Community Etiquette- From Good to Bad

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I almost have to laugh, because I had written this article last week while traveling and today it seems more appropriate then ever. When confronted by the numerous times I've encountered various mindsets of individuals on multiple boards, forums, wikis, communities, and blogs - how does one go about networking on a consistent basis without stepping on a few toes? The answer is simple, you don't.

In real life, I am often referred to as one of the friendliest people you can know. I can talk to anyone on almost any topic, ranging from teen age crisis and legal issues, to politics and business taxes. I rarely (if ever) find someone in the real world that I cannot form a positive relationship with.  Yet without failure, there will occasionally be a personality that seems to beg of being inappropriate or rude. This could be the intoxicated wanderer at an evening get together or it could be a professional who is out of their element. It could be someone you have to work with, or someone you will never see again.

Online networking and conversation holds some of these same real world elements true, but it also creates some amazingly short interactions that are seemingly drawn from a bad day of work or personal episode. Just when you've mastered some of the basic skills for interacting with the masses online, a new contributor comes along and breaks the mold of consistency and friendly nature. 

Online communities can be amazing tools for making connections for business and personal interests, yet it can also be a detriment to how you are perceived. I'll take a moment to share some of the tips that I have published over the years for interacting in a potentially volatile environment. This used to be one of my favorite presentations for online communities, as most individuals in the corporate world seem to apply corporate etiquette to blogging. 

  • Understand the culture and the community: Every site and community has a different flavor. Myspace is different than FaceBook, Yahoo 360 different than Linked-In. They not only have different technical platforms, they have different personalities on both sides of the controls. One moment you may be having a chat about the latest gadget and political joke on site A, and the other moment you will find insult on answering questions or discussing personal topics.
  • Develop who you are: When you get online, don't try to fake it. There are plenty of people who recognize you from other social circles and environments. What you say on one will be noticed on the other. It may not be written in the text on screen, but the wandering reader will take note of places you have long forgotten.
  • Don't be pushy: If you have an alpha personality or stubborn streak, sit back and enjoy a cup of coffee. The social cues given in the online realm are far less telling than the ones you may receive in the real world.
  • Do not take offense: People often get grumpy for all the wrong reasons. In a written environment, bloggers often fall prey to a few words that flavor an entire relationship. One brief statement does not make a relationship, nor does it create one. A relationship is made by a consistent level of interaction over a period of time.
  • Do what you say: When you write down a course of action, do it. There is nothing more damaging in the business world (and relationships of all kinds) than declaring a list of actions items and then failing to carry through on them. If you need to change the course of action, declare the intent to do so. The world of online communities presents us with the challenge of never knowing who may be reading our ideas, and a professional will carry through on statements knowing that there may be individuals that are acting upon it.
  • Do not abuse the community: We all hate spammers or unsolicited sales calls. Members of a community also dislike it when the culture of the community is being abused for other motives. When joining a new group, the purpose of joining should be to participate in the conversation of the group. It should not be to pursue personal agendas, until it is known whether or not those personal goals fit in with the culture of the community.
  • Treat people like you were having a face to face meeting: So many people become rude or negative online when they would never do so in the real world. There is a tendency in new bloggers (or any online forum) to make hasty statements or jump to conclusions about being treated unfairly. They lack the experience or the understanding of the community environment, and blunder into social situations simply because they don't know any better. This could be easily compared to someone walking into a courtroom for the first time and failing to pay the judge the appropriate respect.
  • Offer your assistance: With any sizable group, there will be varying levels of skills and experience through-out it. Everyone will have a strength and everyone will have a weakness. Most of us will know what our strengths are, while few of us will know our weakness. Offer assistance, friendly guidance, and helpful mentoring to your fellow community members. If they react poorly, give them room and step back. Not everyone takes kindly to having someone know more than they do in a specific field.
  • Remember "do unto others" and "what goes around, comes around": Online communities are chalk full of karmic balance. Both good and bad things come back to you months and years after the fact. Even when someone treats you poorly, take a moment to gather your thoughts, provide a respectful exit, and move on. You will find that being the better person in an online conflict is far better than being known as a negative personality.
  • If you do step across someone's line, apologize: Treat everyone online as if you are dealing with someone of another nationality. Do not take your preconceptions into the conversation. If they say they are offended, offer an apology and move on. Do not attempt to move past a simple apology, if someone chooses to be offended with a simple interaction there is often little you can do to change their opinion. Accept that some individuals either have thin-skin or are seeking conflict. 

