Sad for everyone involvedThis is the conclusion of a post I started on A Nightmare to Remember. If you haven’t read Part I or Part II, you might want read those first.

 

Part II ended with me finding out the sellers had re-listed the house to my utter surprise with their Attorney, who was also a Realtor.

My comment to my former client, when I called her up and heard the news was:

“Why, I don’t understand?”

“Missy, you didn’t sell our house and we wanted to let someone else try”.

Ms. Seller, “I brought you 4 offers on your house, two of which were accepted, one fell apart over the square footage, and one your lenders would not respond to the other offer after waiting 3 weeks”. “I did everything I knew to get the house to closing.”

Ms Seller, “It’s not personal”. “We want to give our attorney a try”.

“Well, I wish you the best of success in selling your home” and I meant it.

As painful as it was for me, I knew it was worse for them. Was I upset? Yes, of course, I'm human.

Did the attorney interfere with the agency relationship by listing the house? I have no clue as I had withdrawn the listing as the sellers had instructed me to, 3 weeks before and I obviously was not privy to the conversations. I was not under any agency relationship at the time. I do know the seller told me the attorney was supposed to have called and told me, and he did not. She was surprised about that.

Conclusion on the house: The house did not sell in the next 5 months, that the Attorney/Realtor had it listed. Maybe they received offers; I have no way of knowing.

A year of stressThe Lawsuit: I and my broker spent $1,500.00 for the first line of defense to defend the lawsuit. The rest was covered by my E&O Insurance. Both the buyer agent and I were dropped from the lawsuit. This is the only time I have been sued in 13 years, and yes it was stressful.

Thank goodness, I had an appraisal to back up the square footage, and you could see on the listing where I had crossed out, the assessor’s square footage and written in what my sellers told me the appraisal. And we had the appraisal to back it up. No intent to defraud the buyers.

The house was eventually SOLD after the foreclosure redemption period,(6months in Michigan) for $50,000.00 LESS than the offers I had received and one year later.

 

The sellers finally won the law-suite and got to keep the $10,000 EMD. They told me at the grocery store two years later. 

The sellers continued to rent for a couple of years and eventually did purchase a home.

EMDThe buyers had “buyer’s remorse”. They just did not want the house. They never moved to Ann Arbor but continued to live with the parents in another town. The parents never wanted them to move in the first place. They lost their $10,000.00 EMD and no telling how much in pursuing the lawsuit. They changed attorneys twice.

The Square Footage: The appraiser who did the 500 S.F. higher had counted the air above the great room in the re-finance appraisal.

Lessons Learned: I learned to always LOOK at the appraisal at the time the sellers disagree with the Tax Assessors record on file before changing it in the listing contract.  I learned the bank didn’t really care and could have sold it a year earlier for more money. I learned that even when we give our heart and soul to a listing and clients we still might not get paid. I learned that there is no required method to measuring square footage and all four measurements were different.

Andrew LenzaAnd this post was written as a result of Andrew Lenza’s post on Playing with House Money inside the Titanic’s Casino! Receiving an Offer, to quote Andrew:

“You still may not get paid. But you're walking out of the suede room with your reputation intact, a feat not-so-com-pleat but still a rather valiant maybe. And if you survive the blunt force of the iceberg with your reputation, you can always make money once back on terra firma. You produced a result. Now where is the aft deck smorgasbord? I'm absolutely famished.”

“WHOA! WHAT WAS THAT?!? Felt like we just hit something really, really hard.”

I’ve learned not to get giddy when the offer(s) come in. This is where the real work begins. Yes, Andrew, there are ice-bergs out there to stay clear of.  I am thankful the Buyer Agent, (who actually was from a different area), was on the same page as I was throughout the ordeal. That made it easier for the all the negotiations. What could have been advesarial was not and we have remained friends. The buyer stopped speaking to him when he told them they would lose their EMD. He told them to walk-away, they were going to lose the EMD and more money in legal fees. They did.

What started with a square foot issue, (on a loan already funded), ended with a lawsuit, a foreclosure, the time spent, the E&O (right of first defense) $1,500.00 lost and the disruption of many lives.

The learning experience priceless. 

