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DO AMERICANS WANT A MARKET ECONOMY OR DO WE WANT A MANAGED ECONOMY?

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Real Estate Agent with Lenn Harley, Homefinders.com, MD & VA Homes and Real Estate 303829;0225082372

Inspired by Mike Jones of Arizona who writes about Uncle Sam and the free market, a few observations about the so called "stimulus" the government have cut and pasted together to cure our economic ills. 

THE AMERICAN PROMISE - life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.  Happiness is extremely difficult without financial security and the struggle for that financial security is caught up in our present financial quagmire caused by "the mortgage mess".  The perfidy of a few money managers and speculators has caused a significant number of home owners to lose their homes, lose their credit and, in many cases, lose their financial security. 

AMERICANS BELIEVE WE HAVE A MARKET ECONOMY.  Many have always sought free market solutions to economic problems.  For most folks, if you want or need more money, you get a second job, get a better paying job or sell one asset to pay for another.  Many believe that the market works and the best solution is to "let the market work".  That system isn't always pretty.  Speculators who bet wrong lose.  However, they do so freely. 

INCORRECT PRICING OF PRODUCTS CAN PUT YOU OUT OF BUSINESS.  Banks and mortgage companies that relied on lower than profitable mortgage loans to "beat the competition" found that they couldn't make a profit.  The market solution is to let these mortgage companies find their own solution, get investment money, remodel their product to one that is profitable OR go out of business.  Stock holders in these companies would lose money, but it was money that was speculated.  When a mortgage company expands exponentially through a system of offering the lowest price whether or not that price provides any profit, they are simply growing fat, they're not growing healthy.  A market economy would demand that any company suffer the consequences of  poor management that sold defective goods or made loans to consumers with no feasibility of repayment, loans that the mortgage company knew or should have known couldn't be repaid.  The further perfidy of a mortgage company growing fat by making bad loans is that the borrowers were often financing homes.  They were not financing automobiles or sofas or sail boats or vacations.  They were financing homes and the multitude of human experiences, jobs, schools, playgrounds, family and friends that is represented by "home". 

THE WAL-MART OF MORTGAGE COMPANIES?  Wal-Mart offers low prices to consumers and is the dominant retailer in the U.S.  However, Wal-Mart also manages it's purchasing and distribution in a way that is profitable.  The key to dominating market share through low prices is offering goods and services efficiently based on low margins, not no margins.  If Wal-Mart sold goods at prices lower than they paid, they wouldn't be the marketing machine they are today.  If a mortgage company gains market share through the distribution of bad loans that are not repaid, sooner or later, that mortgage company will run out of investment money to cover the short-fall.  In the case of making bad loans, selling the bad loans, packaging the bad loans and selling the bad parts, once the money stream is interrupted by defaults, foreclosures and short sales, it's game over.  Those parts aren't worth what the investors paid for them. 

But wait, that mortgage company is just one of many that are on the cusp of bankruptcy caused by greedy and incompetent management.  There are many and the institutions that supported their financial structure has callapsed like the Ponzi scheme that it resembled.  Make loan, sell loan, collect loans, cut them up in little pieces and sell off the parts.  The financial markets resembled a meat market selling chicken parts. 

 

GET YOUR PARTS HERE 

The securitization of home mortgages has proved to be one of the contributors to the mortgage mess. 

Investors around the world, hedge market managers, etc. sold off mortgages like so many chicken parts.  

The issuers of the bad loans do not deserve to be saved.   Their greed has caused the collapse of the home loan mortgage market on which Americans rely for mortgage financing.  Today, even prospective home buyers with good credit and down payments are finding mortgage money as scarce as hen's teeth.   

 Where did all the money go??

 Image originally posted in June 2007.   "The more things change, the more they remain the same."