The lessons of online community are simple. Give people the benefit of the doubt and don't jump to conclusions about who they are or what they are saying. If you don't understand a question or comment, ask for clarification and move on. There a millions of people to interact with on the net and in real life, making a decision from the beginning to be a positive influence on the people around you will earn you the respect of other individual and of the community. 

If all else fails, enjoy a cup of coffee: There are bigger issues in life. Don't fret one bad apple. Every community is full of friendly members who are seeking your expertise and knowledge. Share yourself with other like-minded souls and enjoy another conversation tomorrow. 

 
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52 Comments on Community Etiquette- From Good to Bad

Most people in sales-related industries have heard that words only account for 7% of communication. The other 93% are tonality (38%) and body language (55%). That's what makes online networking and communities tricky. The flat medium can sometimes make it difficult to clearly understand the author's intent. As easily as the web brings us together, it can quickly take away the human element when all we see is the monitor in front of us.

Thanks for putting these guidelines together so eloquently, Barry. We can all use them at one time or another. Just be sure not to overdo it on the coffee! :)

01/15/2007 02:23 AM by John Novak - REALTOR®, Las Vegas and Henderson, NV (Keller Williams Realty The Marketplace)


Barry... maybe you should be suggesting a cup of decaf coffee... good stuff.  I mean your writing, not decaf coffee.  Thanks.

01/15/2007 03:17 AM by Maureen McCabe - Central Ohio real estate (Real Living HER)


Very well put, Barry, From intentions to actions to reactions. It's tougher to really understand when you don't see or hear the person blogging. You might even suggest coffee with the Old Codgers.

01/15/2007 04:58 AM by Sharon Simms St Pete Florida CRS CIPS CLHMS (RE/MAX Metro)


Good Post Barry- A how to play well with others guide- indeed.  I'll take mine with sugar and milk please!

01/15/2007 08:33 AM by Allison Stewart REALTOR ®St. Cloud Florida (Florida Pines Realty, Inc)


Barry, excellent pointers. There are many intangible benefits to a community like AR. Sometimes it takes a little time and patience to see and understand what they are. Blogging and interacting online is NOT a black and white endeavor. It takes awhile to get into the flow and to be able to determine who your audience is. Really good stuff Barry, thanks for sharing. 

01/15/2007 11:11 AM by Bryant Tutas-Tutas Towne Realty, Inc


Barry, this one is a keeper!  Almost everyone here is new to this kind of thing.  

01/15/2007 11:13 AM by Maureen Francis & Dmitry Koublitsky - Metro Detroit


Now if everybody could play by these rules, online communication and communication in general would be a breeze!

01/15/2007 11:14 AM by Colorado Springs Real Estate (Prudential Professional Realtors)


A truly excellent and very informative post, Barry.  Thanks for sharing.  If you are a member of AR's newbie group, it definitely belongs there, too!  Great pointers.

01/15/2007 11:15 AM by South Florida Real Estate • Leanne Paynter (HomesCo.com)


Thank you for putting it so nicely!  We're all in this together although it doesn't feel that way at times. =)

01/15/2007 11:18 AM by Leigh Brown Charlotte NC Broker/Owner (RE/MAX Signature Properties)


Well said Barry and quite honestly,  I will find myself re-reading something numerous times to make sure I didn't just take it wrong and then usually apologize, in case I did somehow mis-read it or offend them in some way.   

The movie "Secret" really discusses the laws of attraction and actual mode of "shifting your emotions". One of their examples were...

You stubbed your toe really hard one morning getting out of bed, you scream explicity to the pain that is now resonating in your foot and head.  You mumbled all the way to the bathroom and keep looking at your toe, only to put the toothpaste on your toothbrush and then drop it on your brand new rug.  You're still reeling over the toe injury and now dirty carpet, when you bump your head coming out the shower...spiraling ever so slowly downward from there. 

With just a "shift of emotion in the moment" after stubbing your toe, and turning your attitude into one of being productive and positive by seeing the goal of the day, believing and feeling it.  Everything changes, put it to test one day. 

Ok, maybe that didn't make the best sense in regards to this blog but the bottom line: Read a blog and if you feel negative or think they are being negative, give them benefit of doubt, turn it into something positive or aplogize and move on (let it go) .  The only person that can change your day, your moment or your future is you!  Surround yourself with people of like energy and you will all be successful. Don't let people drain you of you energy. Put all youself into the people that you feed off in a positive way.

