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The Skylight Has A Crack

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Real Estate Agent with The Top Team @ Charles Rutenberg Realty 255 Executive Dr, Plainview NY 11803
While showing a Condo on the North Shore Of Long Island, our Buyer Client noticed the Skylight Had A Crack.
 
 
The rest of the unit was in PERFECT Move-In Condition. New bathrooms, Updated Eat-In-Kitchen with Granite, Freshly Painted in Neutral Colors, Beautiful Location with Lake View in the Community. The price was BELOW the competition and the moving date worked for both the Buyer and the Seller.
 
Now the problem...
 
On Long Island, Buyers and Sellers use Attorney's for closing.  Mr. "Destroyer" lawyer told our client...Walk Away. He said there could be problems with insurance matters and the HOA and he recommends them not to purchase this Condo.
 
Keep in mind, our Buyers only want this community and lost another unit because they didn't act quick enough and they are now pressed for time.
 
We called the HOA and the roofer (who installs or replaces the dome) and were assured that they do this all the time. They are the roofers allowed to work in the community and many homeowners found cracks in their skylights due to Hurricane Sandy. The Sellers are not willing to fix it, but they had a professional check it out and it does NOT leak.
 
Larry has been trying to explain the "non-issue" to our Buyer and asked if he could speak with their Attorney.  Right now they just want to think about it but to let them know if any offers are in place. The listing agent has not been too co-operative and said she will not keep us updated. She said "either make an offer or not".
 
Yesterday morning we received a call from another Seller who wants to meet with us to possibly list her Condo in this same community. Co-incidentally, this unit is the same floor plan, but she does not have any updates, does not have lake view, needs to be painted and wants to list her unit $20,000 more than this one...
 
Oh, and by the way...Her skylight has a Crack!
 
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Comments (25)

Potranco Realty
Potranco Realty - San Antonio, TX
"Sold with Potranco Realty"

Larry & Sheila, that's just crazy...why don't Lawyers just stay the H*^$ out of our business, I know some HOA/POA in condos can be a problem when fixing certain items but seriously if there wasn't any major water damage and just a crack then why not move forward. 

Funny that the other home also has a cracked skylight...ha!

Good luck and hopefully all will work out for you and your Buyers, sometimes we use Lawyers but 99.9% of the time we go through title companies but in all our contract it states their lawyers can consult with them most often they choose not to sign this portion of the contract.

Have a wonderful Thursday and good luck...

Mar 06, 2013 09:30 PM
Dorie Dillard Austin TX
Coldwell Banker Realty ~ 512.750.6899 - Austin, TX
NW Austin ~ Canyon Creek and Spicewood/Balcones

Hi Larry & Sheila,

This is ridiculous! As Bob pointed out in Austin we normaly close at Title companies and not with attorneys..this is exactly a reason why I'm glad we don'e use attorneys...thi is way overstepping their bounds! Good luick and hope they listen to your advice!

Mar 06, 2013 09:39 PM
Scott Godzyk
Godzyk Real Estate Services - Manchester, NH
One of the Manchester NH's area Leading Agents

It is actually common for many different condos and I like the key that the HOA has installers that are experienced in installing and repairing them already. Great point when it should be a non issue. Those lawyers like to create problems that are not....

Mar 06, 2013 10:03 PM
Joan Cox
House to Home, Inc. - Denver Real Estate - 720-231-6373 - Denver, CO
Denver Real Estate - Selling One Home at a Time

Larry & Sheila, good luck with these buyers, and sure home the original seller fixes the crack, or buyers have no problem fixing themselves - for $20K less!

Mar 06, 2013 10:19 PM
Kathy Streib
Cypress, TX
Home Stager/Redesign

Larry & Sheila-   I wonder how they'll feel about him when they loose out on the community they really want. 

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Mar 06, 2013 11:00 PM
Chris and Dick Dovorany
Homes for Sale in Naples, Bonita Springs and Estero, Florida - Naples, FL
Broker/Associate at Premiere Plus Realty

Another reason we do not use lawyers.  Replacing a skylight is one of the easiest things that can be done to improve a home.  It's also relatively inexpensive.  Done all the time here.

Mar 06, 2013 11:03 PM
John McCormack, CRS
Albuquerque Homes Realty - Albuquerque, NM
Honesty, Integrity, Results, Experienced. HIRE Me!

Title companies are used to close in our area and it works great to me.  As for those buyers I hope they jump on the Condo or they will probably miss out on a great deal. 

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Mar 06, 2013 11:10 PM
Barbara-Jo Roberts Berberi, MA, PSA, TRC - Greater Clearwater Florida Residential Real Estate Professional
Charles Rutenberg Realty - Clearwater, FL
Palm Harbor, Dunedin, Clearwater, Safety Harbor

Skylights can be great IF they are constantly maintained. Often they are added and forgotten. That leads to problems since the seals need to also be maintained. It isn't as if this problem cannot be easily taken care of.

Mar 06, 2013 11:25 PM
Adrian Willanger
206 909-7536 AdrianWillanger-broker.com - Seattle, WA
Profit from my two decades of experience

Larry and Sheila-I love the part of the listing agent not wanting to keep you updated. That's hilarious. If there's no other damage around the skylight it doesn't seem like a real big deal. Good luck.

 

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Mar 07, 2013 12:03 AM
Ron and Alexandra Seigel
Napa Consultants - Carpinteria, CA
Luxury Real Estate Branding, Marketing & Strategy

Larry and Sheila,

I know Mr. Destroyer from our commercial real estate days.  You know you are in TROUBLE, when they say to you this lovely sentence, "I AM NOT A DEAL BREAKER, I AM A DEAL MAKER!".   This type of dude/or dudette (they come in both genders) often messes a deal up while showing their ignorance big time.  We also dealt with the mother (attorney) of a physician who wanted to open his practice in Beverly Hills.  When it came to signing the final papers, she had reworked them, even though what we sent was agreed by all parties.  Our client tore the documents, said NO DEAL!