 

 

 

ENTER THE FINANCIAL STIMULUS.  SOUNDS LIKE A MANAGED ECONOMY SOLUTION TO A MARKET  PROBLEM.  The stimulus is proposed by the managers of the economy as the solution to the mortgage mess.  That leads to the question of "Who are the managers?"   The managers are the same persons and institutions who abused the American public by neglecting their duty of oversight in exchange for money contributions from the very entities that were perpetrating the Ponzi scheme of selling mortgages to investors like so many chicken parts.  The managers are the same persons who permitted the banking institutions to chop up the mortgages and package them to be sold as "parts".  The managers are the same persons that are using their position of privilege to borrow about $150,000,000,000 from the budgets of one group of Americans and give it away in small "parts" to another group of Americans.  They haven't explained to the satisfaction of many just how giving money away in small parts is going to solve "the mortgage mess".  The individual gifts are not sufficient to make more than one mortgage payment.  But, as we know, Americans aren't expected to pay a mortgage payment with the gift, they are expected to go to the Mall and spend the money on clothes, toys, shoes, electronics and other consumer goods.  Wal-Mart will sell a lot of goods and realize small profits.  The consumer's house will go to foreclosure. 

So, the question is, who is the stimulus supposed to help?  I'll be back when I can figure that one out. 

Courtesy, Lenn Harley, Broker, Homefinders.com, 800-711-7988.

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Comments(52)

Jan Wood
None - Gallatin, TN
Lenn:  I just got this today from NAR... what say you about this?

The much needed and welcome economic stimulus package is now in the hands of the U.S. Senate. But the Senate must include new loan limits on FHA and Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac loans. America's housing market needs this help.

NAR wants a stimulus package that will be good for America’s home owners now and for future homeowners to come. 

Take Action and make your position known. Tell   Senators Alexander and Corker that including these new loan limits must be included in the economic package

Send this sample letter to Senators Alexander and Corker:

Subject: Support Inclusion of Housing in the Economic Stimulus Package 

Dear [decision maker name automatically inserted here],

As a constituent and a REALTOR®, I want to stress how important it is for the Senate to include increases for the FHA and GSE loan limits in the Senate’s economic stimulus package.  These provisions will create safe and affordable mortgage options for our state’s homeowners and provide much needed stability for our local economies.

The critical role that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac (GSEs) play in providing liquidity to the mortgage market has never been more evident than it is today.  The national subprime meltdown has had a dramatic impact on both the cost and availability of mortgages in my market.  Since August 2007, the interest rates for jumbo borrowers have been more than 1 percentage point higher than conforming loans, which can cost homeowners up to $400 month in higher interest payments.

Raising the GSEs’ conforming loan limit will provide immediate relief to borrowers and alleviate downward pressure on our already fragile housing markets. According to the National Association of REALTORS®, increasing the GSE loan limit will result in more than 300,000 additional home sales and strengthen current home prices by 2 to 3 percent.

I also believe that increasing the FHA loan limits is critical to helping bolster our fragile housing market.  Current law restricts FHA loans to levels well below the median home price in many areas of the country and caps loans in high costs states at $363,790. These limits are preventing many homebuyers from using FHA to purchase or refinance their loan.  The proposed provision will increase FHA loan limits nationwide by raising the floor to $271,050 and the limit to 125% of local median home prices.  These increases will help an additional 138,000 Americans purchase and 200,000 families refinance their homes safely and affordably.

I hope I can count on you to support including increases for the FHA and GSE loan limits in the Senate’s economic stimulus package.  Our national housing and mortgage finance markets need stability and an immediate infusion of liquidity.  Both of these provisions are necessary if our nation’s families, housing markets and economy are to move beyond the crisis they now face.

 

Sincerely,

Jan 30, 2008 10:23 AM
Lenn Harley
Lenn Harley, Homefinders.com, MD & VA Homes and Real Estate - Leesburg, VA
Real Estate Broker - Virginia & Maryland

Jan.  Thanks for commenting. 

I have e-mailed and sent telegrams to my representatives urging them to support higher loan limits for the GSEs and FHA. 

I didn't use the NAR form because it advocates higher home price supports which, for my area, I do not support.  Our home prices are still out of market for the average home buyer's qualifying income. 

High home prices are one of the things that got us where we are. 

