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The Buyer Got That Sinking Feeling, Before We Went Inside

By
Home Inspector with Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC 3380-000723

I am not a fan of greeting a buyer and then showing them bad news from the parking lot, but in this case the buyer got that sinking feeling, before we went inside.

It was the sinking stairs and stoop that caused that feeling!

To make it worse, Flipper FIXED it!

This is the view I got from my car as I pulled up to the house.

I knew from my conversation with the buyer that this was a flip.

They felt there were some things "just not right with the house."

When the buyer says that, you know you are in for a fun ride!

The house is 32 years old.

This is likely 32 years worth of settlement of the sidewalk and stoop.

It doesn't look like it happend recently, or quickly.

But even from the car I could see the other problem.

And that's the stoop near the door.

What did Flipper do?

He leveled it off!

All better now!

How did he do it?

Went to the hardware store, bought a bag of mortar and slathered a layer onto the top of the stairs and stoop.

Now it's level.

Mortar and concrete don't do well when a thin "veneer" coat is attempted.

This patch is done within the last couple of months and it is already cracking.  It's cracking everywhere.  It will not survive the winter. 

WON'T THAT LOOK CUTE AS SECTIONS COME OFF IN CHUNKS LEAVING HOLES HERE AND THERE!

My recommendation:  when the buyer, and Realtor, have that sinking feeling but want to pay for a home inspection because they really want something in a particular area and this is all there is for sale, it might just represent a bit of wheel spinning!  The front stairs and stoop were only the beginning of this journey to Wonderland!  This is one contract that maybe should not have been written.

 

 

Posted by

Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC  

Based in Bristow, serving all of Northern Virginia.

Office (703) 330-6388   Cell (703) 585-7560

www.jaymarinspect.com


Comments (29)

Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

Interestingly neither the client or realtor saw this prior to my inspection Clint.  But by the end they saw this and a whole lot more.

James - most don't do that pre-offer inspection here.  I can't remembe the last one I did.

Oct 10, 2012 10:11 PM
Sheila Anderson
Referral Group Incorporated - East Brunswick, NJ
The Real Estate Whisperer Who Listens 732-715-1133

Good morning Jay. While I read your post with interest and respect your professional judgement your conclusion is off. You don't deal with buyers who steal a home and then want to renegotiate the contract again based on inspection issues they already saw and knew about. You do your job and let the agent do theirs.

Oct 10, 2012 10:20 PM
Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

The house is sold at market price Sheila, so I am not sure they are "stealing" it.  But this particular realtor is one with whom I sometimes inspect multiple properties for his clients.  Not sure why.  I am never involved with any contract renegotiation after an inspection.

Oct 10, 2012 10:27 PM
Lenn Harley
Lenn Harley, Homefinders.com, MD & VA Homes and Real Estate - Leesburg, VA
Real Estate Broker - Virginia & Maryland

Those "fixes" are just ugly, not to mention that they don't usually last very long. 

I once owned a condo in a community where the original concrete sidewalks were "pitting".  Sadly, the condo management hired a company to coat the sidewalks with one of the quick fixes and coated all the concrete with ugly white stuff.

It cracked and peeled within months.   It was far worse than the original sidewalks with some pitting.

Oct 10, 2012 10:44 PM
Ginger Harper
Coldwell Banker Sea Coast Advantage~ Ginger Harper Real Estate Team - Southport, NC
Your Southport~Oak Island Agent~Brunswick County!

The work that was done, draws more attention to the problem.  But good that the buyer could see the problem..

Oct 11, 2012 12:39 AM
Michael Setunsky
Woodbridge, VA
Your Commercial Real Estate Link to Northern VA

Jay, it does look nice - from far away! LOL Can only imagine what the rest of this house looks like.

Oct 11, 2012 01:11 AM
Reba Haas
Team Reba of RE/MAX Metro Eastside www.TeamReba.com - Bellevue, WA
Team Reba, CDPE

Gotta love (not) how the flipper "fixed" the situation. Holy smokes I wish sometimes that states would require a competency test on these people before letting them go willy nilly on home repair and reselling. WA State does at least require flippers to become a GC if they're doing the work themselves, but it still doesn't take care of all the problems.

