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Pasadena Real Estate Q&A-What is PPSF And How Does It Impact My Offer?

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Pasadena Real Estate Q&A -  What Is PPSF?   And How Does It Impact My Offer Price?


Price Per Square PPSF is Only One Component of Homes Value - contact Realtor Michael Jacobs 818.516.4393 cell


 

PPSF = Price Per Square Foot

A question many homebuyers ask when attempting to determine an offer price for their purchase is the price per square foot(for simplification, let’s call it PPSF).   When you find a home that meets most of your needs(remember it won’t meet ALL of them) -- we will review homes that have recently sold in your area and most closely match the features, size and amenities of the home you have shown interest.   "Most recently" -- this will cover the last three months -- but could be six months, maybe longer depending on the home and the neighborhood. 

Okay, sounds pretty simple.

If you are dealing with tract homes it may be relatively easy.  You can add/deduct for locations within the development -- some may have views(add $), others may be in original condition(subtract $) while others may be appropriately updated(add $).   Armed with this information, you can add/deduct for these differences.   It’s not science --nor is it objective - it could be the absolute definition of a very subjective opinion.  And you know what they say about opinions.   Other factors come into play - starting with location, then broad appeal, time on market -  price per square foot(PPSF) is just one component of a home’s price and likely not the most important.

What if the home is not tract home?   The homes you will see in Pasadena are, for the most part, not tract homes -- there is a wonderful architectural diversity as well as many different neighborhoods.  So while PPSF is a factor, many other factors come into play -- price per square foot is only one component of a home’s price.   Compare homes that are relatively the same size in Pasadena -- we may compare homes in the same area(say, ½ mile) that are within 15% of the home size you are considering.

I meet with my buyers considering an offer and review the recently sold 
properties.  I preview homes so I can tell if there is a floor plan that does/doesn't flow, original architectural details that are/aren't intact, tasteful(very subjective)updates, restoration versus renovation and other factors.   So while price per square foot is a valid component(and you will be presented with this figure) it is not the only component.  


Ahh, what about condos?  Well, that’s something different -- and a topic for another post.  

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Michael Jacobs represents sellers and buyers of properties in the city of Pasadena and adjacent communities within the San Gabriel Valley and the northeast foothill communities within the city of Los Angeles.  He can be reached at 818.516.4393 cell or michaeljacobs@coldwellbanker.com


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Pasadena Real Estate Q&A -  What Is PPSF?   And How Does It Impact My Offer Price?

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Pasadena, CA 91102

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Beth Atalay
Cam Realty and Property Management - Clermont, FL
Cam Realty of Clermont FL

Hi Michael, I had this very conversation with an other Realtor on Friday!! Many buyers/sellers as well as Realtors get stuck on "PPSF" yet, in some cases, PPSF is not even relevant!

Mar 10, 2013 06:50 AM
Amanda S. Davidson
Amanda Davidson Real Estate Group Brokered By Real - Alexandria, VA
Alexandria Virginia Homes For Sale

Michael, great explanation of ppsf. I had this conversation with a client a couple weeks ago. You hit the nail on the head, there are so many other factors that go into the price!

Mar 10, 2013 07:40 AM
Ron and Alexandra Seigel
Napa Consultants - Carpinteria, CA
Luxury Real Estate Branding, Marketing & Strategy

Michael,

Great discussion on Price Per square foot.  I always check what the price per square foot vs replacement + land cost, when we analyze a property for ourselves...At one point when we were in Napa in the crazy times, the price per squre foot was higher than buying a people of land and replacement value.  It is that commercial real estate viewpoint that we use, and there are definitely other factors such as location, etc.  A

Mar 10, 2013 07:49 AM
Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
Pasadena And Southern California 818.516.4393

Belinda -- buyers and sellers get caught up with the price per square foot --- I guess it is an easy thing to calculate but it rarely gives us the most accurate information --- there are buyers who have lost out on homes and owners have seen their home not sell because of their reliance on this "number".

Dick - are you saying there are people who would leave California to live in Colorado???  

Bob - thanks very much.

Scott - the quality factor is an important one.

Beth - I know of what you say -- I can understand a buyer or seller since they're not typically buying/selling everyday but a Realtor should understand that PPSF by itself does not always equate to a fair asking/offer price.  

Amanda - it's a conversation that needs to be had with every buyer and seller.

Alexandra and Ron - it's definitely part of the process when revewing different properties especially for upside potential.  

 

Mar 10, 2013 08:01 AM
Michelle Gibson
Hansen Real Estate Group Inc. - Wellington, FL
REALTOR

Michael - PPSF definitely isn't the only component when determining the value of home especially if the comparison home might have additional features like a swimming pool or lake lot.

Mar 10, 2013 09:23 AM
Joy Daniels
Joy Daniels Real Estate Group, Ltd. - Harrisburg, PA

I think many agents (and buyers) wish/hope it were all about square footage, but there are so many other variables.  The sad part is that appraisers put so much value in it!  Personally unless it's a "track home" like you mentioned, it is almost impossible to use SF value.

Mar 10, 2013 10:09 AM
Endre Barath, Jr.
Berkshire Hathaway HomeServices California Properties - Beverly Hills, CA
Realtor - Los Angeles Home Sales 310.486.1002

Michael what a great question to ask and discuss with your potential buyers! Indeed condition, location and age will make some PPSF adjustments!!

