I've written about the danger of depending upon Home Equity Lines Of Credit, HELOC's, before. I was concerned about depending upon your HELOC for access to cash when making an offer, I'd suggested that even though you have the HELOC available you always make your offers contingent upon the loan, to avoid defaulting on an offer because of some unknown problem with the HELOC.

More recently I've warned about the fallacy, and the fales hope of the so called Money Merge accounts. Among the problem with these scrams was the potential danger of depending upon the HELOC for cash reserves, the danger of having to ask for money in a time of need, as compared to keeping reasonable money in a demand account.

Evidently the day has come! Countrywide  may have started to arbitraly terminate some HELOCs! See Did Countrywide Freeze Your Home Equity Line of Credit?

I don't know what Countrywide or any other lender is up to, the suggestion is that they are reassesing falling real estate values, that's reasonable.

My concern is with people making offers they can't fund and those who've foolishly replaced their security with a dependance on HELOC's!

Bill

William J Archambault Jr

The Real Estate Investment Institutes

More news see:  HELOC lock downs become more extensive

 
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9 Comments on False Security / False Hope

Bill, I agree with you that if you have a HELOC you should borrow the max out of it and then "invest" the proceeds in some kind of other asset where the money could be accessed if necessary. Why take a chance on a lender who may "cancel" or "freeze" your line of credit?

Bill Roberts

01/30/2008 12:09 PM by Bill Roberts - "Baby Boomer" Retirement Planning (Brooks and Dunphy Real Estate)


Ouch!! I took out a HELOC last year and maxed it out the next day. I did just as Bill Roberts suggested and placed in an easily accessible investment. I never really gave it much thought it just seemed to make sense.

01/30/2008 03:44 PM by Bryant Tutas-Tutas Towne Realty, Inc


Bill R. and Bryan,

Makes you think doesn't it.

We use to use short term notes (30 to 180 days) with only a promise thet the bank would renew them.

We use to be stupid!

Those Money Merge people still are.

HELOCs are a great tool for many people, but you can't depende on the bank.

Bill

01/30/2008 06:56 PM by William J Archambault Jr (The Real Estate Investment Institute )


From money.cnn:

"To head off more defaults, Countywide sent out letters to 122,000 homeowners last week informing them that their home equity credit lines were shut down since their estimated home values had dropped below their loan amounts."

So, here's my advice:

Take the money while you can and set your house on fire!!!

Home equity credit lines: seeing through the fine print 

 

02/20/2008 08:09 PM by borna


Borna,

Great information.

To bad I can't say the same about your final though.

Bill

02/20/2008 08:19 PM by William J Archambault Jr (The Real Estate Investment Institute )


The Washington Post had an article last week about how local banks are terminating HELOCS by the thousands, even people with good credit.  Some people are so paranoid about losing that access to credit that they are tapping-out their credit lines just to be sure they have the money available as they counted on their HELOC to be an emergency fund.

02/27/2008 06:10 PM by Fred


Tred,

Thank you.

There are still people selling this money merage non-sense! You may just have save many people.

Bill

02/27/2008 08:19 PM by William J Archambault Jr (The Real Estate Investment Institute )


Here is a new wrinkle - National City is now not allowing people to refinance their 1st mortgage and keep their reduced HELOC in 2nd lien position (basically no subordinations).  I would imagine that this concept will grow and other banks will follow suit soon.

03/04/2008 04:08 PM by Jim Cunningham (Community First Financial)


Jim,

That sounds like an all round winner! By reducing the "First" the home owner will be more likely to be able to keep up the HELOC. Did they leave the HELOC open or did they freeze new draws?

Thanks Jim,

Bill

03/04/2008 04:17 PM by William J Archambault Jr (The Real Estate Investment Institute )


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