the needed equity in the home.  Having an appraisal done and submitting it to the lender can also remove the MI.  In your scenario, the yearly PMI payment is $2,292.  With mortgages lasting an average of 4 1/2 years and having the appraisal done at 2 years that investment of a few hundred dollars could save this customer $5,730 ($2,292 x 2.5 years) in MI payments and $2,490 ($83/mo X 2.5 years) for a total savings of $8,220 minus the appraisal fee based on your numbers.  Of course, everything depends on whether or not the borrower can even be approved for the 7% loan.
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Don, I disagree with you because I have seen it first hand where after receiving an appraisal from the client the Lender went through it and felt they where high on the numbers and cut the appraisal.  It will be necessary for a new appraisal you are right but it really ends up the end lenders hands to either accept it or not.  In addition this client  was not approved so the scenario is moot.  However, lets take this to another step I do agree with your numbers. But most clients are not looking long term they are looking right now and what the payment is going to be.  If the $83 is going to make a difference they should not buy they house because they are into much house.  Also on that note you are also not taking into consideration the $83 is on a 40 year am not a 30 so it would be a bigger difference.   I was trying to show that if you are not approved for the A Paper loan the world is not coming to an end that for a higher payment (not a crazy high payment) you can still be approved for a loan.
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Matt,

Just goes to show how rate conscious borrowers are - they're willing to believe something that is too good to be true, even when you explained that they couldn't get approved for the lower rate program.  I'm glad they came back to you.  Too bad they wasted time with the other mortgage person. 7% with "documentation issues"...hmmm

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I like my LO...I use him a lot with my own clients too. He told me everything ahead of time and last year I removed my PMI after 2 years. :) ...of course my value went up so no problem.
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Matt - Another solid post that is good info for the consumer.  Good work amigo!
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Matt,

There you go...now I think you re getting the hang of it...I read your comment on my blog and I'm glad to hear the good news.

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Cheryl, I know but sometimes people have to learn and thats ok.  Thanks for your comment

Sally, After 2 years usually it is not a problem but in Florida and the state we are in with property values in the decline it could be more difficult now

Jason, Thank you Thank you.  By the way nice feature post

Neal,  Sometimes I just need a good kick in the rear..:-) Thanks for giving me the heads up

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I KNOW I timed it all right...at the time I bought...great interest rate....and when I got the PMI off... well, just the right time.... I may still have been okay now but I did good...with the help of my LO who informed me every step of the way...

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Sally, Sounds like a great LO.  Nothing beats someone local..:-)
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I am curious as why folk are so adverse to mortgage insurance - especially now that Congress has approved the extension of it being tax deductible for awhile longer?

5:35pm • #12
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Matt,  Great info and I like the way you not only explained it, but gave examples.
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Matthew, I don't think MI is really that bad. Lets face fact for those who qualify for A Paper loan even with the MI factored in it is still a better deal. This is just to show you that if you don't qualify your payments will not go crazy just because you did not get the A paper loan.

Marc, My pleasure. Glad you liked it

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