 

***Names, towns, square footage amount, have been changed to protect the parties involved*** but a true event.

 

 

 
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70 Comments on PartIII...The Sad Ending

As you stated "The learning experience priceless" so it is for us all. Thanks so much for sharing and hopefully your experience will help others avoid the same type of thing.

01/30/2008 07:43 AM by Monika McGillicuddy~REALTOR®~ N.H. Real Estate Broker & Trainer (Prudential Verani Realty/Hampstead)


Missy - What an unbelievable story! SO many twists and turns it was like reading a great novel :) Can you imagine a new agent going through this scenerio - Would they want to continue in Real Estate? There are som many lessons to be learned in Real Estate. I think anybody that has been in the game for a while can attest to the fact that they would have done something different in their career.

01/30/2008 07:46 AM by Bill Gassett Metrowest Massachusetts Real Estate (RE/MAX Executive Realty)


Thank you for sharing your experience. How very frustrating that had to have been.

01/30/2008 07:47 AM by Cathy Glass, Oak Ridge, Knoxville Real Estate (Coldwell Banker Wallace and Wallace)


Great series Missy, what a crazy series of events! Thanks for sharing.

01/30/2008 07:47 AM by Mike Mitchell - REALTOR® - St. Clair Shores, MI (GMAC Real Estate The Kee Group)


Missy-Wow...I just read the entire series...and you have been through alot.  That really stinks about the attorney...in my mind...truly unethical.  I have to agree with Monika chalk it up for the experience....It's a shame these seller's got so frustrated to end up loosing their home afterall.

01/30/2008 07:47 AM by Midori Miller-Daytona Beach Florida Real Estate Trainer (CENTURY 21 Sundance Realty)


I have been refreshing my "subscribed" list all morning waiting for this installment.  (You had me hooked...)

"I’ve learned not to get giddy when the offer(s) come in. This is where the real work begins." 

AMEN!!

What a lousy situation all the way around.  I'm sorry this happened to you Missy.  The "good" thing to come out of it is one more learning experience..they are priceless.

01/30/2008 07:49 AM by


This story really makes you stop and think about all of the details when you list a property and the importance of each and every one of them.

01/30/2008 07:49 AM by Kevin & Monica Ray, Missoula, Superior & Western Montana Real Estate Specialists (Streamside Realty )


I will learn to sign in.

I will learn to sign in.

I will learn to sign in.

 (That was me "anon" above..again..)

01/30/2008 07:50 AM by Kris Wales-Macomb County MI Real estate (RE/MAX Advantage 1, Inc.)


There were truly no winners in this entire ordeal.  But, good for you to make it a learning experience and not hold on to resentments.  You are a true professional!

01/30/2008 07:53 AM by Lake Norman Real Estate ~ Diane Aurit (RE/MAX at the Lake)


Thanks Missy for sharing this priceless learning experience with all of us.  I for one, will be a real stickler on the details of the listing agreement...no matter how minor they may seem at the time. 

01/30/2008 07:54 AM by Renee Parker, Lansing Realtor (Coldwell Banker Hubbell BriarWood)


Missy - I was waiting for what happened. How sad for you and the buyer agent who, at least, had enough sense to tell his clients to walk. They should have listened.

How sad for you that your sellers didn't stick with you as their agent. This is a true learning exerience for all of us and I think it should be required reading in any real estate school where they never give you the cold hard facts of the business.

01/30/2008 07:57 AM by Linda Scanlan (A Fan of AR)


Really interesting post.  I think that one of the things that would really irk me was that the sellers did not call you directly to say they were frustrated and wanted to try something else.  The attorney's fee and the savings might have been a part of the reasons.  "Square footage to be confirmed by buyer" on all listings?

01/30/2008 07:57 AM by Miriam Bernstein,Westchester County Real Estate (RE/MAX Prime Properties)


I really enjoyed this story Missy. You did your best and that's all we can ever do. 

01/30/2008 08:00 AM by Bryant Tutas-Tutas Towne Realty, Inc


Wow,,,only this morning I have a FSBo, who I DID NOT represent, call me to threaten to sue because I got her the asking price and nothing more...the buyers paid to clear the title, and paid all my commision, and all closing costs...So I am reading your Whole Story with renewed interest...I sure you are just glad its over!!

