In a previous incarnation I was a sport climber.  It was an inevitable result of climbing around on buildings during construction for most of my life.

When I was a builder there was little thought of fall protection and there were lots of deaths and injuries as a result---obviously none killed me but I had my share of falls.

Klee the climberToday there are requirements for fall protection for persons working on buildings whenever a fall might occur to a surface that is more than 6 feet from wherever a worker is working.  These regulations generally apply to employees and likely do not cover someone that is not an employee.  We used to do things during the construction process that no sport climber would ever think of doing without ropes and harnesses out on a rock face somewhere.

The other day I had my “corkers” (spiked shoes) on in order to inspect a fairly steep wood shake roof.  As I got toward the top I noticed a “fall protection bracket” attached to a barge rafter near the ridge.  As a sport climber and former employer, the sight of it made me wince. 

There are a couple of things to consider.  First, the ropes that OSHA requires roofers to use are what are known as “static lines.”  What thatis means is, that unlike the ropes that sport climbers use, they DO NOT STRETCH.  Why is that important?  The forces of the fall on a hanger are considerably higher on a static line than would be generated on a rope that can stretch (dynamic line) to absorb some of the shock of the fall. 

These brackets, when properly nailed in place, will likely withstand the kinds of forces generated from a fall from a typical house roof.  The key though is that they have to be properly nailed in place.  They are designed to be installed straddling the roof peak and the nails must go into the solid wood of the truss or rafter on “both sides.”  It is not ideal even then---but will likely be sufficient to arrest a fall.

With this bit of background, I think you can probably see why I winced when I saw the way this bracket was attached in a downward hanging position with only a couple of nails. 

Fall protection bracket

Contrary to the falls one sees in movies, where someone catches themselves on a tree root after they slide over the edge of a cliff, I can tell you that it is just not possible to catch yourself from a fall as little as 2 feet.  A 200 lb roofer falling 4 feet  and coming to a rude stop at the end of his static line can generate close to 2000 lbs of force----far more than that wimpy barge rafter could ever support.  In fact the roofer would likely not even notice the bracket rip the bottom of the barge rafter off the house---if not pulling the entire rafter off.  Instead it would be the ground that would be the rude part, with the barge rafter in quick pursuit!

The more I think about it, the more I can only conclude this is just another one of the many ways human beings figure out ways to clean the gene pool.  I am all for calculated risk---but I can not see any calculation in this installation whatsoever.

 

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I always tell buyer that I don't do roofs and I don't do crawl spaces!  After seeing this situation, I am glad that is one of my rules.

7:11pm • #8
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I never knew these existed. I just have a lot of respect for sure footed roofers, as I know they have the highest worker comp premiums in the building trades.
8:55pm • #9
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Just the height from the roof to the ground made me dizzy from the photo.  And yes, I can see why you winched, that wouldn't do much good at all. 

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Joan, and it is probably a good rule to have---some days I wish I could :)

Gary, as a builder I limited what some of my guys did just because of the huge costs of L & I for some aspects of construction

Carla, someone just did not know what they didn't know :)

10:43pm • #11
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As a person who has fallen off a roof, having safety measures in place is very important... It is so easy to get injured by a fall.

3:47am • #12
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Safety first.   When I was a union iron-worker I watched a friend fall 60ft.  We were in our 20's.  I'm 40 and he still walks with a cane is with a bad pimp.  Safety first always.

4:01am • #13
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Charles, young people think they are invincible. As you survive getting older, you are thankful for the safety devices.

6:18am • #14
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I never knew about those hangers and you would think this is a mandatory thing since man carved out caves high in the mountains...I always used to watch men two stories up doing work practicing their bravado and wondered why? Safety ropes, shoes and all the rest of it or it shouldn't be allowed...Most educational and informative post here..thank you

7:08am • #15
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I winced too Charles.

I enjoyed the little rock climber photo, a future roofer?

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Scott, and in my experience it is the most experienced that take the worst falls

Steve, a 60 foot fall is going to result in all kinds of problems for sure---pretty lucky to be alive I would say

Michael, does that mean I am still young? :)

Richie, in almost all cases----unless you are replacing your own roof---yourself, they are required now.

Tom, the picture is of my oldest son---who turned into a high school teacher and a very good sport climber.

7:48am • #17
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Charles -- they didn't even get nails through all the holes, how did they think that would work?  This must be a case where the boss said you need to use this, and didn't give the employees any instruction in how it was supposed to be set up properly.

11:41am • #18
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Steven, and the odd thing is that the installation instructions are right on the thing :)

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One of the home inspectors in our area who is NOT on our list of recommended vendors, just fyi, took 2 buyers up on the roof with him, to show them what he had found. When the seller saw this she freaked out. The buyer was afraid of heights and very scared. Something terrible could have happened to these buyers, as they have no experience climbing on roofs and were scared. I cannot believe an inspector would do this! 

1:35pm • #20
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Erica, I have on occasion turned around on the roof to see the client following me onto the roof.  I politely tell them my insurance would not cover them or me if they fall and ask "politely" to return to the ground where everyone's insurance is likely to mean something :)

1:44pm • #21
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I am glad to be a Realtor so as I don't climb on roofs or give opinions about one HEHE. Good luck Charles

4:05pm • #22
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Pensacola, I suspect we are both glad we don't have the other's job :)

5:18pm • #23
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Yikes.  A little off topic, but I wrote a letter to OSHA asking for an official response about whether or not home insepctors require fall protection, regardless of whether or not they're employees.  My understanding is that no fall protection is ever required for inspectors.   That was about a year ago, and they never responded. 

4:37am • #24
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A little cleansing is usually a good thing :) 

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Reuben, as a former general contractor that had to deal with such things I am pretty sure that OSHA rules only apply to employees.  I suspect that they might be able to make a case for requiring it of inspectors that are the employee of someone else.  Would love to know what you find out.

Jim, it happens every day :)

10:10am • #26
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Yeah, we used to say it wasen't the fall that would get you, it's that sudden 'bring up'.

As for inspection requirements for fall protection, it seems to have peen left to the inspector to decide what is safe for him, using the argument that he always has the option to inspect from the ground or the edge if the roof is too dangerous to walk.

Personally, as a carpenter with years of roof experience I'm a very good judge of safety, and if I needed a harness to inspect the roof, it would be under positive tension all the time (= no fall decent or stop) and only on a commercial inspection where I was being paid for the time. The same conditions for residential inspection would be ocular and edge insection only.

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