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Playing Agent Hide & Seek

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Real Estate Agent with Fathom Realty West Sound WA State 52404

(Warning: The following is a rant. All characters mentioned in this work are fictitious. Any resemblance or similarities to real persons, living or dead, is purely coincidental. However, if the shoe fits...)

Last Friday I received a phone call and referral from a Keller Williams agent in Salt Lake City. His Seller clients were relocating to our area here in Kitsap County and were in desperate need of assistance. They had come out for the weekend on a fast and furious house hunting expedition, but the agent they had been working with unfortunately didn't share their same sense of urgency. After looking at just a few homes that the Buyers themselves had found online, the agent abruptly deposited them back at the place where they were staying, and just before he drove away said, "Give me a call if you find anymore homes you want to go see!"

Shortly after talking to them on the phone, I was able to identify about a dozen or so potential candidates for us to go see.

The next morning, prior to us meeting, I determined the order of the homes we would visit.

I called the first listing's phone-to-show number to arrange a showing.Playing Agent Hide and Seek

The number turned out to the be office number for the listing agent, and the line was busy. I called the office's 800 number, but it was disconnected.

I tried to find the listing agent's cell phone number. It wasn't listed on the MLS datasheet.

I looked on his website. But no direct phone number, just the office number. Which I called again. Still busy.

I called the owner and left a message.

I met with the Buyers and began taking them through the various homes I had scheduled. Numerous times I attempted to call the listing agent's office, but it remained busy.

Finally, we came to the end of our list of homes, and the last one to see was the home I hadn't been able to reach anyone to confirm the showing.

I normally don't like entering a home without a confirmed appointment, but these Buyers were desperately under the gun to find something. That easily trumped any concerns I had.

As I approached the door, I saw that there were dogs inside. Great! Just what I needed to compound the situation as it was!

I knocked on the door and rang the door bell, but no one answered. The dogs seemed fairly sedate, so I carefully opened the door.

Luckily, we were able to tour the home, and actually, it was the one my Buyers ended up liking the most.

So, my Buyers go have lunch, and I head back to my office to write up an offer. I tried calling the listing agent again, but his office number was still busy.

I finally called one of the neighboring offices of the same brokerage franchise in the next town over, and asked if they had the listing agent's cell number. They did and I called it.

There was no greeting to help identify exactly who I had called, but I left a message anyway.

"This is Rich Jacobson with Keller Williams West Sound. I have some Buyers who are considering putting in an offer on your listing, and I just had a few questions about the property before we draft our contract. Please call me back as soon as you receive this message. Thank you!"

3 hours later, I was still waiting to hear from the listing agent.

My Buyers and I went ahead and drafted the offer and submitted it to the listing agent by email. I called the agent and left a message, alerting him that an offer had been sent to him, and to his office as well.

In our offer, we stipulated a 24 hour response time from the Sellers. The next day, Sunday, we waited. And we waited. Finally, at around 6pm, I started calling the Listing Agent on his cell phone once every half hour, each time leaving a message for him to call me.

Finally, around 8:30pm, I spoke with the Listing Agent for the very first time in the entire process!

Lesson Learned

Ease of Accessibility is absolutely crucial to the success of today's agent/broker. Your direct line number should be easy to find on whatever platform or website you're engaged in or using to promote your business. Make yourself easy to reach. Don't play 'Hide & Seek' with clients or potential clients. If people can't find you easily, they'll quickly move on to look for someone they can find and connect with.

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Rich Jacobson is a REALTOR® and licensed Broker with Fathom Realty. He's a Crab Hunter, Clam Digger, and Oyster Shucker, skilffuly vanquishing anything in a shell! He is the Social Media Evangelist for Life on the Kitsap Peninsula & The Western Puget Sound in scenic WA State.