Mar 10, 2013 01:09 PM
Debbie Reynolds, C21 Platinum Properties
Platinum Properties- (931)771-9070 - Clarksville, TN
The Dedicated Clarksville TN Realtor-(931)320-6730

I just had a buyer ask about ppsf today and after I explained it he was able to make his offer without prejudices. It worked.

Mar 10, 2013 01:34 PM
Laura Allen, Lake Tahoe - Truckee Real Estate for Sale TahoeLauraRealEstate.com
Coldwell Banker Realty, Tahoe City, CA (530) 414-1260 - Tahoe City, CA
Tahoe Real Estate Agent Helping Buyers and Sellers

Michael - You've done a great job in explaining ppsf and how it impacts an offer and valuation.  This is why you are a great real estate professional; you really understand how to explain important issues and items to buyers.

Mar 10, 2013 02:16 PM
Les & Sarah Oswald
Realty One Group - Eastvale, CA
Broker, Realtor and Investor

Michael - It still amazes me why some buyers get hung up on ppsf. Location should be their priority. You did a great job in explaining ppsf. Great Job!

Mar 10, 2013 03:52 PM
Erin Bates
CMG Financial and Expansion Marketing Services - Aurora, CO

This post is extremely informative and will be a wonderful resource for consumers. This should be at the top of google!

Mar 10, 2013 04:06 PM
Lenn Harley
Lenn Harley, Homefinders.com, MD & VA Homes and Real Estate - Leesburg, VA
Real Estate Broker - Virginia & Maryland

Price per square feet is one of the most important and, after adjustments, the most important indicator I use.  It's helped for years and buyers, after an explanation, can understand it. 

 

Mar 10, 2013 10:20 PM
Michael Setunsky
Woodbridge, VA
Your Commercial Real Estate Link to Northern VA

Michael, price per square foot is an important factor in commercial real estate as long as it reflects apples to apples. What do they say about opinions? Just kidding!

Mar 10, 2013 11:01 PM
Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
Pasadena And Southern California 818.516.4393

Michelle - very true.

Joy - that's why it is so important for the agent to meet the appraiser with their "comps" and explain the differences between the MLS remarks and the reality of the improvements noted.

Endre - I think so too.

Debbie - I hope the offer works out for your buyer.

Laura - thanks very much.

Sarah and Les - in my opinion, ppsf is just one of the factors, not the only one to consider.

Erin - I appreciate that thought.

Lenn - and those adjustments are very important.  The calculation and the explanation to buyers/sellers is key.

Michael - you know what they say about apples, right?   

Mar 10, 2013 11:46 PM
Fernando Herboso - Associate Broker MD, & VA
Maxus Realty Group of Samson Properties - Clarksburg, MD
301-246-0001 Serving Maryland, DC and Northern VA

Michael, a great reminder and lesson for me. .I have a them on my blogging and videos this month of what's my home worth and I appreciate your knowledge on this.  

Mar 10, 2013 11:49 PM
David Grbich
Realty One Group - www.FindCARealEstate.com - San Juan Capistrano, CA
Orange County Real Estate - 949-500-0484

Hi Michael - nice post - PPSF is a good indication of value but things do get trickier when it comes to custom homes, views, location etc. Regards Dave

Mar 11, 2013 12:26 AM
Christine Donovan
Donovan Blatt Realty - Costa Mesa, CA
Broker/Attorney 714-319-9751 DRE01267479 - Costa M

Michael - I think the price per square foot is more effective in some areas than in others.

Mar 11, 2013 03:22 PM
Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
Pasadena And Southern California 818.516.4393

Fernando - thanks for stopping by.

Dave - it probably makes more sense in some of the areas you cover with the number of tract homes and master planned communities.

Christine - like Dave's situation, it probably makes more sense to rely on price per square foot for your market area too.  

Mar 11, 2013 05:42 PM
Anonymous
Paul Evans

PPSF can help show how a property relates to recent sales.  Each dot on the chart below is a recent (last 6 months) sale from a town in my local MLS.  The trendline through the middle can be considered a kind of average.  

How to use this?  Say a buyer is considering a 4,000 sqft property.  Find 4,000 on the bottom axis of the chart and draw a line straight up.  You can see there were sales of properties of roughly 4,000 sq ft that sold for anywhere from about $150/sqft to almost $450.  The "average" was just over $250.  

So if you see a nice property at $200/sqft, could be that it's a great deal (or there's something they're not telling you!).  On the other hand, if a property is at $375/sqft, it could be worth it if it's in a great neighborhood, just remodeled, etc.  ... others have paid that much.  

PPSF Chart

To create a similar chart:

For each sale, export the sq ft and sale price and pasted into Excel. Then, in Excel, compute the PPSF (= Sale Price / sqft).  Then, highlight the sqft and prices and create the scatter plot (Excel ... Insert ... Scatter).  Then, in Chart Tools ... Layout, choose Trendline ... Exponential.  Then format the trendline and choose Polynomial ... Order 2 (don't ask!).  

Mar 15, 2013 06:33 AM
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
Pasadena And Southern California 818.516.4393

Paul - thanks for sharing your information.   Charts can show lots of things but knowing the nuances of a market and the story behind the numbers can assist a buyer and seller in making a decision of an offer or list price.   Some science sprinkled with experience add in market conditions and more than a pinch of the "unknown" helps create the perfect recipe.   

Mar 17, 2013 12:52 AM