Oct 11, 2012 01:55 AM
Shane Barker
Amerifirst Financial, INC. - Salt Lake City, UT

Great spot, doesn't look very promising and as always, better to get the job done right the first time.

Oct 11, 2012 02:20 AM
Pamela Seley
West Coast Realty Division - Murrieta, CA
Residential Real Estate Agent serving SW RivCo CA

The fixer flipper probably thinks it looks great and what's your problem? hehe Duck tape is his best tool and if he runs out, try some masking tape. Can only imagine what's on the inside. At this point all the buyers can do is hold the sellers' feet to the fire and exit out of the contract.

Oct 11, 2012 02:24 AM
Jennifer Spanbauer Brodoway
Lethbridge Real Estate.com - Lethbridge, AB
just call jen

I wonder what the rest of the fixes look like on the inside too.

Oct 11, 2012 04:09 AM
Steven Cook
No Longer Processing Mortgages. - Tacoma, WA

Jay -- since it appears things were sinking to the right, just putting that fix on actually could make things worse, as the person has to step from angled sidewalk onto straight step (which also could be too high). 

Oct 11, 2012 04:14 AM
Randy Ostrander
Lake and Lodge Realty LLC - Big Rapids, MI
Real Estate Broker, Serving Big Rapids and West Central MI

Good evening Jay. Couple of freeze/thaw cycles will do wonders for a thin mortar cap. Yikes.

Oct 11, 2012 08:18 AM
Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

No kidding Lenn.  Concrete and mortar do not veneer!  I bet that was REALLY ugly after a while!

Ginger - the buyer saw the problem AFTER I pointed it out.

Mike - it is your basic, ugly  Dumfries townhouse, right along Route 1, behind the shopping strip mall.  You probably know where I mean!

Reba - there are so many situations that could be run into in any flip/remodel how could they possibly require a competency test for them all!?  Have you seen the TV show called "All American Handy Man" or something like that.  They are given scenarios to handle, all of which are basic, and these "best handymen" are not always able to accomplish them with competency.

Oct 11, 2012 09:05 AM
Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

Shane - the whole thing should have been removed and a new porch and stairs repoured!

Pamela - the house was a mess.  This young lady is a baker working for a big box store and does not have millions to fix things up.

Jennifer - stay tuned to a couple of future posts and you will see some more fun.

Steven - it is too high!  It is tripville.

Randy - the coating is only a couple of months old and looks like a spider web.  First couple of freezes, as you say, and boom - all done!

Oct 11, 2012 09:08 AM
Tom Arstingstall, General Contractor, Dry Rot, Water Damage Sacramento, El Dorado County - (916) 765-5366
Dry Rot and Water Damage www.tromlerconstruction.com Mobile - 916-765-5366 - Placerville, CA
General Contractor, Dry Rot and Water Damage

There's something about the "cold joints" that make these repair difficult Jay.

Oct 11, 2012 05:25 PM
Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

For sure Tom.  And the mortar can't hold up to weight or temperature variations.  There's no integrity.

Oct 11, 2012 05:41 PM
Sally K. & David L. Hanson
EXP Realty 414-525-0563 - Brookfield, WI
WI Real Estate Agents - Luxury - Divorce

yicks....sometmes people want verification of their own intuition...though in this case...the obvious is...obvious and saving the ink and moving on unless t was the deal of a lifetime and not FHA financed...

Oct 11, 2012 06:22 PM
Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

That might be the case here S&D.  This is a single lady who was really hoping that what she was thinking wasn't true.  Gut instinct in this case was true!

Oct 11, 2012 06:53 PM
James Quarello
JRV Home Inspection Services, LLC - Wallingford, CT
Connecticut Home Inspector

The vast construction knowledge of Flipper is truly amazing. I'm sure you were amazed for the whole inspection. 

Oct 12, 2012 11:22 PM
Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

It was fun Jim!  The kitchen sink was classic.  Almost as classic as a pyramid base under a deck post.

Oct 12, 2012 11:38 PM