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What am I, a circus monkey for your entertainment?

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Real Estate Agent with 410-935-5844 Office 634480

What am I, a circus monkey for your entertainment?

A previous client referred a seller to me who wanted to list his house.

On the phone, the seller told me that the house was in very poor condition.

When I met with him at the house and saw the actual house, I thought that using a description such as "poor condition" was a statement of puffing for this dump.

Nevertheless, I gave him my opinion as to what a fair market value would be for this property.  I looked at it in two ways, one was as a house needing to be rehabbed, and two was as a potential lot for a new home, which, of course, would require the knocking down of this beauty.

My estimate was that it was worth about $75,000 for either of the options.  He could start with a slightly higher price, because it still would have easily have been the lowest priced home in the area.

Apparently, he thought that he knew much more about the values in the area than I did, even though he did not use data to back up his estimate of value like I did.  He decided that we should list it at $150,000, which we did.

We received an offer for $70,000.  Not a chance.

We received an offer for $75,000.  He was not going to give the house away.

The price was lowered to $130,000.

We received an offer for $80,000, with a feasibility contingency.  Not happening.

The price was lowered to $125,000.

Next, the price was lowered to $90,000.

We received an offer for $50,000.  You must be kidding.

We received an offer for $80,000 (as is, 25 day settlement).  He wants to counter at $90,000.

Throughout the process, when the house was priced at $150,000 and, especially, when the house was priced at $90,000, there were plenty of showings and plenty of similar offers.  The general feedback was that it needed too much work.

He did not owe money on the house and he did not even live in it.  With a leaking roof, the house was only getting worse.

Eventually, he accepted an offer and the house sold for $75,000.  Can you imagine that?

The Seller was pleased with my service and satisfied with his price.

So then I ask, if the Seller was okay with the price that I suggested in the beginning, why then did he make me struggle for several months trying to get an unachievable price?

What am I, a circus monkey for your entertainment?

Lyn Sims
Schaumburg, IL
Real Estate Broker Retired

I'm not sure what amusement that you played in this sellers game. Maybe he thought you were lying but the buyers kept saying 'no way'. Too many showings with no takers says 'no way' again.  How many months time was it between the first $75K offer & the last?  Could have closed & been back from vacation I'm sure.

Sep 29, 2012 04:00 AM
Ralph Janisch ABR CRS Broker
Janisch & Co. - Conroe, TX
Selling Northwest Houston to good people like you!
We've had clients like that. They just have to "test" the market.
Sep 29, 2012 04:11 AM
Rob D. Shepherd
RETIRED - Florence, OR
RETIRED

They have a hard time believing our data. In the end they get less than ever.

Sep 29, 2012 04:15 AM
Ron Trzcinski, 410-935-5844
410-935-5844 Office - Cockeysville, MD

Lyn,

People may find a monkey who is riding a unicycle amusing, but the monkey is probably not amused.  The captured beast only does it for survival.

I do not have to take listings like the one that I described, but there are a limited number of listings available so for my survival I sometimes will take them.

If a seller thinks that I am lying, even when I provide data to support my statements, then they have the choice to find another agent.

From week one on out to the eventual accepted contract, we received numerous offers that were in line with my estimate for price.

Either he was amused by my trying to do the impossible or was confused as to why I was not using my magic wand to get his price of twice the property's value.

 

Sep 29, 2012 04:16 AM
Ron Trzcinski, 410-935-5844
410-935-5844 Office - Cockeysville, MD

Jeanne and Ralph,

That is apparently what these clients think.  I try to tell them that the market has already been tested for them and the data which I provide are the actual results of that testing, but it just does not sink in with all of these sellers.

Sep 29, 2012 04:20 AM
Ron Trzcinski, 410-935-5844
410-935-5844 Office - Cockeysville, MD

Rob,

They have an even tougher time believeing our data in a depreciating market, which is when they will get hurt by their stubborness even more than normal.

 

Sep 29, 2012 04:23 AM
Kathryn Sparks
Zenith Realty - Baltimore, MD

Kathy,

An excellent post.  It shows the absurdity of some sellers and how they give little respect to real estate agents.

Sep 30, 2012 04:16 AM
Ron Trzcinski, 410-935-5844
410-935-5844 Office - Cockeysville, MD

Kathy,

It can make one wonder why they hire an agent in the first place.

Sep 30, 2012 04:24 AM