 

Jan 30, 2008 11:37 AM
» Bill Burress Nationwide Mortgage Originator
» Bill Burress Nationwide Mortgage Originator - Fort Myers, FL

Lenn:

Congratulations!

This post has earned featured post status on the Silent Majority group in ActiveRain.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Jan 30, 2008 01:30 PM
Simon Conway
Orlando Area Real Estate Services - Orlando, FL
Somebody said the free market failed to manage itself. I disagree. Failure is part of the free market and countrywide and numerous others failed. Consumers have a right to expect guidance from their lenders, but there was huge consumer greed as well.
Jan 30, 2008 01:43 PM
Jolynne Photography, Creative Wedding Photography, Family Portraits, Bar Mitzvahs
Jolynne Photography - Hemet, CA
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Lenn...just the sort of thing I need to read before heading on vacation with my wife!

Let's see...in California people can have a negative amortization loan, that they stated their fixed income higher than they should to qualify for a payment that leaves $700 or more interest deferred (or 'unpaid' in old English).

So if I was going to guess where the $300 or more 'economic stimulus' will end up, I'm going to say....

A new flatscreen TV. Of course, they'll have to finance the majority of the expense, but no payments for a year!

Jan 30, 2008 02:37 PM
Lenn Harley
Lenn Harley, Homefinders.com, MD & VA Homes and Real Estate - Leesburg, VA
Real Estate Broker - Virginia & Maryland

Bill.  THANKS ! ! !     I'll take a gold star any place I can get one. 

Simon.  I do not expect mortgage expertise from the consumer.  They have their own expertise in whatever job or profession they hold.  Mortgage expertise is the job of mortgage professionals.  In many cases, the mortgage professional said "APPROVED" when it should have said "DENIED".  I don't care how much pressure the mortgage professional gets from the consumer or the agent (that's been one of the excuses), the consumer should not be "given" $100,000 or $3,000,000 or $500,000 or $500 if they can't show the ability to repay the loan.  The consumer is now defaulting, but the mortgage professionals enabled them.

Joey.  Nice to hear from you.  I don't know where you can buy a flat screen TV for $300.  They have to have a family with several children to qualify for the money for large ticket consumer items.  Which, of course, many will.  But, none of the checks from the government will be enough for one mortgag payment. 

Have a nice vacation.

Jan 30, 2008 11:20 PM
John March
Charisma Media Group, LLC - Bluffton, SC
"Engage, connect, prosper" (Matt 6:33)

 Here Ye!  Here Ye!

"Ye (You)  shall be a Tyson chicken in every garage and a Toyota in every pot

...er...no, wait, that's not right--- let's try again:

"Ye (You) shall have  A POT...but you can't "Wii Wii" in it!"

Jan 31, 2008 02:40 AM
» Bill Burress Nationwide Mortgage Originator
» Bill Burress Nationwide Mortgage Originator - Fort Myers, FL

Lenn:

You are welcome.  I love your posts.  They are always well thought out.

Jan 31, 2008 05:42 AM
Gary Miljour
American Financial Network, Inc. NMLS#207208 - Southern Pines, NC
Mortgage Originator NMLS Licensed in AZ and NC

Lenn,

You could not of said it any better.  My biggest laugh I had the other day was when I heard that the Mortgage Bankers Association does not want to take an inch of responsibility for the mess we are in.  Us lenders and mortgage companies made some bad decisions that have caused much heartache to many.  At least take a little responsibility. 

Great Post.

Feb 01, 2008 12:59 AM
Midori Miller
Talk 2 Midori, LLC - Daytona Beach, FL
Online Marketing For Real Estate Professionals

Lenn-I think the stimulus is a joke...not sure what people will do with the funds but I bet for some to pay bills and have no choice in the matter!  Is it really free money????  Not sure about that either!  Raising the loan limits...I agree they should have done that a long time ago...all of these crazy loans that emerged is really affecting the market today....I saw numbers of interest only loans to balloon this year...crazy...crazy...crazy!  Great post and you do an incredible job with your post...you do in fact post hard core real estate! :)

Congrats Lenn...this post was selected for the blogger's choice winner! 