01/30/2008 08:02 AM by Mike Norvell Sr., Developers Capital Realty (Developers Capital Realty, LLC)


Missy, chilling from beginning to end. Remember that old TV commercial, "I'd rather fight than switch!" In real estate we can paraphrase that to "I'd rather fight than close." Some attorneys in my area have said that suing for performance is next to impossible and the EMD should be negotiated.

I just told a client yesterday that real estate is "50% financing and 50% intent." The buyers submitted all the documentation but never submited their heart, so to speak, to the purchase. Your three part series was true education. Wonderfully written!

01/30/2008 08:05 AM by Andrew J. Lenza (ABR*GRI*MBA) Monmouth County NJ Real Estate Broker (Andrew J. Lenza Realty)


I didn't believe that the buyers had a cause of action.  They simply defaulted and didn't want to take the responsibility. 

No sympathy here for the sellers.  They're too ignorant to waste sympathy on. 

Of course the attorney screwed you.  But, unless the attorney was a REALTOR, there is no limitation on them for advising their client to dump you and let them list the property.  An attorney can be a snake in the grass without being a REALTOR. 

I just don't see any surprises in the outcome.  Buyers lost their money as they should have.  Attorney received no big fees because they didn't earn anything.  Sellers lost as they should have because they didn't recognize good advice when they got it.  At least the judge had a brain.

Be glad that the E&O attorney fought rather than settled which they have a bad habit of doing. 

I'm sure you were glad to see an end to this nightmare.

 

01/30/2008 08:06 AM by Lenn Harley, Homefinders.com, MD & VA Real Estate


Missy, thanks for sharing it shows how clearly a line the Realtor must walk and how many hats we wear in what should be a simple transaction.  I'm glad you did emerge whole... although less $1,500.  ouch!

01/30/2008 08:16 AM by Gail Tassey (Keller Williams Realty)


Miriam, we only see that on foreclosure's. Not on regular listings, the appraisers do that.

Lenn, yes glad it was over. FYI this happened several years ago.

Andrew, thanks for you kind comments and inspiring the post.

Monika, I hope so that was the point.

Bill, yea a new agent...scary. But, hey I learned lessons too.

Mike, you're kidding right? Unbelievable.

got to go.... more commenting back later.  

 

 

01/30/2008 08:17 AM by Missy Caulk Ann Arbor Real Estate (Keller Williams Ann Arbor)


Missy, Everyone lost on that, what a shame and I'm so sorry to hear you were sued and it COST you money.  I'm sure the lessons you learned will always be with you now!!

01/30/2008 08:24 AM by Carole Provenzale Owner, Feng Shui Long Island & New York (Feng Shui Long Island & New York City)


How can you tell if an attorney is lying? Everybody knows the answer, so why would anyone list their home with one.

01/30/2008 08:49 AM by Nashville Real Estate Larry Brewer (Keller Williams - Franklin marker center)


Missy--My husband told me when I started that even when you do everything right, you can get sued. Yours was certainly a case in point. Thanks for sharing your experience...Though painful it is good that you were able to share so we could learn from your situation.

01/30/2008 09:19 AM by Teri Eckholm, Realtor® Anoka County MN (Keller Williams Premier Realty)


Missy,
And they wonder why we get grey hairs in this business....no one but another realtor realizes the half of what we go through. It certainly is not a career for the faint of heart.

Great story and lesson and I'm thankful to you for sharing it with us,

Jo 

01/30/2008 09:31 AM by Jo-Anne Smith-Belleville, Quinte and Prince Edward Region Real Estate, Ont. (Royal Lepage Proalliance Realty, Brokerage)


WOW!   you wrote "Did the attorney interfere with the agency relationship by listing the house?" If they broke their contract with YOU on the advice of their attorney who was also a real estate agent and then three weeks later listed with him, the fact that you withdrew it was a technicality IMHO.  He certainly was looking out for his best interest, not theirs.  

Your board should be aware of that sort of predatory behavior.   

I  am glad they got to keep the 10,000 earnest money deposit.   

01/30/2008 09:56 AM by Maureen McCabe - Central Ohio real estate (Real Living HER)


I have had some really crazy situations develop myself since becoming a Realtor but I have to say that 20 years as a band director in public schools had helped me prepare.  I was already accustomed to folks who felt the need to sue.  I guess there is no substitute for attention detail but sometimes, no matter how well you do your job, there is going to be a problem.  Congratulations for seeing the situation through and thanks for sharing your story, shame on the attorney and don't forget..."If it was easy, everyone would do it!" 

