SEO Spider I have recently encountered a glut of bloggers that have taken some very bad advice in the form of reciprocal linking (this one seems to be repackaged monthly as a comment scheme, blogroll or some other hair-brained idea), too many links on a homepage, more than one H1 tag on a single page, etc.  The results have been devastating: they have lost their coveted positions on the first page of Google for prime keywords and been slapped by the last PageRank update (Jan 11) with a PR 0.  So, this is my social service post to help you identify bad SEO adivice when you hear it! (if you want to learn more about about bad SEO advice- tune into my Tuesday WebEx- link is at the bottom of this post)

There are a lot of sources for SEO advice in the real estate blogosphere, however, you need look at each person doling out that advice.  In the same way you wouldn't get parenting advice from Britney Spears, you don't want SEO advice from a self proclaimed guru that can't rank for their own keywords or can't pass simple SEO analysis.  Look past the fact that a person says they are an SEO expert and look at their ability to successful put multiple websites or blogs on the first page of Google for short tail keywords in difficult markets. 

Who should you trust?

Rand Fishkin of SEOmoz

Aaron Wall of SEOBook

Stephen Spencer of Net Concepts

Matt Cutts of Google

Andy Beal

Michael Gray of GrayWolf SEO Blog

Basically, people that do SEO as a living not a hobby. 

What kind of advice is BAD advice?

Most of the bad SEO advice I have seen lately, looks like it came straight out of 1999: reciprocal linking, large linkage on homepages, increasing the number of pages through open forums, keyword spamming, etc.  What may have worked in 1999 will get you shot through the heart in 2008.  So, listen up kiddies, take notes and DOT NOT FOLLOW the following advice:



1. Change your permalink or url structures for better SEO

When you hear, "hey, this is a better way to structure your urls/permalinks" don't go changing them.  You are indexed based on your existing url structure, so if you change it- you are breaking your links in Google's index.  Irrevocably changing permalink structure on an established site from http://www.sitename/category-name/post-title to  http://www.sitename/date/post-title  will throw your site out of the search engines for a period of time until they are able to fully re-index you. Remember,  Google isn't psychic- you cannot change the urls of your posts and think Google will be able to figure out where all those posts went unless you use a self healing 301 redirect feature. 

Read also: Permalinks explained

2. Name categories anything you want

When you hear, "Don't worry about how you name your categories," ignore it.  Be specific- write them for users and search engines.  Make them keyword rich and easily identifiable ESPECIALLY if your permalink structure uses the category name in your url.

3. Posting to multiple categories causes duplicate content and you'll get banned

When you hear someone telling WordPress users that posting to multiple categories will cause duplicate content (the implication is you will be banned from Google), use some logic:  There are times when this can happen but your little blog with a handful (hundreds +) of posts isn't even a blip on the radar to Google, so if you think you will get banned for duplicating a page here or there- don't be so egotistical, they don't care.  Duplicate content filters are looking for colossal offenders like spam sites that mirror thousands of pages across domains. Or, you can solve the whole problem by not passing category or parameter info in the url... wow, there is a simple fix to the whole supposed problem, imagine that.

Read also: Duplicate content filters explained

4. Gang commenting, reciprocal linking and the like is a good way to build backlinks

When you hear someone advocating a group of bloggers to form a gang and comment on each others posts with keyword rich text or link to one another in blogrolls, STEER CLEAR OF IT.  Jay Thompson covered this one extensively.  This is best compared to Revenge of the Nerds.  A whole bunch of PageRank 0s commenting on each other's posts with each others keywords to boost relevancy is pointless.  It's not hard to imagine that Google is able to look and say look all these links coming and going from the same places - sure looks like reciprocal linking to me.  FYI: the days of commenting for backlinks are over- everyone puts no-follow tags in their comments now. The keyword usage was ridiculous as it just looked like spam to both Google and users. There is a point where the density gets so high, Google just considers your page irrelevant. 

Read also: Google slaps real estate blogs for reciprocal linking

Read also: Does Google hate your link love?

5. Large blogrolls and more than 120 links on your homepage is not bad for SEO

Telling the entire blogosphere, a large blogroll in your sidebar is fine or more than 120 links on your home page is acceptable.  Go ask some of the bloggers struck down in the blaze of glory that was Google's last two PageRank Updates.  You bloat your page past the 120 link threshold and there is a good chance you will be penalized because you look like a link farm to Google.