                                     

Feb 14, 2008 03:55 AM
Lenn Harley
Lenn Harley, Homefinders.com, MD & VA Homes and Real Estate - Leesburg, VA
Real Estate Broker - Virginia & Maryland

John.  Thanks for the chuckle.  I needed one today.

Gary.  I agree.  Let's face it.  We all, buyers, sellers, agents, appraisers, etc. rely on the loan officers saying "yea or nay" when someone makes a loan application. 

Midori.  Yippie.  I love an award.  Any award.  I love awards.  Thanks.

Feb 14, 2008 04:03 AM
Allison Stewart
St.Cloud Homes - Saint Cloud, FL
St. Cloud Fl Realtor, Osceola County Real Estate 407-616-9904

LENN- As always you have such insight.  It remains t be seen who will directly benefit from the stimulus package. With so much debt accruing usury interest charges, it is the equivelent for many financially injured people of putting a band aid on a bleeding artery.

However, for others, it may be the incentive they need to search for modest priced housing and use it as down payment money. 

It remains to be seen if the "Free money" will be "income" next tax year or not.  Even the experts are not certain.  It will however, give some people, a little room to take a breath before the next month's bills arrive.  Sort of the equivelent of allowing their heads up before they are pushed under water again. Delays the inevitable drowning for too many unfortunate souls.

Feb 14, 2008 05:39 AM
Lenn Harley
Lenn Harley, Homefinders.com, MD & VA Homes and Real Estate - Leesburg, VA
Real Estate Broker - Virginia & Maryland

Allison.

You're a lot more optimistic than I.  But, if the government is going to move money around, best they give it back to real folks.  This beats an earmark anytime. 

 

Feb 14, 2008 08:39 AM
Lola Audu
Lola Audu~Audu Real Estate~Grand Rapids, MI Real Estate - Grand Rapids, MI
Audu Real Estate~Grand Rapids, MI ~Welcome Home!
Lenn, Did you draw that cartoon?  Sorry, I didn't read all the comments, but if you did...you're a woman of diverse talents! :)  It is sobering to contemplate what sort of a mess we are in. One of the reasons why it's difficult to quantify is that I don't think anyone really wants to look at the true extent of this dilemma.  So, we continue to skirt around the issue and push money in circles...
Feb 14, 2008 11:35 AM
Jesse Clifton
Jesse Clifton & Associates - Fairbanks, AK
Hi, Lenn - This is yet another great post.  The free market does work... when we let it work.  The problem is that Alan "asleep at the switch" Greenspan failed to act in time to cut off the incentives for the financial markets and they found greed.  Enter Bernake and his apparent inability to control the screaming baby (Wall Street) so he opts to throwing more money at it until it's a screaming teenage monster.  Now of course rather than let the market dictate the appropriate punishment for Countrywide and others we bail them out and throw more money we don't have at them.  Brilliant plan.  I say let the lenders fold, let the shareholder portfolios take a hit, let the CEO's trade their tailored suits for thrice worn prison shoes.  Perhaps then the real lessons of the power of a free market will be learned.
Feb 14, 2008 07:34 PM
Ruthmarie Hicks
Keller Williams NY Realty - 120 Bloomingdale Road #101, White Plains NY 10605 - White Plains, NY
Too much pandering in the name of free markets got us INTO this mess.  Mixing metaphors between regulation and law is not impressive.  We need our laws enforced but the creation of law itself is a form of regulation. There is no such thing as a society free from regulatory constraints and some form of management - unless anarchy is what you are after.   If you want a truly "free" society read Upton Sinclair's "The Jungle."  I have a great deal of respect for you Lenn, but on this you are dead wrong.  Fortunately, the country is waking up and the right-wing is SOOOOOO gone this Nov.  GO OBAMA!!!!
Feb 14, 2008 10:04 PM
Lenn Harley
Lenn Harley, Homefinders.com, MD & VA Homes and Real Estate - Leesburg, VA
Real Estate Broker - Virginia & Maryland

Ruthmarie.  Thanks for your thoughtful comments.  I would prefer anarchy to socialism with the government giving us what they believe is "good for us". 

