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 A little over a month ago I wrote about a certain lender (WaMu) starting to lock down the HELOCs of their customers, preventing them from tapping them further.  Today the LA Times had a good article on this subject and the fact these lock downs are starting to become much more extensive.

Tens of thousands of homeowners with home equity lines of credit are getting a rude surprise: They've been told by their lender that they can no longer take money out on their credit lines because sinking home prices have left them with little or no equity.

Among the lenders taking such action is Countrywide Financial Corp., which sent 122,000 letters to customers last week telling them they could no longer borrow against their credit lines. In some cases, according to the company, the borrowers are now "upside down" -- the total debt on the home exceeds the market value of the property.

The article also goes onto mention that Bank of America and Chase are also in the process of locking down lines of credit such as HELOCs. I expect these types of letters to be going out from A LOT more lenders in the near future as the credit contraction continues.  These also may become fairly commonplace lending such as business lines of credit which unlike HELOCs can not just be locked down but typically can be called in at the banks discretion. This happened a lot during the S&L crisis as banks reserves dwindled and they were forced to make the choice between staying in business and calling back loans from customers.

 

14 Comments on HELOC lock downs become more extensive

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02
2008
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Matt:  That just makes sense for WaMu to do that.  When the Home Equity Lines of Credit were originally implemented... homeowners actually had equity.  And, I am sure that WaMu assumed (bad word) that it was safe for homeowners to access some of that equity through their HELOC's.  Now that the owner's equity is disappearing, their HELOC's are creating just one more way to get upside down. 

Luckily in my Fort Worth market... the impact of locking down the HELOC's will have much less of a negative effect because values have remained relatively steady here.  The very gradual appreciation rate that Fort Worth has enjoyed over the last many years has been so different from other "hot" market areas.  So... we don't have a "bubble" that is subject to bursting.  Whew !

By the way... it's so nice to read such a series of intelligent posts, Matt.  Thank you.  By the way, I invite you to read some of my blog posts.  I'd love to hear your comments.

2:07am • #1
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Banks looking for a little more security in the event of defaults is reassuring.  I heard this a little while ago and have always been opposed to people living off their equity, or in some cases "pretend equity".  Given many prices and appraisals were inflated in the first place, it's a smart move on the part of the banks.
2:11am • #2
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It's good to see lenders taking some steps to limit potential losses. I've also heard of credit card companies lowering credit limits. Consumer credit is a privelege not a right, and when consumers mismanage it or market conditions shift unfavorably, it makes good business sense for lenders to react.
2:26am • #3
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John, yeah credit limits on cards are being lowered pretty extensively to, along with the rates being jacked up (yes even higher)  There's even been a very noticeable slow down of credit card and refinance offers in my mail box just in the last two weeks.  I used to get about 3 a day, and I think I got 2 while I was away in Hawaii.
2:30am • #4

Matt,
Banks are running scared. Banks were offering HELOCs up to 100% LTV.  Most HELOCs are 80% CLTV or under but quite a few HELOCs are as high as 90% CLTV.  In a declining market, like the SF Bay area (we have to paint a very broad brush so we are not "red linning"), certain areas have housing prices dropping 40%.  The HELOC money is no longer backed by equity in a lot of cases.  My bank has reduced maximum CLTVs if you are getting a primary and a HELOC at the same time.  Stand-alone guidelines really have become much more conservative. 

Hey, I really liked your blog. written well and came to the point.  I hope it gets read by a lot of people.  Thanks. AJ 

2:30am • #5
Years ago in Texas, you could not take out a home equity loan.  I always thought that was a very wise rule so people didn't get in poor financial condition and lose their home.  I am and will always be against borrowing on your homestead.  I want my home paid for one day.  However, I can see when there could be a time in a person's life when they have to borrow against their home - loss of jobs, illness. 
2:50am • #6
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I don't see HELOCs as a problem if people actually viewed them as a loan.  I think too many people just viewed them as free money, I get to spend my home equity...
2:53am • #7
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Looks like over in the UK its been reported that Citigroup sent out notices to 161,000 of their customers that their credit cards will be withdrawn in 35 days.
12:06pm • #8
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Matt...

Right now I am thinking that I'm glad this happened later than sooner :)

I think some of us may have safely slid under the Heloc wire :)  

P.S. In answer to your question...Yeah...I'm using your blog as quota :) 

TLW...ROAR!

12:29pm • #9
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On the same topic of lending drying up, yesterday the FED's monthly report on the banking system came out.  As an aggregate the banks in the US now have negative (yes negative) reserves.  That's your reason lending is starting to completely shut off, the banks have no reserves to lend.
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I think it is a necessary step.  These lenders can't have the unfunded liabilities on their sheets without having the liquidity to back them up.  Of course, when the financial market opens up a little more, I expect that the lines will too.
4:47pm • #11
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Matt, it'll be interesting to see if they just do it across the board or on a case-by-case basis. 
6:04pm • #12
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2008
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Good informative article.  The lending industry has several stages still to go through before we see the end of it.  Thanks for posting.
9:20pm • #13
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We can also look forward to higher interest rates on lines of credit if this pattern continues.
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Matt:  Watch out for the comment above me.  It is a spam comment.  I have seen perhaps ten of them tonight.  Also... I suggest you NOT click on the link... since it is spam... and may lead to some virus or trojan horse.  I suggest you DELETE the above comment.  Take care...

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