Read also: Google hates your blogroll

6. Use a lot of chicklets to show how popular you are and help social networking

20, 30, 40 useless chicklets and advertising in your footer is totally cool. This won't look like link farming to Google at all.  One of the key ways of gaining trust with Google is gaining inbound links not doling out your links (that probably have little value unless you are a PR5 or above) to others.  Don't waste your links.  Use them wisely and with discrimination.  You only have 120, so use them for navigation or give them to sites your visitors will find useful.  My personal opinion is many chicklets people put on their blogs are only there to stroke the bloggers ego.  Wow, I'm #1 on such and such blog directory- does the consumer you are trying to convert care about that?

7. An un-moderated forum will help you increase the number of indexed pages in Google so your site will climb the SERPs faster

You know, this strategy probably will help you get more indexed pages, help you generate more traffic and show up higher in the SERPs... for terms related to porn and prescription medication! Putting an un-moderated forum on a blog to increase the number of indexed pages is just irresponsible.  If you think you can stomach the results of this faux pas, click the link below.

Read also: Un-moderated forum makes me blush

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How to identify an SEO impostor

If your source for SEO advice gives one pieces of advice then contradicts it a month later, your SEO might be an impostor

If they make money selling houses and not technology services, your SEO might be an impostor

If your expert's examples of SEO are only related to their website with no proven ability to replicate those results on other websites, your SEO might be an impostor

If your expert's examples of SEO are Stupid Examples and Observations,  your SEO might be an impostor

If your SEO expert tells you Google is bad and Google just doesn't understand how brilliant your website is, your SEO might be an imposter

If you follow your expert's advice and your website or blog loses PageRank or search engine positioning, your SEO might be an impostor

If you can't find your website with Google, two hands, a flashlight, a GPS and the URL, your SEO might be an impostor

If your SEO gives you advice but cannot explain (from a technical perspective) why they believe that advice will benefit you, your SEO might be an impostor

How to avoid BAD SEO ADVICE

Always ask why the person giving you advice is recommending it and before you implement it, make sure that a respected authority in the SEO word seconds it by doing a search on Google.

 

Week of Jan 28: Blog and SEO Webinar Training Schedule

Please come early to the WebEx's they fill up quickly and only allow 20 people in at one time. 

Social Networking

Monday:  2 PM EST: Blogging :: How to social network for traffic and leads


Join me for a 30 minute class on how you can use social network sites like Digg, Technorati, ActiveRain, LinkedIn, MyBlogLog, etc to build your business and blog. Bring your questions and hopefully I can answer them.

Recommended course reading: How to generate leads from a real estate blog

You have been invited to join a meeting on the Web, using WebEx MeetMeNow.

Please click the following link to join the meeting: https://mwmus.webex.com/mwmus/jm.php?PWD=socialnetworking&MK=941185740  

MEETING PASSWORD: socialnetworking

Date: January 28, 2008

Time: 2:00 pm, Eastern Standard Time (GMT -05:00, New York)

Teleconference: Call-in toll number (US/Canada): 1-408-792-6300

Meeting Number: 941 185 740

SEO

Tuesday: 2 PM EST: SEO :: How to save your blog from the 5 most deadly mistakes


Join me for a 30 minute webinar on how to avoid being slapped by Google in a PageRank update and steer clear of the 5 most common and most deadly mistakes made in the real estate blogosphere.  This is a hands on class, so be ready to take notes and see how I would change site elements to gain better traction on the engines.  Stick around after and I will give you specific advice to improve your site if you are making these mistakes.

Recommended reading: Real Estate blogs Get Slapped by Google

Recommended reading: Autopsy of a Reciprocal Linking Penalty

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Please click the following link to join the meeting:

https://mwmus.webex.com/mwmus/jm.php?PWD=seotraining&MK=949654085 

MEETING PASSWORD: seotraining
Date: January 29, 2008
Time: 2:00 pm, Eastern Standard Time (GMT -05:00, New York)
Teleconference: Call-in toll number (US/Canada): 1-408-792-6300
Meeting Number: 949 654 085



PageRank 5 ClubPageRank 5 Club: by invitation only


PageRank 5 Club is a select group of bloggers invited to a weekly seminar and strategy session that helps them achieve a PageRank 5 within two Google PageRank Updates.  This is where I share the secret SEO strategies I don't share on my blog.