01/30/2008 10:01 AM by Laura McCulloch (Carousel Realty of Dyer County)


Missy

I am sorry this happened to you; I was here once and why I still do not understand. Stress, you bet.

My attorney spent a lot of time and money on something I did not have a part in. I was dropped from the whole thing over conformity and I wanond up not having any blame of it. Money and time; things that are hard to come by these days.

Hold your head up, and sell the whole State of Michigan.

Sincerely

Tom Braatz

01/30/2008 10:05 AM by Tom Braatz, South Eastern Wisconsin (Tom Braatz)


Missy,

WOW! Those kinds of life experiences are costly and gut wrenching, but we learn a lot from them!!! BTW, I've seen more than a few appraisals that had significant errors on them...and I'm sure some of our title commitments are in error...people are human...humans make mistakes!!! Thanks,   Fran

01/30/2008 10:07 AM by Fran 'The Title Man' Gaspari Title Insurance-PA & NJ (Patriot Land Transfer, Inc.)


Hi Missy,
What a messy situation and the sad thing is, there were no winners!  These type experiences are "lessons" that we never forget.  For the record, I think the attorney misused his "power" with these people.

01/30/2008 10:22 AM by Cynthia Tilghman, Realtor® Onslow County NC Home Specialist (Kingsbridge Realty, Inc)


Hi Missy - somehow I missed Parts 1 & 2, so will go back and read those.  What a bummer to have that happen, but your post and your experience on this are full of lessons for all of us.  Thanks for sharing all of this - you're right about "priceless".

Ann

01/30/2008 10:55 AM by Portsmouth NH Real Estate ~ Ann Cummings (RE/MAX Coast to Coast - Portsmouth New Hampshire)


Missy,  What a story.  But the fact is that we're dealing with human nature.  Our business is so interesting.  I've learned over the years to never get ahead of myself.  It ain't sold until we are walking away from the closing table.  But the truth alwasy comes out in the end.  The buyers had "buyer's remorse". They just did not want the house. I've been lucky to never have been sued.  I have a friend who's been sued several times.  You did your job well and obviuosly are not willing to mislead people.

01/30/2008 11:40 AM by Marc Grossman, GRI - Central Florida Real Estate Specialist (Keller Williams Premier Realty)


Missy: What a nightmare. It is such a shame that it is so easy to sue someone.

01/30/2008 12:25 PM by Jill Wente - Spring TX Real Estate (Prudential Gary Greene)


Wow, Missy...thanks for sharing this painful story.  :/

Right now I'm holding my breath and praying that my next deal goes through, as it's kind of touchy right now.

 

01/30/2008 12:25 PM by Lake Wallenpaupack Pike County PA Real Estate | Karen E Rice (WEICHERT, REALTORS® Paupack Group )


This was probably one of the best 'Series' I've read Missy.   Such an interesting story and you are right....the experience will prove priceless.

01/30/2008 12:28 PM by Jason Sardi, Pennsylvania Mortgage Broker (First Choice Equity Group Inc.)


Ok Missy,

After reading part 2, I see that part 3 went exactly where I thought.  Waste of lots of your valuable time, few $ of E&O, few more gray hairs, (of course you don't have those).  Good lesson that I will take to heart and make sure all of the new folks read and understand.  I can use this in a contract to close class.

Best thing is that you took the high road, did the best to protect your clients.  That means more than anything else.

List and Sell (and be wary of smarmy, weaselly attorneys)   Gary @ RentonHomeFinder

01/30/2008 01:29 PM by Gary McNinch Renton WA Real Estate (Keller Williams SES Renton )


You told the story well and gave us all insight into many things to be aware of when it comes to the correct sq/ft on a home.

