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A San Jose Short Sale Agent Said I Can't Be Forced Out of My Home

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Real Estate Broker/Owner with KD Realty - 408.972.1822 CA DRE#01366594

A San Jose short sale agent told a homeowner no one can force him out of his home.

Legal ScaleA San Jose short sale agent is not an attorney and is not licensed to give legal advice. Any legal advice given by a San Jose short sale agent is bad advice unless perhaps the agent is an attorney licensed to practice in the State of California.

Let's look at the context in which the statement was made.

The seller is retiring in January 2014. That is approximately one year from now. Once the seller retires he will no longer be able to make the mortgage payment. The seller was inquiring about a short sale and wanted to get started right away. The seller has two loans on the property with two different lenders. If I were to list the home for sale now, given my track record, I would likely have approval in 90 days or less, most likely less, and we would close escrow in the May-June time frame.

The seller's intention is to stay in the property until he retires. I explained that even if he could, in other words the lenders do not disallow it, he would need to ensure the property was sold to an investor with a prior agreement that he will be able to rent back at the current rental market rate. No problem there. It would be easy to find an investor buyer who would be willing to rent the property back to the seller.

Here is the catch.The seller's intention is to stay in the property for ..... F R E E!

Add that to the fact that renting back to a seller does not constitute an arm's length transaction which all lenders require on short sales and this San Jose short sale agent thinks there is a problem.

The agent he previously spoke with told him "you can't be forced out of your home."

Man looking at sign with right and wrong directionalI am NOT an attorney. What follows is my opinion regarding the statement. IT'S JUST WRONG!

Why would a San Jose short sale agent make such a statement? I don't know the answer to that question so I will leave it to you to decide.

That said, my thoughts are the agent was not addressing the sellers needs. It seems to me the agent either did not know what the heck he was talking about and/or the agent simply wanted to take the listing so the agent's needs were met.

If the seller believed what the San Jose short sale agent told him and chose to hire the agent based upon that belief, I am reasonably certain that when it came time to close escrow the seller would be in for a rude awakening. While I am not an attorney, I do know that there are legal remedies to remove people from homes when they do not have a lawful right to be there.

A San Jose Short Sale Agent Said I Can't Be Forced Out of My Home, by Kathleen Daniels

 

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Comments(19)

Dorie Dillard Austin TX
Coldwell Banker Realty ~ 512.750.6899 - Austin, TX
NW Austin ~ Canyon Creek and Spicewood/Balcones

Hi Kathleen,

OMG such bad information to give to someone retired. Of course they want to believe it is true so believe it!! His real estate license needs to be lifted!

Jan 16, 2013 09:10 AM
Debbie Reynolds, C21 Platinum Properties
Platinum Properties- (931)771-9070 - Clarksville, TN
The Dedicated Clarksville TN Realtor-(931)320-6730

Kathleen, I have found there are agents out there that will say almost anything to get the listing or they are speaking entirely out of just plain ignorance and they shouldn't.

Jan 16, 2013 09:57 AM
Jeanne Kozak
RE/MAX In Action - Martinsburg, WV
REALTOR and Broker/Owner in WV and VA

I hope that agent has a good E & O policy and an understanding Broker...they are going to need it.

Jan 16, 2013 10:07 AM
Kathleen Daniels, Probate & Trust Specialist
KD Realty - 408.972.1822 - San Jose, CA
Probate Real Estate Services

Dorie, The more time I spend working short sales the crazier my world seems to get.Thanks for your comment.

Debbie, This is where training needs to happen. It's our duty to know! Thanks for your comment.

Jeanne, Very good point!  The broker shoud make sure agents are trained. Ignorance is not a defense! Thanks for your comment.

Jan 16, 2013 10:16 AM
Melissa Brown
Helen Adams Realty - Charlotte, NC
Realtor - South Charlotte NC Homes for Sale

Wow.  Just wow.  Did the seller act like he believed that other agent?  Sellers contemplating a short sale in San Jose would be so wise to hire someone like you who knows what they are doing and doesn't make idiotic statements just to get a listing.  Keep us posted!

Jan 16, 2013 11:02 AM
Sussie Sutton
David Tracy Real Estate - Houston, TX
David Tracy Real Estate for Buyers & Sellers

This is a great post! could there be a possible chance that the seller misunderstood the agent?

Jan 16, 2013 11:56 AM
Kathy Streib
Cypress, TX
Home Stager/Redesign

Kathleen- people will hear what they want to hear. Agents, all of us, must remember to put filters on what we say.  