Course work and WebEx link emailed to you on Monday January 28th, 2008

Invited Bloggers: Laurie Mannym, Marc Blasi, Brian Wilson, Mariana Wagner, Lenore Wilkas, Brian Brady, Broker Bryant

 

 

57 Comments on The 7 Worst Pieces of SEO Advice that WILL Kill Your Blog

JAN
27
2008
133,671 Points 2 Featured Posts Localism Sponsor Outside Blog

Mary,

Thanks for the very valuable information. I have often asked about duplicate content and never got the same answer.

4:23pm • #1
134,160 Points 1 Featured Post
Mary- great advise. In the middle of your blog, I thought Jeff Foxworthy took over the writing. Thank you for the lesson
4:27pm • #2
650,412 Points 264 Featured Posts Outside Blog
Hi Mary, Good stuff as always. There are waaaaay too many SEO experts out there. You are so right that if they don't do it for a living then I sure as heck wouldn't be taking their advice. I'm doing everything I can to clear up some time this week for your webinars. Especially the PR5 group. Thanks for the invite.
4:27pm • #3
506,258 Points 151 Featured Posts Outside Blog

Mary.... I am losing my mind again....  you are spitting out so much information that I need to keep track of.  What exactly do you mean about more than 120 links on your home page. Links to?.....  

On another note, can you move your webinars to 3 pm?  LOL  <teasing> I missed last Tuesday because I just got swamped.. hoping to listen in on the next few... and then talking to you about my plans after the 1st of February...   the end of this month is rush, rush, rush...  thanks for the information.

jeff belonger
4:28pm • #4
318,541 Points 16 Featured Posts Outside Blog

Mary, I'll be there........signing on. Plan to be there for tomorrow. Can't wait to see what I learn. ;-)Pepper

4:50pm • #5
7 Featured Posts
I learn something new with every post of yours I read... thanks.  So... I can use the same post on AR and on my Point2 blog and it won't hurt each other????   I had asked this question of someone before and didnt get a response....  Keep teaching and I will keep learning :)!
6:00pm • #6
179,003 Points 6 Featured Posts Outside Blog
Mary,  As always thanks for the helpful hints.  I have to admit that  I'd read, and read, and read and have to wonder who is an expert and who is a quack.  Thanks for the list.  I've read some of these before, but a couple of more for me to check out now as well.
6:15pm • #7
Localism Sponsor
Mary, thank you. I have definately seem some of that bad angadvice floating around.
6:33pm • #8
101,949 Points Outside Blog
Thanks for this information,  I look forward to more information at your teleconference.
7:57pm • #9
Localism Sponsor

Thanks.  I'm just now starting to learn about SEO and this is valuable.  I'll try to log in to your Tuesday class too.

 

8:05pm • #10
282,524 Points 2 Featured Posts Localism Sponsor Outside Blog
Mary - Thanks for the information. I know that someday all of the suggestions that you made, and I implement, will pay off. I know it will take some time, so thanks for the help.
8:32pm • #11
Localism Sponsor Outside Blog
Good post... I will be there tomorrow as well.  Cant wait!
9:40pm • #12
Mary, Thanks for the information.  I love finding out information about interent marketing. 
9:45pm • #13
JAN
28
2008
111,310 Points 12 Featured Posts
Mary - Another timely post. I hope you continue this effort to educate us. Your blog is one of the most informative anywhere on the interweb. I am fortunate to have discovered you. I only hope that I can comprehend a portion of what you share.
12:18am • #14
Outside Blog

Thanks for the great tips.  I have been slammed with SEO companies that promise the world.  What is a good price to pay to have someone do this work anyway?  I have had quotes that are a flat fee, to monthly, ranging from 100 a month to some that want 1000 plus.  I like sign calls better!!

