funny stolen from google imagesToday, I attended a seminar by a nationally renowned author and finance expert.  I was totally blown away by the concepts that he was espousing because many of these things have attributed to the situation that we are presently experiencing.  Now granted, he did make some good comments and suggestions to be able to sell more homes, but here are a few points that I felt were very disturbing, not to mention his demeanor and attitude:

  • Use the equity in your home to purchase investment properties and lower your taxable income.  While this can be true, didn't we learn from using our homes as ATM's?

 

  • He mentioned that a lot of people should use their VA eligibility to purchase a home instead of going the conventional mortgage route.  OK, no real problem there except possibly for the funding fee.  But his main contention is that if someone has this available and they do not qualify for a conventional loan, they can go VA.  Additionally, if they put 10% down then there is no debt ratio to be looked at.  Let's see purchasing a home that they possibly can't afford - do you see a problem?

 

  • Buydowns - Now while buydowns are definitely something to take into consideration, the reason that most use it is not only for the lower rate during a certain period, but also because of the fact that the buyer has to only qualify at the lower rate.  Granted, a 30-year fixed buydown might surely be something to consider for both parties if executed correctly.

 

  • Interest Only Loans - both ARM's and Fixed - You're going to love this one.  The suggestion is that you should take the savings that you would have paid towards the principal and put it into your company matching 401K and that you will make more than you would have paid in principal and your home will still appreciate.  Now granted this is a theory and may sound good on paper, but the reality of it is that the money isn't going to make it into the 401K.  This is akin to those hawkers that tell us to use our equity as a checking account and you'll pay off your home in x years.  While in theory this may sound good, the reality is quite something different entirely. 

another funny stolen from google

OK, so today is February 6, 2008 and this guy is being paid to go around on the circuit and profess these theories.  Geez Louise, this just blew my mind.  I couldn't stand to listen anymore and stay to the end.  Had better things to do with my time, but he was supposedly going to tell us how to raise our credit scores 50 points within several weeks by using a credit card.  Hmmm.  That sounds scary already.

Have a great, profitable day and let's stay ethically and morally responsible.  Hopefully if enough of us do we can run these shysters out of business.  I don't have an issue educating the public, but these people make it so much harder. 

Additionally, the general public should contact their trained, licensed professionals to better understand the intricacies and implications invovled with mortgages and home buying.  We are there to assist and guide you through this process. 

 

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26 Comments on Can You Believe This Guy!

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06
2008
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There are many slick salesman selling sugar coated crap to the public.....I will agree that many times the theory does sound believable but in reality the people often lose.  I have still never found a real live person that has made money based on all the Real Estate Infomercials that are aired every night. 

1:26pm • #1
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Marc - What I'm truly interested in is his demeanor and attitude.  From those two things, I could of known whether I was going to listen to his proposed theories or let them travel in one ear and out the other.
1:47pm • #2
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Well, if I had been at that seminar with you...after the first one I would've said.....come on Marc...let's go to lunch!
2:57pm • #3
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Dan - I agree with you, never found one myself, but this is supposed to be a respected speaker.  Only it appears to me that he's livining in the past.

Jason - Let me put it like this.  I could put up with it at first, but his demeanor and attitude got worse as time went on.  I actually thought that he must have been constipated.  I know it happens to some people when they travel.  The worst part is that he had a booklet, etc. that he was hawking.  It appears that he saw someone leave the building with one.  Now this person may have purchased it, but he went on about them leaving without paying the $59.95.  Poor taste as far as I'm concerned.

Sally - At first I didn't leave because I did not want to be disrespectful to some people that were there.  I was actually going to stay through the break because of that also, but obviously decided differently.

3:15pm • #4
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Advising interest only? Hmmm...yeah, walking out made sense.
3:19pm • #5
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Marc- Scary stuff and the people in attendance will go out and practice these theories. I'm not very conservative, but lately I am.
4:00pm • #6
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Marc, Well OK then. This guy is stuck in a time warp. I truly hope folks are NOT taking his advice.
5:35pm • #7
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Audrey - I hope that too many people did not buy into his bs, but I also saw a line of people looking to plop down some money for his wares.

Mark - Basically, the same here to a degree.  I can't believe that this guy was brought in to be a regional speaker.

BB - I totally agree with you.  I was asked by a couple of people what I thought of him (they were thinking of buying his booklet, etc.) and told them basically what I've stated here and more.  Still there were people lining up.  Unfortunately, BS sells for some and then too many people get hurt.

