short saleHave you ever had a client ask you if they could participate in a short sale without missing a mortgage payment?

If so, how did you respond?

Prospective short sale sellers that are still making their mortgage payments are often curious about whether they could successfully receive short sale approval on their home without ever missing a payment.

Clearly those folks are a little different from the faction who are unemployed or underemployed and can barely make ends meet. These are borrowers facing imminent default or those out to sell their home for other reasons. Often borrowers still making their mortgage payments have a strong desire to preserve their credit.

 

So, the question is, “Can you participate in a short sale without missing a mortgage payment?”

The answer is simple (read: sarcasm): Yes, no, or maybe.

There are certain short sale lenders that will approve a short sale with no missed payments—especially for those short sale sellers facing imminent default. There are other lenders that will not. And, to even make it more confusing, remember that all of the big servicing companies (Bank of America, Chase, Wells Fargo among others) service loans for hundreds of investors—each with their own guidelines for short sale approval.

 

So, what does that mean for you and to your business? It means that even if one B of A short sale got approved with no late payments, it’s possible that the next will not. Each short sale seller’s loan is owned by a different noteholder, and it is the noteholder guidelines that control the decision-making process.

In 2012 alone, we have seen a handful of short sale sellers that have been told that their short sale will only be evaluated if the borrower is 60 days late on the mortgage: we’ve seen it at B of A, we’ve seen it at Wells Fargo, and we've seen it at IndyMac. Heck… we even received a conditional approval the other day from PNC that said that the short sale approval letter is conditioned upon the seller missing two payments. However, the negotiator did do a solid for the short sale seller; she pushed the closing date out 65 days so that now the seller can go late.

The bottom line is that there are many unknowns with short sales. Often times experienced agents and short sale processors can surmise how things will probably happen based upon their previous experience. However, with all of the continuing changes in the distressed property world, you really never know.

 

Melissa Zavala 
BROKER/REALTOR® CA DRE #01324959

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8 Comments on Thoughts on Short Sales, Late Payments, and Strategic Default

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Yes, no or maybe, GOOD ANSWER!  One of the things I tell my short sellers is that there are just some questions it is impossible to know the answers to until we get a ways down the road in the process.  Which is why the short sale addendum gives them an easy out if they choose to take it.

8:21pm • #1
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Melissa.  To date the fastest short sale we had was 73 days from listing to close of escrow and the seller had not missed a single payment.   Short sales definitely are not "one size fits all".  A closed short with current payments is an inspiration for other sellers to try and stay current (if they choose too), before they are presented with no choice.    I think the banks will let the public believe they must go delinquent to complete a short sale, when there may not be an ounce of truth in that perception.  

8:30pm • #2
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Love you picture Melissa, I read your answer but have always heard if you make your payments the banks put you on the back burner because you obviously can afford it.

5:35am • #3
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"The answer is simple (read: sarcasm): Yes, no, or maybe."

Absolutely!

I always say "It never hurts to ask," but this could hurt allot of people. The only way to be sure is to try it, meaning that you need a buyer and he's got an agent all of whom have to invest time and money so you can find out.

Bill

7:55am • #4
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Melissa - Great explanation, I too have received approval letters stating the short sale seller must miss X amount of payments

8:01am • #5
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Great points - most Realtors don't even know that BOA and other lenders have a ton of investors. Like you said one BOA loan could be a yes and another a no. So yes, no maybe is the right answer:)

 

11:46am • #6
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Great post on this topic.  Love your answer"  "Yes, no, maybe."  That answer could be used many times over in reference to short sales and foreclosures.

5:27am • #7
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Hmm Melissa, so many i have don't stop paying on their mortgage on short sales and the banks ding them with larger contributions or promissory notes...my experience here especially if they have jobs and can make the payments.

11:41am • #8

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