Jan 16, 2013 12:02 PM
Joy Daniels
Joy Daniels Real Estate Group, Ltd. - Harrisburg, PA
I'm with Jeanne....that's definitely practicing law. Even when I am tempted to give a. "Legal" response, I don't...it's not worth my license, great post
Jan 16, 2013 12:09 PM
Kathleen Daniels, Probate & Trust Specialist
KD Realty - 408.972.1822 - San Jose, CA
Probate Real Estate Services

Melissa,  I got the impression the seller may have believed but was looking for validation from me.  I told him I was very concerned about an agent who would say such a thing.

Sussie,  I guess there is always that possibility.  I consulted with the seller initially in October 2012.  I spoke with him again earlier this year and again after he spoke with the other agent.  The seller said he does not think the agent cares about him like I do.  I just want to set the right expectations ... and be honest. 

Kathy, And we must disclaim, disclose and refer to someone who holds a license to give advice we are not licensed to give.

Joy, I was a litigating paralegal for 15 years. I once had an attorney accuse me of practicing law without a license. Nothing came of the accusation because of course I was not overstepping the scope of my role as a paralegal. It is not worth sacrificing my livelihood or causing someone harm by giving bad advice.

Jan 16, 2013 01:05 PM
David Grbich
Realty One Group - www.FindCARealEstate.com - San Juan Capistrano, CA
Orange County Real Estate - 949-500-0484

Hi Kathleen, real estate agents have a great deal of liability and it's best to not take on the role of a lawyer!! Great post and great advice. Regards Dave

Jan 17, 2013 01:00 AM
Carla Muss-Jacobs, RETIRED
RETIRED / State License is Inactive - Portland, OR

You try to set them straight, but many don't want to listen, or want to listen to only what they want to hear.  I just got off the phone with someone who would fit that bill . . .

Jan 17, 2013 06:45 AM
John Juarez
The Medford Real Estate Team - Fremont, CA
ePRO, SRES, GRI, PMN

Kathleen,

 

Would you please put me in touch with that agent? I, too, would like to live in my house for free for as long as I please.

Jan 17, 2013 12:33 PM
MichelleCherie Carr Crowe .Just Call. 408-252-8900
Get Results Team...Just Call (408) 252-8900! . DRE #00901962 . Licensed to Sell since 1985 . Altas Realty - San Jose, CA
Family Helping Families Buy & Sell Homes 40+ Years

Sounds like someone may have a questionable RE license as well.

Jan 17, 2013 03:50 PM
Kathleen Daniels, Probate & Trust Specialist
KD Realty - 408.972.1822 - San Jose, CA
Probate Real Estate Services

David, It is certainly not one I will take on. Thanks for stopping by.

Carla, I can’t count the number of times I have stated something to a client heard what I had to say … but they come back with: “I know you said you can’t tell me to stop making my payments, but do you think I should?” 

John, LOL … funny.  Good point.  Thanks for stopping by.

Michelle, Either they don’t know or don’t care. Neither is acceptable. Thanks for your comment.

 

Jan 18, 2013 11:31 AM
Joan Cox
House to Home, Inc. - Denver Real Estate - 720-231-6373 - Denver, CO
Denver Real Estate - Selling One Home at a Time

Kathleen, the world of SHORT SALES is definitely different than regular sales.     Living FREE is not an option.

Jan 19, 2013 04:19 AM
Curtis Van Carter
Better Homes & Gardens Wine Country Group - Yountville, CA
Your Napa Valley Broker Extraordinaire

Kathleen

To anyone reading this, this is why it is so important to a great agent who knows what they are doing. If you want the best short agent in the area, look no further, cheers cvc

Jan 21, 2013 11:32 PM
Kathleen Daniels, Probate & Trust Specialist
KD Realty - 408.972.1822 - San Jose, CA
Probate Real Estate Services

Joan,  I'd like to believe that most people understand that living free is not an option ... unless of course we are referring to other government programs. 

Curtis, Thank you! I appreciate your endorsement.  Now that debt forgiveness is extended ... we will see more folks seeking help with short sales in 2103.

Jan 22, 2013 10:59 AM
Eagle Ridge Realty
Eagle Ridge Realty - Gilroy, CA
"Our Performance Will Move You!"

Kathleen-- Good stuff!  Keep at it, we like what you post  and find the information useful.

Dec 27, 2016 05:21 PM
The Villages Realty
The Villages Realty - San Jose, CA
"Our Performance Will Move You!"

Kathleen-- Good stuff!  Keep at it, we like what you post  and find the information useful.

Dec 27, 2016 05:30 PM