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The mortgage industry is changing right in front of us, basically on a monthly basis now. Which is why you need the advice of a mortgage professional and not an order taker. The word conventional mortgage doesn't mean that great rate or wholesome loan, that it did just several months ago. Don't be fooled by your typical loan officer or lender telling you otherwise. In many cases, your rate could be much higher on a conventional mortgage than on a FHA mortgage. To get a better understanding why this might be possible, please read FHA mortgages are better than conventional mortgages -- Why is that?

What I wanted to share with you is a basic example of someone putting 5% down on a home. Keep in mind that these examples can be used for refinances also, depending on how much equity that you have to work with. And keep this in mind, you need as little as 2.25% equity in your house to refinance with a FHA mortgage as opposed to 5% equity when it comes to a conventional mortgage. And you can include your closing costs up to 97.775% on a FHA mortgage, where as on a conventional mortgage you have to pay for your closing costs after you reach 90 LTV%.

 

 

The figures that I am about to show you are based on a $250,000 purchase price with 5% down. One reason why conventional rates are a little higher in this scenario as in FHA rates is because Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac have added penalties per se. If you are putting down less than 30% and your credit score is less than 680, certain fee penalties would apply to you, which would increase your rate.  The FICO (credit score) that I am going to use is 650, because this score is still above the general average. 

 

 

Type of Mortgage

Conventional Mortgage

FHA Mortgage

Purchase Price

$250,000

$250,000

Mortgage Amount

$237,500

$241,062 w/MIP

Rate with zero points

6.75%

6.00%

Principal & Interest Payment

$1,540.42

$1,445.29

Mortgage Insurance Payment

$152.40

$98.96

Total Mortgage Payment PI & TI

$1,692.82

$1,544.25

Savings

Costs $148.57 more per month

Savings of $148.57 per month

Disclaimer :  These rates are just an example and can change because of various market conditions and are based on a 30 year fixed rate of today. The fees would be the same and with zero points, so to compare this scenario as apples to apples. The conventional rate also includes the penalty for the 650 credit score.

 

 

Some of you might be saying that you will be adding $3,562 onto your principal balance if you did the FHA mortgage. This is correct and I don't want to confuse you with more numbers and charts. But here is a quick breakdown. If you kept your house for 5 years, which most people sell in a 6 year period, you would have saved $8,914.20 in that time period. This is a difference of $5,352.20 that you have saved. And one other thing that is very small, but still makes a difference. You will be subtracting a few more dollars per month from your principal because your interest is lower. Just something else to remember.

 

The main thing to remember here is that FHA is not a bad type of mortgage in any sense of the word. Even the appraisals are treated the same as a conventional mortgage. With the exception that if your home is in a declining market, FHA will not hold this against you, as long as the appraisal has good comps. And this example that I used was with someone who would more in likely have good credit, with a credit score of 650. With FHA, you won't be penalized with the same credit score or even a credit score of 550. If your lender says that there are penalties, then that is something internally and should be a red flag. This has not been passed down as of yet by those lenders that buy the loans from bankers or brokers.

 

 

 

How do I find an FHA approved lender?    You want to make sure who you are dealing with is FHA approved.

Why do I say this?  Not all lenders are approved FHA and some may tell you that you don't qualify FHA because in reality, they aren't FHA approved. 

You can find a HUD approved lender in your area by going to the following HUD website: http://www.hud.gov/ll/code/llplcrit.html     DISCLOSURE (just be careful of the spelling of the lender. If I put in my company's full name, Infinity Home Mortgage Company, Inc, it tells me that there is no such company. If I put in Infinity Home Mortgage, it shows my company as being FHA approved. Just keep this in mind. You can always call HUD also. (202) 708-1112

 

 

 

 

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16 Comments on FHA mortgages vs Conventional mortgages - A True Comparison

JAN
28
2008

Jeff,

I like your blogs... I have learned alot from the info you haved shared thank you!!! you are a true pro in our industry.

Rick

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Jeff, Interesting post. I won't go to much further. I do like your side by side comparison though.
1:17pm • #2

Hey Jeff!

Thanks for your posts and emails. I am a FHA believer and looks like folks like us may get real busy.

Happy Selling

Tony     

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Jeff, thanks for the link, but you know you are my FHA lender! Seriously good information all around.
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RICK...... well, thank you very much for those kind words.  Not sure if you have joined this group. The FHA Mortgage GroupAnd if I ever make it back up to Wisconsin, I'll look you up.  See you around the 'Rain.' 