Mushy, metaphysical, spirtual...however you want to take it;  life is what you make of it or you can sit around and let it make something of you, either way, you're still you...do you like what you have become?  If not, change it, only you can do that or allow it to be done! 

Barry, it seems that you are on the right path and I hope I can also keep the same attitude as you towards negative blogging, it's not always easy.  But I think I take de-caf if you don't mind, coffee will just make it worse for me!!!

01/15/2007 11:19 AM by Lisa Forss (Coldwell Banker/1st Forss Realty Group)


Great guidelines, Barrry.  It's so much easier to get your point across face to face rather than across the web.  I agree that it should be decaf, too ;)

01/15/2007 11:24 AM by Jim & Maria Hart ~ Charleston, SC Real Estate (Agent Owned Realty)


Well thought out.  I suggest you also post this article in the Active Rain Newbies Group.

01/15/2007 11:50 AM by Rich Schiffer, REALTOR, e-PRO (Weichert, Realtors)


Excellent advice, Barry.  Blogging etiquette will be to2007 what cell phone etiquette was to 1999.  I just hope the former initiative is more successful than the latter.

01/15/2007 11:53 AM by America's #1 Mortgage Broker


One thing I would add is that humor and sarcasm very rarely translate in the written word. The reader tends to impress their own feelings and mood onto what they read, wherein sarcastic or dry humor "READS" with a literal interpretation.

If your friends tell you that you have a dry sense of humor or are sarcastic, be prepared to have people "NOT GET" what you are talking about and instead "GET PEEVED" at what you blog.

Just my $.02

Ken Stampe - Bank of America

01/15/2007 12:03 PM by Ken Stampe | Wells Fargo | Mortgage Loan Dallas .com (Ken Stampe | Wells Fargo Home Mortgage))


good points and good information...

 

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01/15/2007 12:50 PM by Eagle Realty


Very good post Barry.  I think I will read it every time before a session on Active Rain. 

Ken, you are right about the sarcasm and dry sense of humor. I think that is where I have a problem.  It's a real skill to master.  I hope to improve in the future.

To me, it is very entertaining to try to point out the humor in things or the irony of a situation.  I love to take an opposing side of the issue but find that it does probably get me negative points with the majority.

01/15/2007 01:02 PM by Tim Maitski ~ The Atlanta Agent With Nuts (RE/MAX Greater Atlanta)


What Ken S. said.  The text on an email, forum or blog in black and white come across very strong and often rough. 

Flaming was really bad a few years ago, because few knew how to deliver diplomatically and fewer were willing to give some leaway.  I had an email from a customer whom I could envision as frothing at the mouth.  Fortunately before I shot back in self-defense, I look again --

  • recalled how something can continue to feel like flaming, especially when upset
  • realized I didn't have the slightest idea what she was talking about (now I could respond with a question and
  • offer her a customer service solution that made her pretty darn happy, especially when she realized what she was so hot about was really dumb and I hadn't rubbed her nose in it.

I have been in some settings where everything is texted, not immediately as with messaging, there are several particpants, and VIGOROUS disagreement, yet all delivered with civility and courtesy so that a project could be successfully accomplished.  One could feel the flames licking around the base, but all were being mature and dedicated to the project. 

I thought it was all now universally learned, but I am in some forum/chats -- when we chat it gets 'rough', but they also disappear when we close the chat; when someone took the sharp repartee into a forum where comments hang around, it came close to hurting feelings.  

It is not 'passive' to preface some comments, particularly tart ones, with the acknowledgement that this is MY opinion and I recognize and respect the point that there are other opinions.   

It is good to remember that the internet is like sound -- once we press SEND, it can on forever, slicing and dicing and seldom worth the bloodshed.  Plus, try to be kind to support people.....they are on the receiving end of panic, meltdown and rage all too often. 

JudyAnn Lorenz, BAR JD

 

01/15/2007 01:14 PM by JudyAnn Lorenz, PREVA (Bar JD Communications)


Thanks for the commentary everyone. I think John highlights it- the written word is lacking so many expressions that we use to gauge people on. I do agree with Ken too, that humor (and a lot of other things) are often taken the wrong way by people. 

I learned this lesson a long time ago (the hard way), as I am a witty and sarcastic person in real life with my friends (which probably explains my brief venture into stand-up comedy.)

I rarely take things in a negative tone when I am reading a blog. Someone pretty much has to flat out say "I hate you" before I start reading negative connotations into it. Yet having had the presentation experience of my past, I am often reminded by people how often they misinterpret something I said.  

