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Real Estate Agents Fail Home Sellers Over Carrying Cost? OR DO THEY???

Reblogger Lenn Harley
Real Estate Agent with Lenn Harley, Homefinders.com, MD & VA Homes and Real Estate 303829;0225082372

CARRYING COSTS IN A NET SHEET?  Sure, but don't forget to offset the benefit of having only Lennone mortgage payment.

CARRYING COSTS to the seller are important, IF they have relocated and, in addition to the carrying costs on the property for sale, are also paying rent or mortgage, etc. on a second lodging.

HOWEVER, if the owner/seller is still occupying and plans to stay until settlement, seems to me that the "CARRYING COSTS" for a property listing is REDUCED by money NOT spent by the owner/seller for rent elsewhere or new house payment on new purchase.

If monthly "carrying costs" include the mortgge payment, real estate taxes/ins, utilities, maintenance/repair. . . .

then surely, those costs are offset by the same items NOT paid elsewhere.

After all, doesn't the owner/seller have the same living expenses where ever they are, either in their home for sale OR elsewhere???

Mmmmmmm.

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Original content by Mike Schmidt RB14038403

Real Estate Agents Fail Home Sellers Over Carrying Cost. Where do I even begin here? Real estate agents say they’re all about doing right by their seller clients, but far too many times they are only setting them up to fail. This isn’t about marketing style or convincing a seller that an agent or her company is the biggest and the best. Home sellers, this is about your money.

On the selfish side, a lot of agents will say anything to secure a listing from a home seller. From showering them with nothing but compliments about their home to giving them an unrealistically high price to put the house on the market for, some agents will stop at nothing to “buy” a listing. Ethically, this turns my stomach. But for purposes of this post, I want to talk about a little thing that most agents fail to include when discussing price and how much a seller might expect to net upon sale. It’s called carrying cost.

Your carrying cost is simply how much you spend on your house from the time it is listed until the time it is sold and typically include your mortgage payment, taxes and insurance, utilities, and any maintenance and repair which must be done on the property.

When you meet with a real estate agent about listing your house, he or she will typically go over something called a Seller’s Net Sheet. This usually takes the price of your house minus your mortgage balance, broker commission, taxes and closing costs to give you a rough idea of what you can expect to get (or owe) at closing. There can be problems right off the bat here because often the agent will base your net from the list price, not the anticipated sale price. You should always ask for net sheets with multiple sales scenarios. And probably 99 times out of 100, carrying cost will not be factored in but it is very important in gauging the cost of selling your home.

To determine monthly carrying costs, add the following:

  • mortgage
  • real estate taxes and insurance
  • total utilities
  • maintenance and repair (HUD estimates this comes to between 1 & 3% of a home’s value per year)

Every thirty days that your house goes unsold, you should subtract the total carrying costs from your anticipated net.

Why is this important? Because many times, home sellers (with the help of their agent) will price their house too high. They might try to justify the price by thinking that they will make more money from the sale, aren’t in a hurry to sell or they can wait until the market comes to them. Soon though, they begin to ask their agent why their house isn’t moving. “The market’s slow,” or, “you need to lower your price,” they’re told. Critical days are wasted as the house become a stale listing and is used to sell other properties with better values-to-price by comparison.

I didn’t mean this post to morph into a “proper pricing” lecture, but by far that is the single reason homes languish on the market. Carrying cost over time can compound this problem as shown in this example:

Market Value: $180,000

List Price: $200,000

Carrying Cost/Month: $2,500

Sells 6 months later at $180,000; closes 30 days after signed agreement

Basic Net (sale price of $180,000 – 7 months carrying costs of $17,500): $162,500

Now, with a realistic, competitive price:

Market Value: $180,000

List Price: $185,000

Carrying Cost/Month: $2,500

Sells 1 month later at $180,000; closes 30 days after signed agreement

Basic Net (sale price of $180,000 – 2 months carrying costs of $5,000): $175,000

The carrying cost number, when added to the usual ‘”seller net sheet” costs, gives a truer idea of real net.

You can see how important it is to know your carrying cost, especially in relation to a home’s list price. You might think that asking $15,000 more in the beginning will get you more money at closing, but really it can cost you a lot more as the home remains unsold. Another thing to keep in mind is the possibility of things going wrong with the property the longer it’s on the market (unforeseen major repairs like an air conditioner, water heater, etc.) that can be avoided the faster the house is sold.