01/30/2008 01:47 PM by Celeste "SALLY" Cheeseman (RA), e-PRO HAWAII Real Estate & HAWAII Relocation (Century 21 Liberty Homes -Mililani, Hawaii)


Missy,

That was a wonderfully told story even though it was a nightmare to go through. I agree with your statement regarding 4 measurements and they were all different. There needs to be a push for standardizing in how a house is measured, whether its someone from the county for tax purposes, an appraiser for appraisal purposes, or a RE Agent for listing purposes. I use the ANSI standards when measuring. I know many appraisers who use it and many who don't. Some appraisers round to the nearest half foot, some to the nearest foot, and some to the nearest 10th of an inch. American National Standards Institute is recognized & accepted by many players in the Real Estate Industry and would help lessen the confusion over the Sq Ft battle. Thank you for sharing your story with us.

Kenneth J Miller

www.miller-appraisals.net

01/30/2008 02:04 PM by Kenneth Miller, NW Ohio FHA Appraiser (Miller Appraisals)


Thanks for sharing this story. There are a few lessons within this one.

01/30/2008 02:19 PM by Jean Doyle Morris and Sussex NJ Real Estate (RE/MAX House Values)


Our MLS does not require that we put in square footage and most people don't.  We tend to use the amount listed on the assessor's database unless there was an addition of some sort.  Isn't there a clause that states the information is reliable, but not guaranteed?

01/30/2008 03:52 PM by Sherry Spengel | Wheaton IL (Prudential Spengel Realty)


That was a really interesting nail biter.  It is amazing how wrong things can go, even when you do everything right.  It's too bad your clients didn't believe in all that you did right...people can be so fickle.

01/30/2008 03:53 PM by Chelle Gassan-NOVA Realtor and Stager (Weichert, Realtors and Staged Homes VA)


Missy, how sad for all involved.  Isn't it just amazaing when they tell you; you had your chance after they didn't accept the offers.  I have had that happen also and anyway you look at it; it doesn't feel good.  It does sound like lessons were learned though and I always look at that as a good thing.

01/30/2008 05:30 PM by Marchel Peterson Spring TX Real Estate E-Pro ABR (Results Realty)


Hard to imagine Missy, but I must say I am with you....I do not get all excited when offers come inn either.   I had not heard of someone bailing over square footage before.  Nice post, thanks for  sharing.

01/30/2008 07:04 PM by Gary White~ Grand Rapids Real Estate, FLexIt Realty, a call or click away! (Flexit Realty~Serving West Michigan)


Missy this was a great series and very informative.  Thank you so much for sharing it.

01/30/2008 07:37 PM by Linda Futral Sells Coweta, Heard, Meriwether & Troup (RE/MAX Today)


I'm so glad everything worked out for you even if it cost $1500. Sometimes I think people are just litigation happy.

01/30/2008 07:58 PM by Maria Couto,ABR,CRS-Berkeley Heights & Long Hill Real Estate Homes for Sale (RE/MAX Classic Group-Berkeley Heights Realtor For Sale/Sold)


 Missy - some years ago our broker added a square foot disclaimer form to all of our contracts. Seems that someone missed 800 sq ft in a 2,000 sq ft house, the suit of which led to the CYA form. Anyway, it helps.

Thanks for your great comment on our penguin article earlier. That one was a gas putting together. Sharing it as you know is even more fun.

best 

01/30/2008 08:17 PM by Gary Bolen (CRS) Lake Tahoe Real Estate Information (Dickson Realty - South Lake Tahoe)


Oh Missy...WOW! I sure wish you had not had to learn that lesson THAT way. What an ordeal! Like you...I've learned some lessons the hard way. I promise that I've never forgotten the lessons I've learned. GBU!!

01/30/2008 08:41 PM by Elizabeth Nieves - Bilingual Raleigh - Durham North Carolina Real Estate Team (The Elizabeth Nieves Realty Group @ Keller Williams)


The whole situation is terrible.  I always tell my clients that my work just begins we get the offer- keeping it together has gotten tougher and tougher.  I am very sorry you had to deal with this.  It doesn't matter if it was a learning experience or not, it still stinks!

01/30/2008 10:39 PM by Ginger Wilcox, Marin County Realtor (Pacific Union, Marin Real Estate)


Missy - I am sad this happened to you..... but I am thrilled to learn from your troubles - as you started writing this - I took a listing that the county clearly had the sq ft wrong - a copy of the plans are included in my listing and are available for review - after reading this - I added - buyer to verify sq ft with their appraisal - thanks for the lesson - sorry it happened to such a great person

01/30/2008 10:53 PM by Central Oregon Real Estate | Thesa Chambers, Broker (RE/MAX Sunset Realty La Pine)


I am so sorry that this happened to you. Yes, you're right, despite our best efforts sometimes, a closing doesn't always happen. You worked hard for those sellers - but it goes to show you that some folks just don't have any loyalty.