Michael Ford
San Diego, CA
California+Hawaii+Oregon

many years ago a newer agent asked me what the secret to my success was. 

i told her "i answer my phone".   the corollary is "i return calls timely". 

marvin, 35, your phone habits are quaint , but a burden to those you transact with.  burglary?  not hardly.

May 10, 2013 01:27 AM
Kimo Jarrett
Cyber Properties - Huntington Beach, CA
Pro Lifestyle Solutions

Why didn't you pass on this property knowing the challenges that you were having trying to contact the agent? If you didn't show your clients that property, would they have made an offer on another property they had examined? Why would you expect any difference from this agent in performing his duties to present your client's offer in a timely manner? Finally, based upon your rant, would anybody dare do business with this agent, I don't think so?

May 10, 2013 02:07 AM
Carla Muss-Jacobs, RETIRED
RETIRED / State License is Inactive - Portland, OR

In our MLS there are only three types of listings which are available to show: active, short sale pending and bumpable buyer.  If the property had a pending offer, which wasn't updated into the MLS yet, it's still pending, and off limits.  While I admire your tenacity, I would have found out the current status prior to showing.  And it's a shame the listing agent was so hard to reach.  It's a disservice to his clients, IMHO.

May 10, 2013 02:40 AM
Theresa Akin
CORPUS CHRISTI REALTY GROUP - Corpus Christi, TX

First If I need access to a listing and unable to get hold of the agent because of no number after many attempts, I call the broker. I don't go into the dwelling without legal access and you take a risk with pets. I know a couple who have dogs. They're ok with you as long as you don't go any further than the first ten steps of the foyer. Then if they don't know you, they literally become guard dogs.

I have no clue how this agent thinks they could have sold the house without a contact number. If you have a listing you need to be accessible.

As far as Scheduling Service (Minna #33) Some of those are members of the family and don't always work. Have had trouble with every scheduling service I've ever had to contact.

Did you knock on the door? I have done that when I couldn't get in touch with the agent. But never walk in without permission. I can tell you from personal experience (because of having permission from the agent) to go ahead when you turn to go into another room and you have a 20 guage shoved into your face ( I even announced myself) you have a tendency to go home and change clothes. 2 days later that particular house was listed with another agent.   

May 10, 2013 03:01 AM
Bryan Robertson
Los Altos, CA

If an agent of mine were that unresponsive, I'd fire him/her in a heartbeat.  Nobody, and I mean NOBODY, is so busy they can't return a phone call or respond for days.

May 10, 2013 03:22 AM
Brian Park
Park Realty Investments - Murray, UT

Good grief, I can't believe all the comments about entering a property without a confirmed appointment. If I had followed that position I would not have sold 3 or 4 homes every year due to that and sellers wouldn't have gotten a good offer and a sale. One of the things you cover when you have listed a property is the lock box and the use of it. This is not the same as when I started and the one income family was the norm and someone was home. As a matter of fact we didn't have lockboxes, that came later.

If an out of area buyer sees a home they really like the outside of and the neighborhood, they are really half sold, I'm going to go to the door and if no one answers the door and there is a lock box I am going to show it, that what the sellers should have heard from you when you installed the lockbox and the different reasons for it. Showings lead to offers and isn't that what any normal seller wants. We want them to get lost when we are showing, well if they are not there thats fine, they are gone and thats what I want. If it is a seller that doesn't want that for whatever reason then they shouldn't have a lock box at all, its not just a decoration item you know, there is a reason for it. And like some sellers that want to be there when its shown, they better be on call and ready to be there and even then I will tell them to get lost.

May 10, 2013 03:47 AM
Marc McMaster
RE/MAX Centre Realty - State College, PA
Putting my clients before myself

Its too bad that the agent was unreachable.  That being said in our board you do not entire a property without a confirmed appointment.  Here you would be brought up on a violation for entering without an appointment.  Your area may be different but I definitely would not have gone in that house with dogs there either.