On the humor note- I can't recommend decaf. I'm sorry, I just can't do it. ;)

01/15/2007 01:17 PM by Barry Hurd (123 Social Media)


How do you keep coffee spills out of your laptop?

Nice post, thanks.

01/15/2007 01:40 PM by Chris Drayer (FloorPlanOnline)


Barry :: Nicely done. I don think there is some confusion in places as to what ActiveRain really is and what it's goals are, though it is clearly stated on their main page. 

01/15/2007 01:53 PM by Jeff Turner (Real Estate Shows)


Barry, excellent post, you provided us with very clear guidelines for better communication. I have to keep on reminding myself that this is a medium where words are read without the benefit of voice inflections or facial expressions, so words can easily be misinterpreted.  

01/15/2007 02:49 PM by Griselda Tealdo-Perez, REALTOR®, e-Pro, GRI, TRC (Coldwell Banker Real Estate)


I agree with what John Novak said.  Communication isn't just words.  We use inflections and a host of other things to verbally communicate.  Sometimes I will write something one way (with my accustomed wry humor) and it just sounds awefully sarcastic.  In most cases I notice it and moderate it first, but there have been times...

01/15/2007 02:50 PM by Chris Tesch College Station, Texas Real Estate (RE/MAX Bryan College Station)


nice article.  man if we could all just follow that last piece of advice.  my favorite coffee shop in the entire raleigh/cary north carolina area (in apex) is pheasant creek coffee.  if anyone ever comes to the triangle, give me a shout and i will buy you your favorite.

Best Espresso Shot

01/15/2007 03:18 PM by Rama Polefka (Keller Williams)


This issue was addressed ratherly nicely; and hopefully we will all apply the suggestions.

01/15/2007 03:31 PM by Jennifer Fivelsdal,ABR,GRI,SRES (Keller Williams Realty)


I guess I have nothing else to add that hasn't already been said. Terrific post chock full of great suggestions, Barry. And being a coffee snob (yep, I order my monthyl supply of whoe beans from Peet's in Berkeley, CA, air shipped) I appreciated your coffee comments. Thanks again!

Jeff

01/15/2007 03:33 PM by Jeff Dowler ~ Carlsbad Real Estate (RE/MAX Associates)


Barry,

Thanks for the post. This is very good information. Can I suggest the newbie group as a posting venue

01/15/2007 03:34 PM by William Collins, Broker Associate (ERA Queen City Realty)


Great points, Barry.  I guess it really comes down to the Golden Rule (just like everything else in life).  I'd like others to give me the benefit of the doubt as well as at least listen to my ideas, so I try to do the same.

Though to Lisa's point above, some days you do stub your toe and a host of other things that make you just slightly off-kilter from your normal personality.  My new Golden Rule (subsection A) is that if I'm having one of those days it is a "read only" day with lots of coffee! 

01/15/2007 03:38 PM by Betsy Talbot (DelegateNow, Inc.)


LoL, okay! I broke. I posted this to the new users group. ;)

One of the things I have noted across many forums over the years are the number of funny and often sad "wars" that were started for all the wrong reasons. I'm hoping that more contributors who get this type of message and understand the blogging media will create enjoyable and productive places to visit, rather than scare off some very brilliant people.

Rama gets bonus points for including a coffee photo in her comments. (Now I just have to plan a trip to North Carolina to get my coffee!)

01/15/2007 04:17 PM by Barry Hurd (123 Social Media)


Great post! It must of taken you awhile to put this together!!

01/15/2007 05:00 PM by Lucky Lang, II (Personal Investor)


Yup, I've seen a little bit of this around the rain lately too!  Good pointers, hopefully we will all take heed.

01/15/2007 05:17 PM by joanne Douglas (Terrie O'Connor Realtors)


Barry...

One of the things I have discovered in my short life span as a Blogger and professional commentor...Is to never take things too seriously on a network Blogging site like this one.

I have seen many instances where people take themselves and others so seriously that they literally feed off each other's negativity. That is not a very pretty sight :)

I try to keep my Blogging and commenting fun. If I want to work I'll close my laptop and go work :)

 

01/15/2007 05:18 PM by "The Lovely Wife"...Broker Bryant's Wife... (Co-Owner Tutas Towne Realty, Inc.)


Barry -- well said, I have bookmarked this for future reference...

01/15/2007 05:30 PM by Western New York Home Sales | Colleen Kulikowski (Hunt Real Estate ERA)


"Rama gets bonus points for including a coffee photo in her comments. (Now I just have to plan a trip to North Carolina to get my coffee!) "
Uh...Now, this here Rama, you see, he's actually a Feller, as in "His" coffee photo.