And with Ron's blessing, I wished them well!  I was not interested in going through that again!  A

 

Mar 07, 2013 12:22 AM
Belinda Spillman
Aspen Lane Real Estate Colorful Colorado - Aurora, CO
Colorado Living!

L & S,  All I can say is I am so GLAD I dont have to deal with attoneys while doing my job.  I have yet to conduct a real estate transaction with an attorney involved.  i know it is so different in your area.  you have far more patience than I.  Best of luck to you.

Mar 07, 2013 01:24 AM
Al Raymondi
Ocean View Realty Group in Ormond By The Sea Florida - Ormond Beach, FL
Ormond By The Sea Florida - Home and Condo Sales

Seems like a small maintenance issue should not be a problem with the insurance Larry & Sheila, just send the insurance company evidence that the issue was corrected.

Mar 07, 2013 04:10 AM
Anita Clark
Coldwell Banker Access Realty ~ 478.960.8055 - Warner Robins, GA
Realtor - Homes for Sale in Warner Robins GA

Larry/Sheila...that is absurd and obviously poor advice from the Lawyer, compounded by the terrible service by the listing agent.  I hope your buyers see the light and buy! ;-)

Mar 07, 2013 04:46 AM
Hella Mitschke Rothwell
(831) 626-4000 - Honolulu, HI
Hawaii & California Real Estate Broker

Larry and Sheila: What in the world is the lawyer doing giving advice on this issue? I can see talking about the skylight, "but there might be more problems"? Come on. The price sounds right for this well located condo. And what's the matter with these skylights that they all crack?

Mar 07, 2013 06:20 AM
Rebecca Gaujot, Realtor®
Lewisburg, WV
Lewisburg WV, the go to agent for all real estate

Larry & Sheila, that is why I didn't have a skylight put in our home....usually have problems.  Since, the sky light is not leaking, and the condo has what the buyers are looking for....it is clear as a bell that they should write an offer.

Mar 07, 2013 06:38 AM
Kathy Sheehan
Bay Equity, LLC 770-634-4021 - Atlanta, GA
Senior Loan Officer

I think it is time to change attorneys!  Surely he isn't qualified to make a judgement on whether or not it is an issue.

Mar 07, 2013 09:55 AM
Lloyd Binen
Certified Realty Services - Saratoga, CA
Silicon Valley Realtor since 1976; 408-373-4411

Sheila and Larry, feed the attorney to the sharks.  No kidding, I have 9 skylights in my house and replacing a skylight is not that expensive and should certainly NOT kill at transaction.  Google "Velux" to check the price of skylights.  There are lots of variables--size, fixed or operable, single pane or dual or triple pane, etc.--.  Estimate as close as possible.  Then get an estimate of installation cost from that roofer and see if buyer and seller will split the cost.  Remind the listing agent that any buyer will want to be compensated even if it's not leaking at this time.  Remind the buyer he wasn't buying a unit with a brand new skylight.

Mar 07, 2013 04:14 PM
Lawrence "Larry" & Sheila Agranoff. Cell: 631-805-4400
The Top Team @ Charles Rutenberg Realty 255 Executive Dr, Plainview NY 11803 - Plainview, NY
Long Island Condo and Home Specialists

Update: We think we can get the Seller to pay for the repair of the cracked skylight. Our Buyers ( and they really are Buyers) said they want to discuss this with their lawyer!!!

Mar 08, 2013 04:17 AM
Patricia Feager, MBA, CRS, GRI,MRP
DFW FINE PROPERTIES - Flower Mound, TX
Selling Homes Changing Lives

Larry & Sheila,

Problems with the insurance company and HOA - BAH HUMBUG! I'm so glad TX is an escrow state and we don't have to put up with that. Buyers and Sellers in TX have a choice whether or not they want to hire an attorney; most do not. As a matter of fact, I've sold property to a Criminal Attorney and he was like a toddler learning how to ride a toy bike - he needed me every step of the way. He showed me respect and treated me with true professionalism. Another Attorney referred business to me because he didn't have time for it - he was going to trial and working on a mediation and 100 other more important things to do. He trusted me and it worked out fine.

Whenever there's a concern about insurance claims, I always tell my clients to call their insurance agent - they are the expert and the first thing they they are going to ask, is, is there an HOA? They can run a clue report and give people a lot of information and guidance too.

When there's an HOA question, I tell my clients to contact the HOA or to go to the office and sit down with someone to discuss issues and concerns. They are always happy to answer questions. Plus, a lot of information can be found on line.

Just like there are physicians, who I would never use, there are attorneys I would never use either. They are not God and they are only human, subject to lies, mistakes, and misinformation.

Congratulations on getting a prospective seller in the process!!!

Mar 09, 2013 05:38 AM
Catherine C Capasso
Catherine Cornelia Real Estate - Eastchester, NY
Cottage or Castle, What's Your Dream!
We can't avoid lawyers in our market but it is extremely frustrating when a buyer uses a lawyer that advises they walk away from a simple, fixable problem. Unfortunately, the seller should have been advised to repair the cracked skylight prior to listing the property. If Hurricane Sandy did in fact cause the crack, shouldn't homeowners insurance cover some or all of the cost? What about the structural responsibility of the condo association? It's a shame a simple problem is causing such trouble.
Mar 10, 2013 12:54 AM