01/31/2008 12:07 AM by Darleen McCullen, Broker-Raleigh, NC Real Estate (Keller Williams Realty - www.darleenmc.com)


Missy,  I have to go read parts 1 & 2 but what a story.  Wow, it would have been better for them to close on the home and then resell if they changed their mind.  It would have saved them financially as well as time with the lawsuit and all the emotional difficulties.

 

01/31/2008 06:40 AM by Karen Moorhead Ann Arbor Area Real Estate (Keller Williams Realty)


Missy~

 Yet another reason why I subscribe to your BLOG. You tell a great true tale..and one that is shared so generously. You can bet I will be suggesting to the Brokers who work at my Firm that they would  benefit from reading this... I've bookmarked it and recommended it be featured.

01/31/2008 07:10 AM by Asheville's GREEN Land & Homes ECO-Steward Realty


Oh Missy!  What doesn't kill us makes us stronger!   You did everything you could and in the end you know that!   What a horrible ordeal.

01/31/2008 07:35 AM by Allison Stewart REALTOR ®St. Cloud Florida (Florida Pines Realty, Inc)


Wow, what an ordeal!  Now I'm going to have to go back and read parts 1 and 2. 

01/31/2008 07:45 AM by Jeannie Kontis - Lancaster Real Estate, Lancaster PA Homes for Sale (Long & Foster Real Estate, Lancaster PA)


Thanks for the very interesting story. I appreciate the time you took to report the story.  All of your readers will think about this any time we are dealing with measurements.

 

01/31/2008 08:13 AM by Susie Blackmon NC Realtor, Maggie Valley, Waynesville (COLDWELL BANKER)


Wow Missy, what an ordeal and a lesson learned the hard way. Thank you for sharing, it may save many others from the same issue. I have always felt safe listing at what ythe previous appraisal said for sq. ft. I will read the appraisal end to end now. Whew..what a drama to go through. Glad you were cleared, as you did not do anything, but wjat a bummer to expend the energy and bring the buyers and then get this? Plus the listing taken away. Thanks for sharing this!

01/31/2008 09:24 AM by Brentwood TN Real Estate/Homes - Vanessa Stalets REALTOR® (RE/MAX Elite)


 

Missy,

 Interesting story. I think I know how you felt at various times when reading it.

The good news is that for me the low points in this business just serve to make the high points so much sweeter!

02/01/2008 10:43 AM by Jon Boyd


Missy...You were blindsided when you least expected it.  Sometimes it seems we're just one transaction away from a disaster. 

I'm so relieved to know that you were dropped from the suit but it must have been a very stressful time.  I don't think anything prepares us for things like this.

And it is very hurtful when you give so much of yourself and want the best for your client, to not receive the same in return.  It's as though they try hard not to understand the impact their actions have on us.

I will now read Andrew Lenza's post mentioned above and some others too.

Take care,

Kathleen

02/01/2008 11:41 PM by Kathleen "Kate" Elim, LAKE ANNA, VA Real Estate (RE/MAX Lake & Country)


Missy -This is the type of situation we hate to find ourselves in.  You can hold your head high because you did your best.  And even when we go above and beyond sometimes we end up not getting paid, this week I had one of those experience.

02/02/2008 05:38 AM by Jennifer Fivelsdal, Rhinebeck NY (Keller Williams Realty)


Awesome story!  Read all 3 parts this morning!  I have found there is a learning curve in everything we do! If we don't make mistakes or come upon obstacles we will never learn from the outcome.  If anyone claims to be perfect and has never had a dramatic transaction they haven't been in the business long enough.  You handled everything like the professional you obviously are,  Kudos to you!

02/02/2008 09:55 AM by Kelly Shoemaker Realtor Broken Arrow, OK (Coldwell Banker SELECT)


Awesome story!  Read all 3 parts this morning!  I have found there is a learning curve in everything we do! If we don't make mistakes or come upon obstacles we will never learn from the outcome.  If anyone claims to be perfect and has never had a dramatic transaction they haven't been in the business long enough.  You handled everything like the professional you obviously are,  Kudos to you!

