MAX YOUR HELOC! 

My sources within the banking industry tell me that next week a number of large banks will start to freeze the Home Equity Lines of Credit on many of their borrowers.  This means if you have any available credit/balance on your credit line it will be frozen and home owner will NOT be able to use it.   I can confirm that USAA has already started this process in the state of Arizona.

 Why would banks do this?

Lets say you have a line of credit for $100,000 on your home.  At the time that you took out equity to 90% of the value of your home.  Currently you only have $30,000 on the line of credit, but the ability to take out $70,000 more at any time.  Now the bank that has your HELOC has looked at it's portfolio and sees that when they lent you the money your line was at 90% of the value , now due to declining markets they feel that this line of credit could be leveraged at 120% in some markets.  Not only is there collateral worth less, but the return on that investment is dropping.  Prime has declined 1% over the last year and will drop another .5% by the end of the month, so the rate of return on the banks investment into your property has dropped significantly.  Basically declining values and a decrease in rate of return is forcing the banks to make a decision, FREEZE ALL HELOCS.

What I know?

USAA has started doing this, Countrywide, Wells Fargo, Bank of America, Citi Bank, Chase and a long list of others will follow.  There are number of banks that have completely shut down their Home Equity division, so I guess this move should be expected. 

As I am writing this my business partner and an employee left to go their bank to cash out their HELOC.  This move by the banks make sense, so if you think you might need that line of credit you now need to transfer the money out of the HELOC and into your savings account today.

I will let you know when the official word is passed.

      Troy Schuricht

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24 Comments on Max your HELOC today, banks are going to freeze your account!!!

JAN
18
2008
Do you think this will be across the board or just in areas with declinging values?
11:10am • #1
That would explain why there has been a HUGE increase of the number of BPO's being ordered with increased fees for a quick turnaround.  It all makes sense now. 
11:15am • #2
Across the board is what I hear.
11:15am • #3

Just an FYI:

I just withdrew the equity in my HELOC and was able to open an non-traditional CD at Bank of America with an interest rate of 4.01%.

It requires a minimum balance of $5,000 but after 6 business days there are no penalties to withdraw money or to close the account. 

Obviously I have to make the interest payment on the money I withdrew from the HELOC, but at least I know that it's available to me!  PLUS, the 4.01% rate of return on the CD offsets my 6.75% rate on the HELOC.

11:54am • #4
JAN
19
2008

If people would use the equity in the right way, to accumulate wealth instead of living beyond their means, there would be no issue here. I am not convinced though that a freeze or elimination on HELOCs  by all lenders will happen. There would have to be a large forfeiture on such loans. There is one lender, a reputable one I might add (not a dot com) advertising HELOCs above 100% CLTV. I am not sure of their thinking but they must have a plan.

Another scenario that could cause this freeze is people running out to max out their HELOC on the word of a third party, like screaming fire in a full movie theater,and not able to pay them back. Just my thoughts.

http://rodney.wexlsolutions.com/

Rodney Williams

Provident Mortgage Group, LLC

352-620-2730

http://www.iprovident.net

 

Dwill
12:18pm • #5
JAN
21
2008

Rodney,

 I am not trying to create panic.  I am just sharing the information.  Knowledge and education is key.   Since I wrote this article, I can confirm that an other lender, top 20 in volume in the US, is reviewing all HELOC's.  They are looking for activity on the account and a CLTV under 90%.  If you have no activity and you are above 90%, they will be freezing these accounts.  Oh yeah.  I  forgot to mention, one of my employees had their HELOC froze last month.  No explanation, no warning, he had planned to use it to buy another investment property. USAA was the lender.   His note on the loan had language in it that they could freeze the account any time they felt that the value was declining. 

9:36am • #6
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Troy,

Not good if true...and I agree that I ahve heard nothing here in PA and I have many relationships in the lending industry.....time will tell.

9:42am • #7

Here is a link to an article from the Wall Street Journal, below is the informarion on freezing HELOC's. 

 http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120044716100193017.html

...In addition to walking away from delinquent loans, some banks are hoping to stave off future problems by reducing the amount of credit available to certain borrowers with lines of credit. Washington Mutual Inc. late last month notified about 3,200 of its customers with home-equity lines of credit that it was reducing the maximum amount they could borrow. The borrowers "have experienced an adverse change in their financial situation, as evidenced by a substantial credit-score reduction," a company memo said.

The memo added that in January, additional reviews would "result in additional decreases for borrowers with recently declining credit scores, as well as those with additional risk factors," such as declining home values.

A Washington Mutual spokeswoman says the action "was taken as part of our normal course of business" and that the company has "programs that have been in place for years that increase, decrease, block and suspend lines of credit based on a number of factors," including the borrower's payment status, credit history and property value.

Citigroup Inc.'s Citibank unit says that under the borrower's credit agreement, it is permitted to freeze home-equity advances or reduce credit limits if the home's value has declined below the original appraisal, or if it reasonably believes the borrower won't be able to make the required payment. Such adjustments are increasing in the current market environment, a company spokesman says. David Stevens, who runs the mortgage operation at Long & Foster Real Estate, based in Fairfax, Va., says he's received several calls from borrowers whose home-equity lines have been reduced because of falling property values. "It's a very prudent move, given the circumstances in the market today."

USAA Federal Savings Bank recently told one customer it was suspending his ability to borrow on his home-equity line after a review showed that the value of his home had declined since the line was originated and because of information on his credit report. "As with many other creditors, we are reviewing all home-equity lines of credit to ensure our credit exposure is commensurate with current market conditions and taking action where necessary," the bank said in a letter sent to the borrower. A USAA spokesman says he can't comment on the specific situation without more information, but adds that such reviews are done on a "case-by-case basis."