May 10, 2013 04:31 AM
Gene Riemenschneider
Home Point Real Estate - Brentwood, CA
Turning Houses into Homes

After all that did you get the house?  I hope after all that you got it.

May 10, 2013 06:26 AM
Doug Cook
Coldwell Banker Brown Realtors - O'Fallon, IL
Better Service, Better RESULTS!

It amazes me that managing brokers put up with this.  Cudos to those managers who have indicated they would not put up with agents who acted in this manner in their offices.  

May 10, 2013 10:37 AM
Rich Jacobson
Fathom Realty West Sound - Poulsbo, WA
Your Kitsap County WA Real Estate Broker

Sorry for my usual lack of response and rewarding your valued comments...it's been a busy week.

As an update, we are officially under contract, but we're still having problems getting a fully completed Form 17 Seller's Disclosure Statement from the Sellers. Third times a charm!...

 

May 10, 2013 10:48 AM
Rich Jacobson
Fathom Realty West Sound - Poulsbo, WA
Your Kitsap County WA Real Estate Broker

Our practice here in WA State may vary somewhat from what you all as used to dealing with. Usually, the owner is the contact for showings. We don't use 3rd party showing intermediaries. Many times, is the owner isn't available, you simply leave a message, and go ahead and show. But that is normally specified in the MLS datasheet. The 'Phone-to-Show' number was the listing agents office number, which was busy (all day Saturday, Sunday, and part of Monday). I called the owner and left a message. I don't normally show a property without some kind of approval, written, verbal, or otherwise, so yes, I was taking a chance. But a risk I was willing to take. Bottom line though, we collectively need to do a much better job of being accessible to our clients and to the public in general.

Thanks everyone for some really great discussion here!

May 10, 2013 10:53 AM
Marte Cliff
Marte Cliff Copywriting - Priest River, ID
Your real estate writer

It's interesting to see how regulations vary from state to state - and to see how many agents would NOT have entered the house under those circumstances.

Glad you're under contract!

May 10, 2013 05:06 PM
Anonymous
Marvin Shelley, Broker and LLB

Michael #48  In my law school criminal law class we learned that entering a buiding without permission is burglary IF something must be done to facilitate entry  ie: opening a door. IF the door is open  it ain;t burglary. Could be trespassing.

Brian # 53  Burglary is a felony resulting in loss of license in Arkansas. Maybe felons are allowed to have a RE license wherever you are. I bet your broker does not know about your breaking and entering tactics.
Are you folks that desperate for a sale?

Travis # 39  Sorry chum, but MLS rules do not trump the law. The agent was stoopid!

AND, finally, "What ever happened to civility, good manners and being considerate of others?" And agents are the worst!

May 11, 2013 12:45 AM
#60
Rich Jacobson
Fathom Realty West Sound - Poulsbo, WA
Your Kitsap County WA Real Estate Broker
Marvin: Which agent was 'stoopid?' I am not personally desperate for a sale. But I am desperate and relentless on behalf of my clients in helping them achieve their goals. There was a lockbox on this property, which affords us licensed brokers access, and digitally records our visit. I exceeded my due diligence in contacting all interested parties. The only real risk I took was entering a home with dogs. My Buyers had only 1 day to find a house. This was the very last house on the list. If I hadn't pursued it, we wouldn't be under contract, and they wouldn't have a home to relocate to. And for the record, I attempted to contact the Designated Broker for this listing as well. But his number was busy as well!...Understand that this is an exception for me, not the rule. This particular home has been on and off the market for several years, and has been listed by 4 different agents. I think the Seller probably appreciates the fact that I showed the home, and that we are under contract!
May 11, 2013 01:54 AM
Rich Jacobson
Fathom Realty West Sound - Poulsbo, WA
Your Kitsap County WA Real Estate Broker
I really appreciate and respect the various opinions and comments expressed here. It's a judgment call. Each of us has to decide what is in the best interests of our clients, and whether any risk involved is reasonable to take. My clients were in the car while I accessed the property and went inside with the dogs. I alone took the risk of engaging the canines, which were extremely friendly. I verified that the home was unoccupied and presentable for showing. Again, this is not my usual practice. Normally, I would have passed. But we had gone through a long list of potential properties, and nothing was working for them. Should they be penalized because the listing agent was lazy, inaccessible, and unresponsive? Was it their fault that the listing office phone was out of service for 3 days?
May 11, 2013 02:03 AM
Jeff Dowler, CRS
eXp Realty of California, Inc. - Carlsbad, CA
The Southern California Relocation Dude

