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HOW I HANDLED A DISHONEST MORTGAGE APPLICANT

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Mortgage and Lending with Mortgage Consultant, Right Trac Financial Group, Inc. NMLS # 2709 NMLS # 6869

“How I Handled a Dishonest Mortgage Applicant”

 This was how the conversation began:

I was referred by a friend, but I don’t remember his name. Not a good sign. I have a preapproval already, but I don’t like the amount of items they want from me. Not a good sign. I am buying a property $100,000 below its real value. Not a good sign. We’re showing the purchase price $20,000 higher and the seller, will be giving me the money back, under the table. Not a good sign. We’re both going to use the same attorney. Not a good sign.

 

OK, you have offered a lot of information, but I need to ask a few questions. Can I see a copy of your preapproval?

Answer: I gave it to the seller.

What company did the preapproval come from?

 Answer: I spoke to this guy online, but don’t remember the name.

What did they ask you for, that you had a concern about?

Answer: They wanted my tax returns.

What information did you give them, that they were able to give you a preapproval?

Answer: I told them that I was self-employed and that I brought in $100,000 per year.

Can you share how much net income, that you actually paid taxes on in the last couple of years?

Answer: I have a good accountant she makes sure I don’t show any income.

Did the other company ask what you what your net was?

Answer: Why would they do that?

 

Dishonest mortgage applicantWell, you get the idea. The entire transaction was a sham. I told this individual that no one was going to do the mortgage for him. He told me that he was going back to the online person and hung up.

 

Mortgage Fraud Rises Due to Dishonest Applicants

While fraud in the financial services sector declined year-over-year from April through June, mortgage fraud increased, according to the latest report from Experian, a global information services company based in London.

 

“Over the course of the last year, we have seen mortgages continue to be targeted at a high rate,” said Nick Mothershaw, director of identity and fraud services at Experian.

Thirty-nine out of every 10,000 mortgage applications were fraudulent during the April to June period, up from 32 out of 10,000 in the same period last year, according to Experian.

Mortgage fraud far outpaced savings account fraud, which

increased from 6 out of 10,000 to 13 out of 10,000 over the year.

Mortgage fraud increased 23 percent over the quarter.

Mothershaw explained the rise in mortgage fraud stems from “more people trying to misrepresent their personal, employment and credit information on applications to get properties out of their reach.”

In fact, 24 percent of all attempted mortgage fraud cases were the result of individuals misrepresenting their credit by hiding certain information.

Additionally, 21 percent of instances of attempted fraud came from people “providing misleading employment histories,” according to Experian.

Another type of fraud on the rise, according to Mothershaw, is misrepresenting the intended use of the property, “such as applying for a regular residential mortgage on a buy-to-let property.”

Combating fraud required “thorough and efficient validation of customers’ identities and the information presented on the application form,” Mothershaw stated.

“It is vital that finance providers share comprehensive and timely information about finance applications and known frauds to help combat this common threat to the industry,” he added.

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Gita Bantwal
RE/MAX Centre Realtors - Warwick, PA
REALTOR,ABR,CRS,SRES,GRI - Bucks County & Philadel
Suggested. Thanks for the post. I hope others will learn from this post.
Aug 31, 2012 11:20 PM
Alan Kirkpatrick
Austin Texas Homes - Round Rock, TX
Alan in Austin

Great post and good information. Thanks for sharing this. 

Aug 31, 2012 11:25 PM
John & Irma Nelson
San Antonio Real Estate Broker/Agent with Get It Sold Realty - San Antonio, TX
San Antonio Real Estate Agents - San Antonio Homes

Thanks for the post!  I am dealing with a buyer right now that at the week before closing has shared with us that she got a new job in a different field and that the job she 'had' that was verifed she left earlier in the year!  And now here we are waiting for the last paystub and final income verification and we are probably 'done'!   But still working on options but still...why not tell us what is going on.

Aug 31, 2012 11:28 PM
Rob D. Shepherd
RETIRED - Florence, OR
RETIRED

I would have shown him the door. You run the risk of "no sale" or maybe having a "new career" making license plates. SUGGESTED and subscribed!

Aug 31, 2012 11:34 PM
Frank Castaldini
Compass - San Francisco, CA
Realtor - Homes for Sale in San Francisco

That is very funny.  Don't run into characters like that but then again I'm a realtor and not a loan officer.  Must be entertaining.

Aug 31, 2012 11:41 PM
Wayne Zuhl
Remax First Realty II - Cranford, NJ
The Last Name You'll Ever Need in Real Estate

Good morning Joe - Do people even listen to themselves?? I made 100,000 last year but my accountant fixed it so I didn't have to pay taxes? How's this person going back to the online person if he doesn't remember his name?

Aug 31, 2012 11:43 PM
Debbie Reynolds, C21 Platinum Properties
Platinum Properties- (931)771-9070 - Clarksville, TN
The Dedicated Clarksville TN Realtor-(931)320-6730

Joe, The warning signs were all over on this one. This was definitely someone trying to pull off a sham.

Sep 01, 2012 12:19 AM
Roger D. Mucci
Shaken...with a Twist 216.633.2092 - Euclid, OH
Lets shake things up at your home today!

Only a fool would have taken on that deal, and you're far from a fool my man!

Sep 01, 2012 01:56 AM
George Souto
George Souto NMLS #65149 FHA, CHFA, VA Mortgages - Middletown, CT
Your Connecticut Mortgage Expert

Joe, I probably would not have given him as much of my time as you so kindly did.  My response to the" I have a good accountant she makes sure I don't show and income" would have been "yep she is so good that you are not going to see a mortgage either"

I have also been seeing more reports lately about mortgage fraud, but in my opinion mortgage fraud is not up, but because of recent guidelines require Lender to report it, it give the appearance that it is rising.

Sep 01, 2012 06:43 AM
Hella Mitschke Rothwell
(831) 626-4000 - Honolulu, HI
Hawaii & California Real Estate Broker

Joe: I thought you were funning around when I first started to read the blog. This sounds like some conversation of maybe 5 or 6 years ago when there were a lot of iffy loans given out.

Sep 01, 2012 01:09 PM
Conrad Allen
Re/Max Professional Associates - Webster, MA
Webster, Ma, Realtor

Hi Joe.  The guy is 8 years too late for a loan of that type.  No docs are dead.

Sep 01, 2012 08:50 PM
Roy Kelley
Retired - Gaithersburg, MD

This kind of caller has been around for as long as I can remember.  Some agents will even show properties to them.  It is best to limit the time spent to a single phone call.

Enjoy the holiday weekend with your camera in hand.

Sep 01, 2012 10:24 PM
Joshua Zargari
MJ Decorators Workshop LI staging and home decorating - Lynbrook, NY
MJ Decorators Workshop

Good evening Joe.

A great post indeed.

Sep 02, 2012 11:00 AM
Frank Laisch
Orlando, FL
"The Insurance Guy"

Joe, I believe those days of stated, no doc loans are over. However, people do think they try to get away with it. great story & thanks for sharing

Sep 02, 2012 11:32 PM
Eileen Hsu
Douglas Elliman Real Estate - Manhattan, NY
LICENSED REAL ESTATE SALESPERSON

Definitely a timely story, something you have to unfortunately encounter. 

Sep 03, 2012 09:22 AM
Lisa Von Domek
Lisa Von Domek Team - Dallas, TX
....Experience Isn't Expensive.... It's Priceless!

Hello Joe,

Hmmm, a dishonest applicant...who'd have thought (no laugh, too sad!)

Sep 04, 2012 07:12 AM