MATT..... why is it interesting?  Because I talked down about conventional loans?  Would love more of your input. Thanks...

TONY..... my pleasure and welcome to Active Rain. And I agree, because of FHA, many of us will be very busy. And if you haven't yet, join the FHA group which is listed above.  thanks

MISSY.....  which link is that?  And where are my FHA clients then?  ;o)  Seriously, thanks for your support.

 

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Hi Jeff,
Now that is putting it in easy to read black and white.  Thanks.  Most of my buyers use VA but I am keeping the FHA option info in mind.
5:05pm • #6

Hi Jeff,

Don't understand why your showing a 6.75% Conventional Rate?  Also, the $98 MI with the FHA Loan is for the life of the loan the conventional is not. 

I think if you were to show the real scoop you should use today's rates...Conventional at 6% and FHA at 6.25% maybe...or is your example an illustration of 2 loans with the Lender making the same income?

5:44pm • #7
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The sad part is, you're the only person I know, who knows anything significant about FHA loans and you're on the other end of the country. So I guess I'll keep sending borrowers in your direction =)
6:15pm • #8
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CYNTHIA.....  well, thank you. I am glad that it is easy to read and to understand, for the most part.  thanks

 

JIM......   you don't understand why I am showing a rate of 6.75% for conventional?  Because you need to subtract the 1.25pt hit for a fico score of 650. And because FHA pricing with the SRP's included, have been a better priced loan in general in many years. Just about every lender out there, and I have been with many, large and small, are priced a little better on FHA pricing. 

In regards to the MI, the monthly MI for FHA loans. It is not for the life of the loan anymore.  FHA MIP vs Conventional PMI -- What to look for & the meanings -- Part 2    Besides, if I was comparing apples to apples, without the client paying down their principal balance, this would be an irrelevant issues until about year 11.

So, the real scoop? I think I did show the real scoop on everything that you mentioned. And I did state a zero point loan for both mortgages, comparing apples to apples. It's in the chart above.  So yes, this would be making the same money on either deal. Meaning that the FHA mortgage is much better, hands down. But your pricing would have to be a 1/2% better on Conventional loans and there is no such pricing with any lender out there.  Keeping in mind that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac set the pricing and investors then set it for the lenders. They are going to vary that much.  Thanks for stopping by.

 

Lisa.......    well, thank you for the kind words and compliment.  I know you have sent me one and I am trying to leave them messages. Other than that, please never hesitate to send me more, because I can do mortgages in Florida. Actually, 20% of my loans are from Florida. Even if I am north of you, my service would be the same as the guy next door.  thanks for your support. 

 

6:38pm • #9
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Jeff,

I know from experience that FHA is a great product...the problem is there are so few real estate agents and loan officers that know the product and are familiar with the programs, that they tend to shy away from FHA...big mistake!!! Thanks,   Fran

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Jeff, if congress get's fannie and freddie to up their limits, will FHA follow suit?  I'm talking a major increase like their asking for through Fannie and Freddie...417 to over 600k???
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FRAN G. .... you hit the nail on the head. Something that I have been preaching so much. Many loan officers that don't know how the product works and many realtors that think the program is the same as in was in the 90's, especially when it comes to appraisals. Everyone needs to get on the same page. Because as you can see, if a loan officer doesn't know what they are doing, they could cost the consumer more money, even in the short term.

 

FRAN W. ..... thanks for the compliment and for stopping by, Franny....  ;o)

 

KARL......   The House committee and the President, with the support of the Senate, have agreed on raising the limits.   2008 FHA & Conforming loan limits -- Truth or Rumor  It just comes down to either a flat number or 125% of the median value of homes. They are still working out the particulars, but it's like 95% there.  And I even got this from someone pretty close to the situation.  But the conventional limits will only be raised for a year. The new FHA limits more in likely will be permanent.  

 

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Jeff, that's good stuff!  Thanks for the post.
10:54pm • #14
JAN
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2008
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I love it - I still have trouble occasionally getting the listing agent to understand that the buyer has chosen an FHA loan because it makes sense not because they don't qualify for anything else -
1:01am • #15
MAR
15
2008

Jeff,

 Just came across your blog and had a question. 

Aren't most lenders actually charging either a higher interest rate or higher fees for an FHA loan than a conventional with all else being equal?  

If so, my guess is even though there is more total compensation to the originator when they do an FHA loan, they are claiming it is more costly/time consuming to originate along with even though they can make more off the FHA loan, it still works out to be a better deal to the borrower.

Is that your take as well?

Thanks 

 

Mike
2:46am • #16

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