The mortgage mess got out of hand due to over regulation, by the Fed, by the GSE perfidy and by the companies ignoring the guidelines that existed. 

I don't believe that the government can fix what they broke, the American people and the free market may be able to.  When government "fixes" things, they simply move money around, from less favored to more favored.  In this case, from the treasury, creating higher deficits to large voting blocks. 

I don't see "Market Economy" and "Managed Economy" as metaphors.  We have laws and that's a good thing, but laws need regulations and guidelines to work.  IMO, the entities that ignored the regulations and guidelines were not exhibiting any love of the market economy.  They are simply law breakers and opportunists.  Franklin Raines being the most despicable.  The guidelines promulgated for and by Fannie Mae were ignored because Fannie was busy covering their Fanny.

 

Feb 14, 2008 10:41 PM
Lenn Harley
Lenn Harley, Homefinders.com, MD & VA Homes and Real Estate - Leesburg, VA
Real Estate Broker - Virginia & Maryland

Jesse and Kathy.  Thanks.  Ditto your statement below.

"I say let the lenders fold, let the shareholder portfolios take a hit, let the CEO's trade their tailored suits for thrice worn prison shoes.  Perhaps then the real lessons of the power of a free market will be learned."

Lola.  Yes, the cartoon is mine originally done last June when the extent of the securitization of mortgages became known.  See: http://activerain.com/blogsview/122552/WALL-STREET-WANTS-TO

I believe that you are right.  We haven't begun to see the extent of the mess.

 

Feb 14, 2008 10:47 PM
Ruthmarie Hicks
Keller Williams NY Realty - 120 Bloomingdale Road #101, White Plains NY 10605 - White Plains, NY

See I think UNDER regulation and pandering to the business class created this mess.  Just as pandering to unions created problems in the 1970s.  (I was a kid in the 70s so my comments in that vein are not from personal experience but from listening to my parents and reading about it when I was older.)  To me laws equal an attempt to regulate the economy and it is merely a question of where the pendulum is swinging at the moment in time that determines who benefits and who suffers from the regulation.  That pendulum tends to miss its mark. One group gains the upper hand - generally because the public is fed up with how things were being done - and the pendulum swings in the other direction.  But we are rapidly getting back to the robber baron era and it needs to END before the middle and working classes are destroyed.

Regulation is everywhere - what we are arguing about is who is most severely impacted.  

This is a seminal election.  The pendulum will start to swing the other way.  In many ways I'm a typical moderate and my vote swung to the left 8 years ago - probably because i was awake and saw the writing on the wall.  I was middle class and watching my self and colleagues sink into poverty from simple greed and an inability  to REGULATE industry and FORCE it to do the right thing - not just the profitable thing.  The rest of America is waking up from their stupor and my main concern is the pendulum will swing too far the OTHER way.  But pushing things back to more regulation is looooong over due  

Feb 15, 2008 08:28 PM
Lenn Harley
Lenn Harley, Homefinders.com, MD & VA Homes and Real Estate - Leesburg, VA
Real Estate Broker - Virginia & Maryland

Ruthmarie.  We'll see. 

I don't see anyone riding to the White House by class warfare.  If that worked, Dennis Kucinich or John Edwards would be on top now.  Clinton and Obama will no doubt slide into the "class" arguments in order to garner the blocks of voters that look to government to solve all problems and to keep the Soros money coming and attract perhaps some Chinese money.  Clinton knows where the Chinese money is hidding.   

I'm always curious about the term "working class".  It denigrates everything that Americans believe.  We believe that hard work and education will help individuals rise to a position of security and prosperity.  Yet, the "working class" argument tries to make those very hard working Americans believe that they have to become a "class", take control of the economy and strip the wealth of those who have worked hard and invested in themselves to accumulate wealth and security. 

It appears that to become successful and financially secure, one must either work hard, save and invest and enjoy the fruits of our labor, OR, band together as a "class", take the wealth from those who have it and parcel it out among their "working class". 

 

Feb 15, 2008 10:41 PM