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17 Comments on Consumer Financial Protection Bureau Qualified Mortgage Rules (QM)
I would have thought that the d to i ratio would have been frozen at 36 to make things even tougher. I wonder if the yield spread premium was eliminated, and cash back from the mortgage broker after the ysp settlement. Even with the tough restrictions in place they're better than a mandatory 20% downpayment, which, of course, would have eliminated the pmi.
The point you have made a couple of different times, the folks that have made these along with other proposals, don't have a clue about the mortgage business. More is being done to harm the consumer, who they keep saying the want to protect.
For the next 12 months we'll address the various topics from every possible direction.
George, I don't think the rule makers actually know how this works. They will make it very hard for people to purchase homes
WE'RE DOOMED!!
Many present day tenants to whom I sell homes are already paying up to 50% of their income for RENT. Yet, they would not qualify for a mortgage payment of more than 43% of their income, even with no additional debt.
The problem with politically designed government agencies or departments is that they are designed by political hacks who have no comprehension of financial or actuarial realities.
Hi George:
I am not actively engaged in the mortgage lending business, but I still read your post with great interest. I was surprised to read that the debt-to-income limit was lowered to 43%. What ever happened to the 28/36 qualifying rule for conventional Fannie Maes? Does your reference to 43% have to do with LTV ratios greater than 80%? I just responded to another post that suggested as real estate agents we should always be learning, so, okay, please help me get this.
George, if this is helping the consumer, they don't need any more help. They really don't have a clue.
George, already my buyers are stating their take home pay was decreased severely after the 1st of the year, this just added more pressure.
The moral of the story is always the same. When you create a system that removes discretion and judgment on the part of people who know best, you assure that you'll serve fewer people with less.
A 43% debt ratio may be entirely manageable in the hands of one borrower while a 38% ratio could be doomsday for another. Locking in the number for the industry does very little to protect the individual OR the many, it just, as I say above, limits the options for those who would otherwise make that call using the knowledge gained via years of hands-on experience.
We will find a way to work with these handcuffs too, however. We always do.
George will this apply to government loans such as FHA, VA and USDA?
I posted two years ago that the government involvement would be our doom. so far it appears that we are on track to prove me right. Great post George, always enjoy reading them.
David, 36% Total Debt-To-Income has not been the standard for a long time now, in fact in 2009 FHA,Fannie Mae, and Freddie Mac was up to 65%+ which was WAY to high. Requiring 20% would have been another mistake, and you are right would have taken even more buyers out of the market. As far as the YSP question I will let Brokers answer that one.
Joe I have two more blogs on this and then I will give it a rest for a little bit, but just like you I intend to right a lot more about their proposal throughout 2013
Frank my next two blogs will make that point even more.
Lenn, I don't think we are doomed, but only because we are a country made up of survivors, and you and I will make things work with our Buyers & Borrowers in spite of all the obstacles they through at us. Having said that, DOOMED is the direction that they are trying to take us.
Randy as I commented to David (comment #1) 36% has not been the standard for a long time now, especially after Automated Underwriting came into existence. I will try to explain in my next two blogs how actually 43% Debt-To-Income Ratio maybe more restrictive than the 36% back in the 60's, 70's, & 80's.
Michael, yes they need to stop helping us :)
Joan you are absolutely right, take home pay is being reduced more and more with higher Federal and State Taxes, and with the implementation of Obama Care it will be reduce even more.
Rob EXCELLENT comment. You nailed it.
Shay it is across the board, ALL programs, which does not make any sense because not all programs calculate the same debt into the Debt-To-Income Ratios as I will point out in the my next two blogs, especially the second one of the two.
Chuck I am sure that you hoped you would be wrong on that, but unfortunately what you stated is coming true.
Excellent post George. When I was reading the CFPB's proposal on this , my first two thoughts were.
1.) There are considering exemptions to this for the community developments & non-profit lenders. What does the lender type have to do with whether a borrower can afford a pymt. or not??? INSANE!!
2.) Bubba, now really has to go his Mortgage loan before he goes and gets that $800 a month Truck pymt!!
Greg that is an excellent point, I have not hit on that so I am glad that you are bring it up.
George - This is something I was discussing the other day as it just isn't going to help in the ways I believe they expect it will.
We just heard about this last night. It's going to disqualify alot of people looking to become first time home buyers.
more government solutions to problems in which the solution is worse than the problem they seek to resolve
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