I have slung more drywall mud in my life than I care to think about.  My messed-up shoulders will attest to that.  I am quite sure that the amount of the goop I have spread around with a trowel is in the thousands if not tens of thousands of gallons.  I have spent many hours clunking around on stilts.  In fact, I was on stilts when the wave of the 2001 Nisqually earthquake moved through the house I was working on.  When I got out of the house the telephone poles and wires were still waving.  I had gotten pretty comfortable going up and down stairs on stilts.

One of the things you learn pretty quickly about drywall mud is that it takes forever to dry if it is installed too thick---especially if the weather is humid.  Building up successive thin layers creates a much better job than trying to push-the-river with too much material.

Generally when you needed to do a heavy fill you would mix up some of the stuff with a quicker set time.  Silverset was one of my favorite types because it sanded pretty easily when dry---unlike some of the other brands that set up more like concrete.  In the early days of my drywalling carreer there was only stuff that set up so hard that you could barely sand it. 

After discovering the light-weight products, we used to call "mud-lite," life became much easier.  There was Silverset 20, Silverset 40 and Silverset 90.  The numbers referred to the number of minutes you had to work with the material before it solidified in your bucket---and several times I got to experience the reality of these numbers.

Everyone remembers fooling around with Plaster of Paris---well these fast setting joint compounds are a bit like that---just not nearly as hard when set.

I had a flash back the other day at an inspection and my shoulder understandably started to hurt.

Mud lite 

Someone could have benefited from knowing about Silverset 90.

Perhaps this was just their version of "mud-light."

 

Charles Buell, Real Estate Inspections in Seattle

 


 

 

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Gary, they put up the drywall around the bulb holder and then just mudded around it

Edward and Celia, I think you got that right

John, thanks---having fun with the shadow

Jay, and that "hook" was hot too :)

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I've seen stuff like that before.  Some more quality work by quality contractors!!  LOL.                                              

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Charles, I had to do a small dry wall repair when I had some electrical work done. The electrician cut six holes in my wall to feed a line through. He did save me the cutout pieces. It reminded me why I don't like to do drywall.

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I have seen work like this also..

What a mess

6:07am • #8
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Ahh yes...I also slung a bit of mud 30 years ago...but after 5 months of getting yelled at by a boss who left his gear on the tailgate and drove off...and blamed it on me...well, let me just say I am glad he did as I hated that job...and him? Well he is still hanging drywall...has made aton of money at it...and I still dislike the man...as do many people in our area.

And me?  I still do all my own (not family or friends) drywall hanging and repair...so at least that 5 months was still valuable to me.

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That is one ugly repair job.  You would think that they would have done something else or got someone in who knew what to do.

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Seen way to much patch work that looks like this. Just as well as left the hole then waste the time patching.

6:15am • #11
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Beautiful picture.   Nothing beats quality work by a talented (licensed) contractor. Keep 'em coming!

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Oh, man, I've been waiting for those flashbacks, too, but I don't think they're ever gonna come. Funny thing is I understand the Silverset 90 as well, having remodeled many homes myself. All I can say is I'm glad those days are over. Now I can point out vacations to the guys I hire to paint and mud.

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Nice!  What every buyer is looking for right?  Oh my you must see it all.

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Team, I am predicting homeowner :)

Michael, there is more skill to it than most people realize

Ginger, yup

Mike, my boss was smart---made me learn doing closets first :)

Kathryn, the electrical issues actually bother me more than the funky drywall.  Although I used to have a t-shirt that said "Sheetrock Kills" :)

Than, people can spend so much time doing things wrong

Donald, never a dull moment

Elizabeth, that sounds way less painful :)

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Paula, my buyer was very impressed to see the live wire sticking out of the mud :)

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Charles ~ I, too, was a "Rocker" in a former life. Looking at this picture, I can see that the mud was way too thick, as evidenced by the cracking of the mud as it dried.(Where's the mesh tape?) I also noticed the nail/screw hole to the left that appears to have only been hit once, leaving that dimple. As for quickset. I used to do new home patchwork, on the Front Range, after all the trades were finished and was in the "Blue Dot" inspection phase. We used "Sheetrock" brand 5 and 10 minute Hot Mud. It took me awhile to get accustomed to this type of material, but being able to wet sand and texture in minutes was an invaluable lesson learned. I still help some clients that need work done that have listed their home with me.

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I see that type of "3rd world construction", on a regular basis in sF.

Good post and picture.

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Charles this was painfully funny. I was in the insulation business in the late 60s, I had to hustle to stay ahead of drywallers stackers and hangers. I feel your pain. 

 

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Charles -- the summer I hung drywall -- we had others who took care of the mudding.  My wife and I did try it a couple times - but we knew to do several light runs rather than one big blob.

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Jon, Silverset has a 5 minute version too---but I always tried to be more patient than that :)

Anthony, many parts of the good ole US of A are 3rd world :)

Adrian, the things we did for a buck

Steven, for sure.  Most drywall companies cannot afford to burn out the mudders by having them hang it too :)

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Charlie, You do not like sanding fix-all... Weenie ;) I learned my lesson on that stuff too but I do not do much muddin' I suck at it. 

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Don, Fix-all----lordy---don't get me started----makes me want to go get good and plastered :)

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That is just beee youuu ti ful! A couple more layers should set it right :)

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