02/02/2008 09:55 AM by Kelly Shoemaker Realtor Broken Arrow, OK (Coldwell Banker SELECT)


Awesome story!  Read all 3 parts this morning!  I have found there is a learning curve in everything we do! If we don't make mistakes or come upon obstacles we will never learn from the outcome.  If anyone claims to be perfect and has never had a dramatic transaction they haven't been in the business long enough.  You handled everything like the professional you obviously are,  Kudos to you!

02/02/2008 09:56 AM by Kelly Shoemaker Realtor Broken Arrow, OK (Coldwell Banker SELECT)


Amazing.  People never cease to amaze me.  Buyers have this notion that they can change their mind at any time.  Well they can - it's just that sometimes there are consequences!

No one really wins when it goes to court. 

02/02/2008 01:37 PM by James Downing - REALTOR® - Washington DC Real Estate (Coldwell Banker Residential Brokerage)


Thanks for sharing the story and allowing all of us to gain experience from your lessons learned.  I just did a BPO and the previous listing ticket and public records had a big gap.  At this point, I don't need to know but if I were listing it, I would want to make sure - from your story, this will always be firm in my mind.

02/02/2008 02:32 PM by Cathy Tishhouse Royal Oak Real Estate (RE/MAX Showcase Homes)


Thanks for sharing the story and allowing all of us to gain experience from your lessons learned.  I just did a BPO and the previous listing ticket and public records had a big gap.  At this point, I don't need to know but if I were listing it, I would want to make sure - from your story, this will always be firm in my mind.

02/02/2008 02:34 PM by Cathy Tishhouse Royal Oak Real Estate (RE/MAX Showcase Homes)


Missy, it's lawsuits like the one you described that made me get out of litigation. To this day, I tell all of my law clients that no one really wins in court.

02/02/2008 09:14 PM by Lee Morof, Associate Broker/Attorney (RE/MAX Showcase Homes)


Missy,

You have my sympathy. No matter whose fault it is litigation is always a nightmare and the impact can be felt for a long time after the dust settles. I think a quote from Shakespeare is in order here.

                                                

                                                   "First kill all the lawyers" 

02/02/2008 10:33 PM by Susan Peters - Seattle Realtor/Staging Specialist (Re/Max Mutual Realty)


Oh Missy,

 I am so sorry that happened to you.  That lawyer sounds like a piece of work. 

02/03/2008 01:08 AM by Laurie Logan-South Central WI Real Estate (RE/MAX Preferred - Broker Manager)


Thanks for all your comments on this post and hopefully it was a learning experience, I sure learned a lot. It did happen over 5 years ago and now I only use the square feet from the assessor or look at the appraisal and see that they didn't measure the AIR. 

It was also good that I had the documentation, had the seller not been able to show the appraisal with the square feet I posted, they might have been able to prove fraud. Which I would never do, but they didn't know that.

I don't think anyone really won in this case. I'm sure my sellers 10,000 EMD was spent defending themselves and they lost the house is foreclosure. The buyer just changed his mind and tried to find a way out. Unfortunately the first attorney should have told him to buy the house and not taken the case or come back with a different amount to settle the difference.  No telling how much he lost in money trying to get  the money back with attorney fees.

 

02/03/2008 12:29 PM by Missy Caulk Ann Arbor Real Estate (Keller Williams Ann Arbor)


Missy,

Thanks for sharing.  I have had a similar situation that ended much better.  I will post it for the sake of comparison. 

02/03/2008 01:29 PM by Bill Schwent - Santa Fe broker (RE/MAX Capital)


Missy, Thanks for this series of blogs. Being new to real estate, this kind of story is a very valuable learning tool.

02/04/2008 02:39 PM by Ann Cordes


Missy- What a nightmare. I am in a similar case, but it has to do with buyer fraud. That's why they lost their EMD. It's messy and time consuming.Navigating these waters is treacherous. Great Cliffhanger

02/08/2008 11:15 AM by Mark Horan P.A. "The Resident Chef" at Keller Williams (The Resident Team at Keller Williams At-The-Lakes)


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