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22 Comments on You Can't Ignore The Basic Infrustructure of a House
Great points...I see this everyday in my market. You mentioned a leak in your walls, a licensed home inspector would not have been able to detect a leak behind a wall until it got worse like you mentioned and started to cause mildew/ mold problems later on. Good thing you caught it
Wayne, it wasn't just a leak, it was an EXOTIC leak. From where it was coming, it had to be something to do with the air conditioner. It wasn't plumbing. And for a number of reasons, I knew it wasn't the roof either. I figured that it had to do with something wrong with the condensate pan which was inches away from where I saw the water.
So, I called my AC person. Then he and I got to stand there, scratching our heads, trying to figure out what on earth was causing the problem. He kept saying that it wasn't X or Y and I kept saying yes, but I saw WET WATER on the framing elements and the electrical switch and it has to be FIXED!!!!!
It turned out that it was condensate on the uninsulated part of a freon line running from the condensing unit on the roof of my two-story condo to the air-handler in the ground floor condo below me. I haven't had a chance to tell my downstairs neighbor yet, but he has newly installed insulation on his freon line.
I love this stuff.....
Judith, you bourght up some great points. Thank you for the reminder of something so basic, but often overlooked!
Sounds like another show I'll need to record on the DVR. Thanks for the article!
Monique, the gemmick the "Leave it to Brian" show has to offer is that the homeowners give him a budget and then HE makes the decision about what gets fixed in the house. The homeowners come home, expecting to see him working on updating the kitchen or a bath or some such and there he is, wide grin on his face, standing in the wreckage of what used to be their front porch. Oh Man. Oh Golly. Can you imagine? I don't know that I would be able to do that.....He has always been able to leave the home owner happy...but, I am tempted to write them and ask about the shows that don't make it to the air.....
Nice take on structural problems Judith. It is really important for homeowners to have keen eyes on problems as you have discussed, especially if they are planning to have their properties sold.
I've watched that show too. The guy always opens up places that are a big can of worms. I wondered if they pick the houses that will probably have the problems to showcase on TV.
I have not seen that show,but it sounds like there is a lot that can be learned. I think you hit the nail on the head with this quote "buyers really need to have a licensed home inspector come and check out the home they are buying. It is their job to spot situations that need to be investigated."
Judith - your use of the word infrastructure is a good word! It is seldom used in the context of a house, mostly when referring to roads and such. A house is a system, with all of it combining to make for a comfortable space. People forget that when they want to do things, not realizing that those things might negatively affect other aspects of the house.
I have not heard of the show. It sounds interesting.
A house cannot go ignored for too long or things start happening to the home.
Judith, this is a very good point. Everything starts with a solid foundation. Home inspections are an important aspect of making sure the foundation is solid.
Having a set of eyes that specialize in a field of practice is worth the price for their services. You do get what you pay for
In the '20's and '30's, wealthy people from back east would come out to the So. Cal. beaches for a couple of weeks during the summer and frequently would buy a lot and 'build' a cabana or one-room structure in order to get out of the sun for awhile without the cost of an hotel. With more visits would come more 'building', frequently with 'found' building materials or scrap from local lumber yards.
Back when I was remodeling/adding on & building custom homes in that area I would often run across the most unusual construction 'methods' you could imagine. I was asked to put a third floor (for the ocean view) on a two-story house in Redondo Beach at one time. The center main bearing wall in the house was to be the center main bearing wall for the third floor as well. Had we not torn the plaster off of one side of that wall on the (raised foundation) first floor we would not have discovered that the 'studs' were not full-length studs at all, but were cobbled-together old, full-size 2x4 'shorts' (2' - 4' long) that had been nailed together in alternating fashion without any ends actually being stacked in contact with other ends (no load-bearing). Even if these blocks were stacked, uninterrupted by spaces, it would not have been acceptable construction, but this 'method' relied on the shear value of the nails and support of the plaster entirely and the house had had a second floor on it for many, many years.
This appeared to be one of the original walls of this 'cottage' that was built before the city was incorporated and before inspection/approvals were done in that area. The house became 'grandfathered in' and, as the real estate became more valuable, was added onto and remodeled over the years. Not something a licensed home inspector would ever have occasion to detect without actually seeing inside the walls. Less lipstick and more a boob job...
Wow, John, I love these kinds of stories. Thanks for sharing.
One of the houses that I lived in as a child had been built by a college professor during WWII out of salvaged materials. When we would open up the walls of that house, we always found starange things. The strangest was the wall built out of stacked fruit boxes.
Great show and very helpful!
Hi Judith. I've not yet seen this show with Brian, but I have seen him on others and he seems like a thorough person. Not only do buyers need to have a licensed inspector review their home, I recommend sellers have an inspection when the home is listed to eliminate surprises later.
Excellent post!
Bruce
Bruce, I had to Google Bryan to find out that he had other shows. I knew there had to be others because I just couldn't imagine people blindly turning over their home improvement budget to a totally unknown TV personality.
The thing I like about Bryan is that he doesn't play the shame/blame game the way that another TV-personality home inspector does. When Bryan finds something wrong, he just wants to get it fixed. About the worst thing Bryan does is make funny faces when the home owners bungle trying to DIY something with his supervision. The point he makes is that most Home Improvement jobs requires skilled labor...kindda sortta like buying or selling a house...and DIY usually isn't all that good an idea.
That other TV home inspector makes it sound as if everyone in the business is an incompetent crook. That shame/blame finger pointing doesn't get things fixed. It just irritates me.
Judith-- thank you for bringing up this concept of the infrastructure of the home. We once ran into situation where there was leak in a pipe in wall, because someone tried to nail something to the wall, and missed the stud, hitting the pipe instead.
Oh man, Steven, it happens. Yes it does!