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The Builder Says A Washing Machine Drip Pan Doesn't Catch Leaks Anyway

Reblogger Lenn Harley
Real Estate Agent with Lenn Harley, Homefinders.com, MD & VA Homes and Real Estate 303829;0225082372

BUILDERS LIE.

MANY BUILDERS DON'T CARE WHAT HAPPENS AFTER SETTLEMENT.

WHAT IS IN THE ARCHITECHURALS FOR INSTALLATION OF THIS DRAIN SYSTEM?? 

ALL NEW HOME BUYERS NEED A PRE-DRYWALL INSPECTION BY AN INDEPENDENT HOME INSPECTOR.

HOUSE FLOODS ARE EXPENSIVE.

HOUSE FLOODS CAUSE A LOT OF DAMAGE TO AREAS BENEATH.

ONCE THE HOUSE IS BUILT, IT WILL BE TOO LATE TO INSTALL THE PLUMBING FOR A DRIP PAN.

ONCE WATER INTRUDES INTO FLOORS, WALLS, INSULATION, SUB-FLOORING, FOR EVERY AREA UNDER THAT WASHING MACHINE, IT CAN REMAIN FOR LONG PERIODS OF TIME PERMITTING THE GROWTH OF MILDEW AND MOLD.

IF THE BUILDER TOOK THIS SHORT CUT OR MADE THIS MISTAKE, WHAT OTHER DEFECTS DID THEY LEAVE??

BUILDERS LIE.

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Original content by Jay Markanich 3380-000723

Are drip pans under washing machines, or water heaters, or HVAC mechanisms on upper floors important?

In this house, the builder says a washing machine drip pan doesn't catch leaks anyway.

If not, then why are they used everywhere else?

When I see a laundry room on an upper level, and in this house it is on the middle level, I always look to see what's underneath it.

Sometimes when there is an unfinished area underneath the builder does not put a pan under a laundry room.

Does the code require it?  No.  Nor does this county.

But what about common sense?  Or good sense?  Or best practice?

There is clearly no plan for a drip pan in this laundry room.  The drywall installation was scheduled for a couple of days hence.

And what's underneath?  The full bathroom for the basement mother-in-law suite.

You are looking at the wall that will house the sink on the left and the shower/tub on the right.

So why no drip pan?

My client asked.

Here is her email telling me what the builder said:

"He said because its a green house, no drip pan was done purposefully because the water hose would decrease the energy rating.  He was saying a drip pan wouldn't do anything if there really was a leak anyways."

Excuse me for sounding obtuse.  But, WHAT?

Well, silly, silly me!  Gee, I feel badly for even mentioning it!

I'm not sure what she means by "water hose," but still, I am wondering why any "hose" (supply or drain line) would affect any energy rating.  And why are there drip pans under so many things if they "don't do anything anyways?"

Sometimes builder practices baffle me, but sometimes builder answers BAFFLE ME TOO!

Maybe because I am so obtuse I am easy to baffle!

My recommendation:  when you see something amiss or missing in new construction, see if you can find out why.  If the answer doesn't make sense, LIKE THE ONE ABOVE, continue to pursue it!  Don't say whatever should be should be.  Instead suggest that WHAT SHOULD BE, SHOULD BE!  And a washing machine drip pan SHOULD BE BEST PRACTICE!

 

 

 

Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC  

Based in Bristow, serving all of Northern Virginia

www.jaymarinspect.com


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Comments(8)

Wallace S. Gibson, CPM
Gibson Management Group, Ltd. - Charlottesville, VA
LandlordWhisperer

I've actually had to use plastic twist ties to HOLD HVAC and other pvc lines OVER the drain hole so that the basement living area is not flooded...HELLO!  Somebody will kick it if it is not SECURED

Aug 30, 2012 10:00 PM
Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

This particular house had lots of things Lenn, in addition to this.  They have gotten very cold to buyer contacts since my inspection.  The buyers say the builder was very communicative before my inspection.  Now they aren't!  Go figure!  Thanks for the reblog!

Aug 30, 2012 10:17 PM
Sussie Sutton
David Tracy Real Estate - Houston, TX
David Tracy Real Estate for Buyers & Sellers

New home builders and their subs will always short cut something or other. You have to watch, ask, and ask a third party inspector. It really does help, in my book, to appreciate the subs with donuts or something. They never get an "attaboy" from anyone. So I always make sure to appreciate them. It works on and for me!

Aug 30, 2012 10:23 PM
Lenn Harley
Lenn Harley, Homefinders.com, MD & VA Homes and Real Estate - Leesburg, VA
Real Estate Broker - Virginia & Maryland

Wallace.  Sounds like a design flaw.

Who is the builder???  In quiring minds want to know.

Sussie.  Indeed.  I "cultivate" the folks who put the house together too. 

Aug 30, 2012 10:32 PM
Clint Mckie
Desert Sun Home, commercial Inspections - Carlsbad, NM
Desert Sun Home, Comm. Inspection 1-575-706-5586

Hi Lenn,

Many builders don't think items are necessary in homes. Just because they don't want the expense and trouble of installing "best practices".

Have a good holiday weekend.

Best, Clint McKie 

Aug 30, 2012 10:52 PM
Lenn Harley
Lenn Harley, Homefinders.com, MD & VA Homes and Real Estate - Leesburg, VA
Real Estate Broker - Virginia & Maryland

Clint.  No builder who cares about the consumer after closing will install a washing machine anyplace without a flood pan.

It's fundamental.

Aug 30, 2012 10:57 PM
Nan Jester
Exit Real Estate Gallery Jacksonville Beach, FL - Jacksonville Beach, FL
Realtor, Exit Real Estate Gallery

Good reason to get a home inspector. All builders that I know are in business to make a profit and sometimes they are tempted to do the wrong thing to save a few dollars

Aug 31, 2012 12:37 AM
Lenn Harley
Lenn Harley, Homefinders.com, MD & VA Homes and Real Estate - Leesburg, VA
Real Estate Broker - Virginia & Maryland

Nan.  I don't see that as much as tradesmen or supervisors who simply get sloppy.  Quality control is better with some builders than others.

Aug 31, 2012 09:39 AM