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47 Comments on When Is It Too Cold To Paint Outdoors?
Joe -- Moving to New England from California several years ago.. upon our first visit to the paint store, the salesperson made us aware of the importance of making sure the temperature was not too cold.
Jay - excellent blog post.... as you say, professionals should know when/when not to paint outoors..
Jay, you just answered a question I was about to Google. I have a small painting job that got put on hold because, well, Winter showed up and I didn't. So, I was wondering what the minimal temperature is to paint out doors. I guess I'll wait a little longer. 8=)
I see a market for cold weather paint. We could make millions!
Even my wife knows this. OK, it's because I tell her that's why I can't paint the house.
Jay, even people in Florida know that you can't paint below certain temperatures! This builder is clearly acting in their own best interest - or the subcontractor is. Won't it be fun when the sub has to come back out to repaint when the paint starts peeling during the warranty??
sharon
When you see unprofessional work like that being done, you should next time stop and have a slight general conversation with them and get there info... That way you can put that company on your "black list".
Well Jay I learned something about paint today that I did not know. he wife usually does the painting and I get involved if only on a have to basis.
Kathy - if the supervisor doesn't do it, who will?
Glad you do Tom. There are reasons for labels!
Richie - there is more to most everything in life behond popping the lid. Well, except peanut butter...
Scott - but a "professional" would know this without reading the label, right?
Debbie - he knows and honors that because he is a professional painter.
Monica - I hope you learn something new every day! I learned about Feng Shui once, the hard way. Did you see my post?
http://activerain.com/blogsview/1012976/my-funniest-inspection-well-for-me-not-the-realtor
Mike - consumers don't know about this stuff. That's what their home inspector is supposed to do for them.
Fred - when the Spidey Sense goes off, it does for a reason. Like the robot waving his arms, "Danger! Danger!"
Brian - with good temps and humidity latex needs about 4 hours to dry.
Melissa - I assure you they won't do it twice!
B&B - and like I said to her, the liklihood of getting them back is minimal to none.
Gee, Than, what are you thinking? Ummm...
Paula - and just when you think it won't get cold, someone will be at your house to paint and...
Chris Ann - not much time left. Got to get to that other state!
Robert - you guys must do stuff furiously when the temperatures allow. Hurry up and don't wait!
S&L - I'm very glad you find it informative! I think it's time for me to go coalesce some hot chocolate... And maybe some oatmeal to surfactant to my ribs?
Thank you Susan. I expect it won't help you too much down there!
And thank you Kent. I love sharing.
Aw, send her out there anyway Rich, gloves or no gloves. Keep her busy!
That it would Sue. They haven't invented that magical paint yet.
Marc - I just put that into my phone's temperature converter app and it says that's 50F. So your labels are consistent with ours. Right on!
Gary - isn't it always following the money that gets you to the truth?
Joan - that is a circumspect clerk! And a helpful one.
Gay - when you hire a "professional" company, they should be just that.
Mike - even during a 50 degree day, like yesterday for a while, if the paint isn't dry enough before it dips below that the job is ruined.
Rob - I think our logo should have an igloo on it, and a painter standing on a walrus instead of a ladder. Whatcha think?
Rafi - what's her email? I will send her a link to the blog... (Oh, photos please)
Sharon - and they know that without the reasons there that we have here!
Steve - the trucks usually have names on the sides, and I do keep a list!
James - and get her out there! Work to be done!
In many cases, but not all, the owner of the painting crew actually does know that they should not pain when the temperature is too low. Unfortunately the workers that are applying the paint probably are not aware of this. What is worse, the superintendent in most cases does not know it is a problem. Too many of the superintendents only know that they have a schedule to meet, and the work had better be done acording to the schedule!
Here if Florida during the summer the problem is more that they are painting when the temperature is too high. Even with a paint such as the one you mentioned that allows it to be applied up to 125 degrees (although I have seen a number of paints that say not apply them if the temperature is over 90 degrees) you can easily exceed the limit. I am not saying that the outside temperature is over 125. The temperature limit is the "surface" temperature. With the temperature outside at 95 degrees, that wall that the sun is shining brightly on will be much hotter. This will cause the paint to dry out too quickly where it contacts the surface and it will never achieve the proper bond. Good post.
Robert - one other thing I pointed out here is the same old, same old insulation thing - not enough to meet the stated R-value. This supervisor told my client not to worry, that it is cellulose insulation with plenty of depth. Well, NOT! I told my client to have him call me. Still waiting for the phone to ring. If he doesn't know it's too cold for paint he should not be building houses. And the label for this paint says 125F, so it is consistent here with your standards there. And yes, that label doesn't mean 125F for outside temps!
The painter is painting the Igloo? Sounds like a good way to get the point across.
Sure, make the point that the paint can be applied in temps as low as -60.
All tooo common here...there are orders from VA or FHA to address peeling paint...yeah right...it is whatever below zero...and these folks were ordered to do the same without knowing "the rules" that apply to paint and weather...brrrrrr....
S&D - when I was a contractor the VA ordered a seller to paint their house. It was near zero here, very cold for here, and yet they asked me to paint outdoors.
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