Well that agent seems bent on taking competency to a new low, and doing it very well.

An office line busy all the time? Sounds suspicious to me.

I sure get your pain with the difficulty in gaining access - this seems to happen alot - and I have experiencd it on more than one occasion. We can get in big trouble for entering without an appointment if that is what is specified in the MLS.

Sounds like it is working out so far but wondering how things will progress with this agent, and seller. Not off to the best start - keep us posted.

May 11, 2013 02:14 AM
Eve Alexander
Buyers Broker of Florida - Tampa, FL
Exclusively Representing ONLY Tampa Home Buyers

I speak "dog" and fostered problem dogs for many years...just because a dog likes YOU, does not mean they will like the perfume of the person that you are bringing with you into the house.

Dogs sense and react to a person's "energy" and good dogs can go bad in a split second, when someone is entering their domain...try watching the show  "when good dogs go bad".  It is the silent "friendly" ones that give no warning and go for your face.

 

I don't care how you spin it...you put your clients at risk entering a home with dogs that you knew nothing about...

Eve

May 11, 2013 06:58 AM
Rich Jacobson
Fathom Realty West Sound - Poulsbo, WA
Your Kitsap County WA Real Estate Broker
Eve: well, we'll just have to agree to disagree here. I think I adequately covered my bases and did what was best for my clients. Obviously you would do differently. I respect your right to serve your clients in the best manner you see fit. Enjoy your weekend!
May 11, 2013 07:44 AM
Rich Jacobson
Fathom Realty West Sound - Poulsbo, WA
Your Kitsap County WA Real Estate Broker
And for the record, the intent and purpose for the article was to stress the importance of accessibility, and a reminder to make yourselves easily available to clients & colleagues.
May 11, 2013 07:51 AM
Norma Kania
Weichert Realtors - Clinton, NJ

Great thread! I have a few listings I was not able to show because the listing agent didn't respond. Only if my client is REALLY interested will I go back and try again.

Here is the other side of the story. I had a listing available and the showing instructions required an appointment. Someone tried to call me while I was in a seminar and unavailable for about 2 hours. The agent wanted to show it and wanted to show it now. The agent called my office about a dozen times and the person on desk finally told her to just go, knock on the door and go in using the lockbox. Here is the thing. The reason that an appointment is necessary is because my client often 'sits' a relative's German Shepherd. He will attack anyone coming in and is big and heavy enough to go through a storm door. As it turns out, my client was out and it was ok.

IMHO, the lockbox is for the LA's convenience of not having to accompany every interested buyer and their agent. Yes, I am available by phone or text 24/7, but sometimes more than an hour will be needed for an appointment. I would never go into a listed property without the return approval call unless the showing instructions stated it was vacant and only a courtesy call was required. I couldn't believe the agent on duty in my office would take the responsibility to approve my showing. I wouldn't do it. If the other agent and/or prospect had been met by "Marshmallow" and had been bitten, there would be a huge liability and I can hear the cash registers ringing now.

Rich, you brought up an excellent topic!! Going back to the basics of your post, I know there are some agents who restrict their availability and are not available certain days or certain times. As a result, they are restricting their client's prospects of a sale. If away for an extended time, why not offer the number of another agent in your phone announcement who can cover for you....

Thanks for letting me vent, too!

 

May 12, 2013 05:56 AM