In conclusion, a few tips to keep in mind as you think about selling your home:

  1. Know your monthly carrying cost.
  2. Don’t jump at the first agent who offers pie-in-the-sky pricing; who tells you only what they think you want to hear.
  3. Price your home so it offers the most value for the money compared to its competition, based on solid market data.

While not unethical, failing to educate home sellers about carrying cost and not factoring them into calculations up front is unprofessional, and can cause the sellers to leave a lot of money on the table. Always interview with more than one agent and use the REALTOR® who does his homework for you.

Mike Schmidt, Realtor

EXIT Realty One

Brownsburg, IN

(317) 652-5157

www.lookhomewise.com

www.facebook.com/exitoneindy

 

 

 

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Comments(8)

Fred Griffin Florida Real Estate
Fred Griffin Real Estate - Tallahassee, FL
Licensed Florida Real Estate Broker

Interesting concept...  but I must agree with Lenn, if this is their ONLY Mortgage payment, is it really a "Cost"?

FWIW, I stopped doing "Net Sheets" a long time ago.  They are not required (in Florida); why expose yourself to the added risk/liability?

Jan 29, 2013 11:34 PM
Brenda Mullen
RE/MAX Associates - San Antonio, TX
Your San Antonio TX Real Estate Agent!!

Hmmm, I think proper pricing is important but I am not adding "carrying costs" to my net sheets.  I talk to my sellers about pricing too high and what will happen, either they get it or they don't.  I do two net sheets and both are signed by my clients..one at the time of the listing for approximate net...and one at the time of offer with APPROXIMATE net...

No matter when their home sells, their net is their net, we don't focus on loss...and I agree, not a carrying cost when you are living there...

Jan 29, 2013 11:41 PM
Lenn Harley
Lenn Harley, Homefinders.com, MD & VA Homes and Real Estate - Leesburg, VA
Real Estate Broker - Virginia & Maryland

Fred.  I've heard this "carrying cost" thing for 25 years.  I didn't buy it then.  Don't buy it now. 

Of course, if a party has already moved, it is important.

Brenda.  The time when a net sheet is important is when you have an offer with price, terms and condition (repairs).

Jan 30, 2013 02:40 AM
George Souto
George Souto NMLS #65149 FHA, CHFA, VA Mortgages - Middletown, CT
Your Connecticut Mortgage Expert

Lenn, Carrying Costs only make sense to me if Mike is talking about an investment property, and even then it is very grayish.  If a Seller is selling their principle residence, their monthly costs do not change unless the property does not sell before the purchase the new property and they end up carrying two mortgages.  But even the existing mortgage is figured into the back/bottom debt-to-income ratio and not subtracted out of anticipated net proceeds from the sale.  It seems to me that including Carrying Costs into the Net Sheet raises a needless issue, that can create a much bigger issue.

Jan 30, 2013 03:31 AM
Lenn Harley
Lenn Harley, Homefinders.com, MD & VA Homes and Real Estate - Leesburg, VA
Real Estate Broker - Virginia & Maryland

George.  Don't underestimate the limited knowledge of the average seller and the willingness of many agents to persuade them that something is or is not to their advantage.

BTW, I was trained in that same smoke and mirrors presentation when newly licensed.

Jan 30, 2013 03:37 AM
Debbie Gartner
The Flooring Girl - White Plains, NY
The Flooring Girl & Blog Stylist -Dynamo Marketers

Yes, it seems to me that this would generally only apply if this is not the primary residence.  Afterall, you still (generally) need to pay to stay somewhere.

It also seems to be that in the instances when you have moved, that the carrying costs is lower than what's outlined...because...if you still have a mortgage, part of the payment is towards the principle.

That aside, there can be some real costs to holding onto your house for too long, most especially in our area w/ high taxes (if you are moving from high to low)...but probably more importantly, the length of time on market can impact interest and offers.

Jan 30, 2013 08:08 AM
Conrad Allen
Re/Max Professional Associates - Webster, MA
Webster, Ma, Realtor

Hi Lenn.  You have to live somewhere.  You might as well own and get some tax deductions.

Jan 30, 2013 07:27 PM
Lenn Harley
Lenn Harley, Homefinders.com, MD & VA Homes and Real Estate - Leesburg, VA
Real Estate Broker - Virginia & Maryland

Debbie.  Right all the way.  What is lost in the rhetoric is the fact that, if you want to sell a property, price the dang thing to move, not sit.

Webster.  HA!  That fact was ignored by the writer, wasn't it???

Jan 30, 2013 07:42 PM