12:25am • #15
165,557 Points
It does get confusing for the novice when so much different advice is offered.  It's hard to know who to trust.
6:35am • #16
467,704 Points 51 Featured Posts Outside Blog

Mary - There is so much mis information that is always floating around the net in regards to SEO. There are a few Realtors that have been involved in these link schemes in my area and have not been penalized for it. I can not figure out why. These Realtors have exchanged links with numerous other Realtors across the country. They still are on the 1st page of Google in the 1st few positions. Maybe they have not linked to enough sites for it to be considered a penalty??

I would place you in the same category as some of the best people you have mentioned - your advice is always excellent.

9:13am • #17
Localism Sponsor Outside Blog
2:08 and I can not get on the webex or the phone... anyone else out there able to get on the training?
1:09pm • #18
Localism Sponsor Outside Blog

2:25pm EST.... Mary or anyone out there?

Monday:  2 PM EST: Blogging :: How to social network for traffic and leads


Join me for a 30 minute class on how you can use social network sites like Digg, Technorati, ActiveRain, LinkedIn, MyBlogLog, etc to build your business and blog. Bring your questions and hopefully I can answer them.

Recommended course reading: How to generate leads from a real estate blog

You have been invited to join a meeting on the Web, using WebEx MeetMeNow.

Please click the following link to join the meeting: https://mwmus.webex.com/mwmus/jm.php?PWD=socialnetworking&MK=941185740  

MEETING PASSWORD: socialnetworking

Date: January 28, 2008

Time: 2:00 pm, Eastern Standard Time (GMT -05:00, New York)

1:25pm • #19
10 Featured Posts Localism Sponsor

Mary, thanks for the info.  I was too late today but I will tune in tomorrow.  Thank you for all your help.
AJ

1:29pm • #20
2 Featured Posts
I tried to dial into the call, but was getting an error that the PIN was invalid. The site also doesn't work on mac, apparently. Maybe I can tune in other times.
3:25pm • #21
1 Featured Post
Too late today but plan to participate tomorrow!
4:48pm • #22
Thank you for sharing your post with us all, I really enjoyed it,thank you and keep posting,
11:40pm • #23
JAN
29
2008

good stuff! SEO seems like some things are concrete and then there are some very subtle rules. You seem to have a grasp on both. Digging in to Aaron Walls SEO book right now, I'm about 2/3 through it. very intense stuff, but logical and most of all methodical. I'm glad he has alot of friends in the Google Hall Monitor section because he passes it on to us crumb snatchers. 

thanks for the great blog post. (just found you but looks like alot to learn here)

10:43pm • #24
JAN
30
2008
Mary, wow I SEO is a whole different world. You made some compelling points, from now on I think your advice will be what I listen to.
1:41pm • #25
Love the great advice... Keep it up!
3:34pm • #26
JAN
31
2008
100,479 Points 1 Featured Post
WOW - a lot of great info here.  I missed the Webinars.  Where can I look to see when and where the next Webinars are?  Thanks - Nancy
2:48am • #27

Mary, Thanks for posting this information. I'm fairly new to blogging and obviously have a lot to learn. I'm going to subscribe to your blog.

10:21am • #28
152,049 Points 29 Featured Posts Localism Sponsor Outside Blog

Hi Mary,

Do you know if there are any spam acts that have to do with RSS.  Recently someone informed me that every 4th feed they send out is an advertisement.  Is this right and/or legal?

2:36pm • #29
FEB
01
2008

Great info. I've subscribed to you blog and look forward to getting on one of your blog classes.  I'm sorry I missed the last one.  Please keep me posted as to your schedule of classes.

Thanks,

Zen

9:28am • #30
The link to Real Estate blogs Get Slapped by Google doesn't work for me - it resolves to a blank page. Is anyone else having this problem?
Casey
2:29pm • #31
154,636 Points 13 Featured Posts

Thanks for the information. My SEO guy pretty much said what you said, so I guess that is good.

3:10pm • #32
453,041 Points 48 Featured Posts Localism Sponsor Outside Blog

Mary 

Everything I learned about search engine optimization I've learned right here on Active Rain.  You're an Active Rain Educator!