5:41pm • #8
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Wow.... Living in the Past was that long ago.... seems like yesterday!  LOL
5:54pm • #9
Marc, I couldn't agree with you more!  You saw that I left before the break, and that was 2 hours too long.  The guy was possibly one of the biggest jack asses I've seen recently!!!  I couldn't take any more of him telling everyone how stupid they are.  We were discussing exactly what you mentioned above...his teachings are the reason Orlando has such issues today. 
6:38pm • #10
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Dan - Great song - love Tull! 

Chris - Agree, agree, agreed!  He was a total doofus.  I know everytime he'd put the group down he would say that he didn't mean it.  Can you believe the freakin' audacity?  Can't believe he wasn't screened and that it was such a waste of our time.  Yeah he did say a couple of good things, but too much bs about himself.  I was planning on another post, but this just infuriated me.  It's people like him that create a lot of the problems the industry is seeing today. 

7:30pm • #11
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Was that Jeff Elias? There are so many speakers out there now a days I try to do a little screening first and ask around. 
7:54pm • #12
Wow Heather, you're good!  I'm calling you next time, prior to seeing someone speak!  You can warn me against wasting my time on a blowhard.
8:10pm • #13
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Heather - Good hear from you!  No comment!

Christopher - I agree.  You would have thought that others would do that instead of wasting our time, but then again you have to wonder what they may have gotten out of it.

8:25pm • #14
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2008
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It seems like there are people out there that will do anything to sell you.  It's a shame that those people that have paid all of their bills on time and have no outstanding debt have a hard time getting a loan than those that have run their credit cards to the limit.  These are the people that end up defaulting because they have too much debt.  It makes absolutely no sense to me. 
8:22am • #15

Marc-

Ooohhh!  I wasn't even there and I can just tell from your post the guy/company was smarmy and know-it-all and all about putting money in his pocket and taking it from us/everyone else.  Unfortunately, probably over half the people there left the seminar feeling like they actually learned something and may very well try some of the stuff they heard.  Ouch.  I hope they get a good dose of cynicism and actually pass some of the ideas by financial experts who will tell them what they REALLY should be doing with their money.   

9:32am • #16
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Brigita - Exactly and this guy was professing getting people loans that can't afford it in the first place.  Go figure!  Like you said, he's out there to make a buck.

Lisa - I hope you are right.  As realtors we should have a good knowledge of mortgages and finances, but leave it to the professionals.

12:47pm • #17
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Marc - you stayed through the whole thing?  I have such a reduced tolerance level for people like that now - trying to line their own pockets while emptying yours.  Yuck.
9:09pm • #18
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I wouldn't have as much patience as you....  Cleaning out my closets would have been more fun.  How much did you pay for this seminar

10:39pm • #19
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I can't believe he was still promoting interest only loans, and investing the rest.  You're right, it would never happen; but hey, if someone did actually manage to save a few thousand dollars over the course of three years I guess they would have enough money to last a few months when their payment adjusts. Sca-ry.
11:18pm • #20
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08
2008
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Hi Marc - Salesman - You will find them at every street corner. Some are good and worth listening to, others not so much. At least you figured it out real quick :)
7:32am • #21
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Lisa H. - I agree with you.  I left at the break.  The only reason that I stayed that long was out of respect to some people that were there.

Judy - It was free.  Probably wouldn't have gone otherwise.  I choose carefully what I pay for.

Lisa B. - I know, isn't it!  What a dweeb!

Bill - You're right, they come in all shapes & sizes and are all around, we just have to figure out which the good ones are.

7:48am • #22
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10
2008
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Pretty disturbing indeed.  We need to get away from having all this debt.  The goal should be to get out of debt at least the bad consumer debt.  Sounds like an old shell game illusion or a ponzi scheme.  Sooner or later the whole thing implodes.
5:20pm • #23
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Rob,  I totally agree with you there.
5:41pm • #24
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2008

Marc,

I'll bet you stayed longer than I would have... Buydowns.. did the expert mention that someone has to pay the price / points to buy the rate down, either the seller or the buyer has to pony up.

The sad part is that most of these events are filled with consumers who think they are really getting in on special inside information.

With the downturn in real estate we can expect to see a lot more of these "gurus" on the seminar circuit. 

Lee Walsh 

3:07pm • #25
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Lee - The joke of it is that this guy was speaking to a group of realtors.  Can you believe that?
5:47pm • #26

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