Such moves could become more common down the road. Wachovia Corp. doesn't currently make such adjustments, but "there is a reasonable probability" that it could do so in the future "based on what we're seeing in the marketplace," says Walter Davis, head of retail credit.

National City Corp. says it is closely monitoring the housing market and its credit portfolio, and may reduce the credit lines of some borrowers on a "case-by-case basis" in markets where home values have declined, a spokeswoman says.

 

 

10:24am • #8
JAN
26
2008

I wish I had known ahead of time this was going to happen.  My equity line was frozen1/21/08 without warning.  I It was a Wells Fargo account.  I was really counting on the money to be there when I needed it.  I don't know what to do now. 

 

 

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1:06pm • #9
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Can you imagine what will happen to the economy if there are numerous freezes on HELOC's???!!!  People think the economy is on shaky grounds now.  Freezes on HELOCS is not good for all of us!

I totally understand where the banks are coming from with the idea, they have to be protected.  But, they should only to do something drastic like that only on a case by case basis!

1:22pm • #10
JAN
29
2008
I think that case by case approach is fair. Those who have paid cash and have a HELOC should have access to their money. Those who have HELOCs due to value increase of the market is another issue and again should need individual approach!
ZAra
9:10pm • #11
I just recieved a letter from Countrywide yesterday, suspending my HELOC due to declining values of homes in my area.  I have a first mortgage with countrywide with a balance of $345k and a Heloc of 300k for a total 645k.  My home is 5 years old and will appraise at 1million +, thus a loan to value of less than 70%.  My payments are on auto debit and I have been a countrywide customer with various loans for over 15 years with perfect history and my current credit score per countrywide is 751.  I called Countrywide to ask what value they were using for my home,  but they had no answers only that my area had significanty declined in value. This, according to CW was determined by some National Company who probably reads all the doom & gloom around the rest of the country.  While the housing Market in the Kansas City area has been sluggish it is no comparison to most of the seriously troubled areas which had HUGE over inflated prices.

10:16pm • #12
FEB
02
2008
whew.  Glad I am with a local Credit Union.  They have no plans to freeze as per phone call.  Values are still rising here however.  I guess it pays to live in an oil/coal producing state with a surplus
Steve
10:00pm • #13
FEB
05
2008
I am seeing more and more blogs like this one...it's starting to happen!
11:03am • #14
I actually just doubled my HELOC in an area that has seen decreases since I bought. It all depends on your score I guess...
Mark
4:04pm • #15
FEB
11
2008

Beleive it or not, we recently purchased a home in Northern California for $264,000. It was a B of A forclosure. One month later we obtained a line of credit from, guess who? B of A for 100% of its new appraised value of $430,000.( We did about $10,000 worth of cosmetic improvements) Our credit score is 815.

Seems to me Banks (at least B of A) are still willing to lend to people (and very aggressively at that) that are responsible with their credit!

 

Jerry
10:35pm • #16

We are currently trying to obtain a line of credit with B of A as well. They are not willing to go above 75% LTV on a home we paid all cash for. The appraisal came in 200,000 less than what we paid for it! Our credit score is 840!

What is up with that>?

 

Sarah
10:41pm • #17
FEB
12
2008

Sarah,

 Try a smaller local bank or credit union. They seem to still lend to at least 90 and 95% to value.  Contact me if you need more help.

8:37pm • #18
FEB
13
2008

Credit score has nothing to do with it. Our credit scores are in the low 800s.  Countrywide froze our zero balance HELOC that had a line of credit to equity ratio of 40%.  Countrywide 'claims' that our home's value has declined significanlty, but when we asked for a copy of that valuation they say have no current valuation on our specific home that shows a decline.  They said that their HELOC freeze letter is 'proof' that our home's value has declined.

 So, basically it's like this - "Your home is worth less because that's what we at Countrywide think."

That will that work for borrowers, too, right? - "Countrywide received full payment on my loan because that's what I think.  And, oh yeah, this letter is proof that I payed the loan off in full."  

By the way, I live in the Midwest in an area that is still seeing a 4% year to year increase in property values. We use the HELOC to pay college tuition, fees, and expenses for our kids - then pay it back down over the next several months before the next semester's bills start rolling in.  We're screwed, now.

That's what we get for being responsible and actually paying down our debt.  If you follow the rules and behave responsibly and ethically, you're screwed.  How could I have been so stupid?

Jack
3:58pm • #19
FEB
21
2008

WOW!

 

This is scary stuff.

When the press gets a hold of this....there will be even more frustrated sellers.

Have you read this?

 

 http://timandjulieharris.com/2008/02/21/heloc-freezes-spread-fear-and-panic/

Marcy Davis
10:17pm • #20
MAR
04
2008

Here is a new wrinkle - National City is now not allowing people to refinance their 1st mortgage and keep their reduced HELOC in 2nd lien position (basically no subordinations).  I would imagine that this concept will grow and other banks will follow suit soon.

Jim

4:03pm • #21
MAR
28
2008

well, CITI just started it. Client got a letter dated for the 24th stating that as of the 21st her line of credit would basically be annihilated. Retroactive too- she had sent out a check a few days ago that will not clear! Sticky situation for her!

 

Anyone hear about any other lenders starting to do this? This was the first I had heard of it.

 

Good tip though, wish I saw this two months ago!

9:25am • #22
APR
14
2008
National City......that just happened to me! No advance warning.
Jeff
3:57pm • #23
APR
16
2008
Thanks for sharing this with us.  Please keep us posted
12:11pm • #24

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