Rama Polefka and He's serious about His coffee. I betcha He can tell you why you don't want to be bruising your java. 

 

01/15/2007 06:08 PM by Mike Jaquish Keller Williams Realty, Cary, NC (Keller Williams Realty)


If you do step across someone's line, apologize----

This is something that has helped me out over the past years both on and offline.  It is often tough to say I'm sorry but it can make a big difference for you and the other person.  Saying that simple phrase is a big stress releaser.

01/15/2007 06:58 PM by Chad Blessinger (FC Tucker Kerstiens Realty)


Good stuff Barry.  It's important for everyone to be reminded that the AR network is a "community" and needs to have rules for everyone to be aware of.  Thanks for another great post.

 

Lisa

01/15/2007 08:00 PM by Pascack Valley Real Estate>> Lisa and Robert Hammerstein (Coldwell Banker)


Barry - this has to be a MUST READ for all bloggers.  Great rules to follow, and to the point.  I always love your stuff - and BTW - would get along just fine in person too with or without the coffee

01/15/2007 09:39 PM by Rick & Ines - Miami Shores Real Estate (Coldwell Banker)


Wow!  This is awesome.  This should be a must read...and maybe re-named along the lines of the ABC's of Internet Community Etiquette????

01/15/2007 10:02 PM by Kaushik Sirkar (Call Realty, Inc.)


I really appreciated this post.  I wish I'd have read it when I first started blogging; it would have saved me a little heartache for sure.  I'm much too sensitive :)

My parents always taught me that if you offended someone, you should always apologize for that; even if they were in the wrong.  I always try to think what the most 'gracious' thing to do would be and TRY to do that (but my big mouth usually still gets in the way)

 

01/16/2007 12:21 AM by Jessica Hughes (Ambiance Staging)


Barry - you hit the target on this one. In real life as well a cyber life there is always room for a little conflict and/or misunderstanding. I think your article should be required reading for new members of ActiveRain.
Keep up the good work!

01/16/2007 07:04 AM by United Country Rick Irving Realty


Seems like there is always something bizarre around the corner when talking about people.  Good post and good timing--maybe we can all be a little nicer this year.

01/16/2007 04:09 PM by


Hi Barry - just to let you know your post was featured in the week in review:

Active Rain - Week in Review 01/15/07 to 01/21/07

01/22/2007 12:31 PM by Rick & Ines - Miami Shores Real Estate (Coldwell Banker)


Lessons here for many on AR and now that you are featured in the week in review hopefully more will get a chance to see it!

01/22/2007 05:57 PM by Teri Isner GRI, CRS, CIPS (Keller Williams Celebration)


Lola's featured post directed me here and a few months after the fact but... this is great advice for any Newbie or any other blogger who hasn't quite caught on.  I hope you don't mind if I print it out:)

03/31/2007 06:50 AM by Ed Vogt, Grandville, MI Audu Real Estate (Audu Real Estate)


Lola's brought me here also. You give such sound advice in such an articulate, easy-to-follow way. You were featured, rightly so, and now highlighted by Lola. Your message is worth repeating for newcomers, for those who missed it the first time, aand as a reminder for those who didn't.

Thank you!

04/01/2007 06:32 PM by Eloise Gift, New Mexico Real Estate (Eloise Gift-Keller Williams)


An annoying problem now is those people who are using html in their titles to make them in color, bold, and or italic.  That makes for a very mixed up array in the blog lists.  This should be discouraged.  If I see any of these on the groups I founded I will delete them.

04/20/2007 06:41 PM by Mike Stankewich, MBA, e-PRO - ZipRealty, Inc. (ZipRealty, Inc.)


This is simply a fantastic post - I just referenced it in my post on the Zillow Blog: http://www.zillowblog.com/zillow_blog/2007/05/how_to_producti.html

05/01/2007 10:16 PM by Drew Meyers (Zillow)


I just followed a link from Woo Hoo Sally and found this post. It's very good. Thank you!

05/31/2007 04:40 PM by Lisa Hill (Daytona Beach REALTOR®) (Adams Cameron and Company)


I am a Active Rain Newbee and found this blog to be very interesting and helpful.  I will keep a copy of it to refer to again. It's a great reminder to stay true to ourselves and don't sweat the small stuff.

Thanks, Terrie

03/20/2008 11:44 AM by Terrie Leighton (Ferrari-Lund Real Estate)


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