Mike in Tucson

3:17pm • #33
35 Featured Posts
Yeah, my links aren't going to work- it seems they have blocked me from leaving links to my own site.
3:20pm • #34
203,836 Points 1 Featured Post Outside Blog
Lots of information here - I will have to reread some of it!!!
8:21pm • #36
2 Featured Posts
Thanks so much Mary. Excellent advice as usual. I still have so much to learn!!!
9:20pm • #37
FEB
03
2008
Thanks for the advice. I greatly appreciate it.
1:32am • #38
FEB
06
2008
481,919 Points 10 Featured Posts Outside Blog
Thanks again for all the great information.  I try to keep up with it and want to get my site ranked higher with other search engines besides google.  I need more traffic to get more leads.  Any suggestions?
6:33am • #39
FEB
07
2008
366,100 Points 19 Featured Posts Outside Blog
Great info, thanks for the post.
10:54am • #40
FEB
08
2008
308,068 Points 4 Featured Posts Localism Sponsor

I subscribe to your RSS feed and your information is so extensive!  Wading through your info on AR is like dipping your DQ cone in chocolate!  Yummy.  Thank you.


3:57am • #41
Localism Sponsor

"Wading through your info on AR is like dipping your DQ cone in chocolate!  Yummy."

This has to win the award for best descriptive complement on AR.  Or am I biased because I love ice cream and chocolate?  :-D 

4:31am • #42
FEB
09
2008
Great article, quality over quantity can't be overstated in linking...
11:01pm • #43
FEB
11
2008
This is my first time in this group, and this is the first blog I am reading.  I guess I've learned enough to know I know absolutely nothing about seo and blogging.  It looks like trying to improve my ranking myself is out of the question.  Your blog made me know if I want to improve seo, I will need a professional.
6:58pm • #45
106,451 Points 3 Featured Posts Localism Sponsor

Thanks for all the great info -- I missed the telecon, but I am definitely going to subscribe to your blog!

 .... BlogRookie

9:36pm • #46
FEB
12
2008
222,006 Points Outside Blog

Thanks -- your last tip hit home for me only expect what you inspect as you pointed out by saying "
Always ask why the person giving you advice is recommending it and before you implement it, make sure that a respected authority in the SEO word seconds it by doing a search on Google."

Great advise 

6:33pm • #47
FEB
13
2008
166,345 Points 11 Featured Posts Localism Sponsor Outside Blog
Mary, you are such a tremendous souce of information.  We 'rainers are so lucky to have you.
10:46am • #48
FEB
14
2008
3 Featured Posts Localism Sponsor Outside Blog Hit Router
It so very hard to weed out the wannabees from the gonnabees to the "workerbees". Great effort.
8:16pm • #49
FEB
15
2008
455,189 Points Outside Blog

mary, so many terms to learn...what is a chicklett?

5:20pm • #50
FEB
16
2008
470,184 Points 2 Featured Posts Localism Sponsor Outside Blog
Thanks for sharing this in-depth and very easy-to-follow information. It is much appreciated as I have launched a new site and am working hard to make it visible.
12:09am • #51
FEB
18
2008

Mary, You always have such great info and insight. Your work is definitely apprecaited.

Zen

2:10pm • #52
FEB
21
2008
4 Featured Posts
I had no idea blogging was so intense....wow.  Thanks.
5:01pm • #53
FEB
22
2008

Hi Mary,

Good advice, although I think I would disagree about the outbound links - quality and relevance is important, so I think you can overstep the mark if you are linking to well respected, good quality sites. 

Not sure I know 120+  real estate sites I would want to link to though :)

And too true - look at who is giving the advice before even thinking about listening to them. 

2:47pm • #54
FEB
29
2008
114,945 Points 3 Featured Posts

I have always wondered about duplicate content (if I post my blog on 2 different sites), I am going to read your other article on duplicate content filters.  THANK YOU!!

10:48am • #55
MAR
01
2008
35 Featured Posts
Mark.  The 120 links is not just for outbound links.  It is the total amount of links you can have on a home page whcih includes outbound and internal links like navigation before Google stops crawling you deeply.  That number is a proven fact in the SEO community.  the only tie you can go beyond 120 is when you have a very trusted domain or a PR4 or above.
2:34pm • #56

Ah. My mistake, I was thinking outbound links only :) In that case, I agree - having that many links on the front page is a mistake. i like to interlink my internal pages so that the crawlers go deeper and deeper rather than having a huge list in one place.

Quite apart from that, it's unusable for a reader to see that many links in one place. Which is why it is penalized I suspect :)

 

2:52pm • #57

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