Have you had a home stripped yet? In Kansas City copper theft and vandalism is a daily problem. I can't even count the number of homes I've seen that have fallen victim to this crime. Often the cost of the damage is greater than the value of the house.copper theft

There seems to be no boundaries, new homes, old homes, apartment buildings, even commercial properties and churches are targets. One local church had the rooftop air conditioners stolen in the night. Now how is it that no one notices people on the roof of a church at night throwing air conditioners off.

Kansas City has it's share of $30,000 houses, strip one of them of all it's plumbing, wiring and fixtures and you have a house that ain't worth fixing.  I had one house listed, they stole the wiring out of the walls and ceilings. They completely destroyed the home just to get 5 pounds of wire. The seller just told the lender to come and get it. He had no desire to even try to put it back together.

In 2007 about 20 states introduced some kind of legislation to regulate scrap metals. This year Missouri tackles the issue HB1512 sponsored by Representative Will Kraus seeks to find some kind of solution to this problem. while it may not be the cure it will at least treat some of the symptoms. We need to take further steps to counter this crime.

Some states have made the act of stealing copper a felony. I like that! But it's not just copper, aluminum, stainless steel, and even the exhaust system on your car are targets too. Imagine getting in your car, starting it up and finding out someone has stolen your catalytic converter.

 One house I manage as a rental was left full of appliances, electronics, a big screen TV and even an electronic keyboard and several amplifiers. Thieves broke in went straight to the basement and took about 20 feet of 1/2" copper. They didn't even touch the electronics, they didn't even look in the closets. 

I read that there have been incidents of people cutting down power polls to try to get the copper wire from them. Some people have been electrocuted while trying to steal wire.

Others; utility company employees, have been electrocuted as a result of the grounding rods being stolen from substations and electrical utilities. 

About a week ago, I was sitting in my favorite recliner, tapping away at my laptop as I am now. I saw a truck cruising my neighborhood fitting the description of suspicious at best. I watched and waited and sure enough they came back, dropping off some creep with a pry bar and a pair of bolt cutters. He ran to the back of the vacant house across the street and disappeared. I dialed 911 and grabbed my shotgun. I told the dispatcher they better get out here quick, having thoughts of that great American Hero, Joe Horn. I asked them to please hurry because I didn't want to have another Texas incident.

Fortunately the KCPD arrived in time to hook up one of the thugs. The other took off in a truck and led them on a high speed chase. He managed to elude them but they know who he is. With the glut of foreclosures on the market, my neighborhood is starting to look like a ghost town. As a result I see more and more thugs cruising my neighborhood looking for an easy mark.

 I have asked my loosely knit neighborhood association to quickly put together a neighborhood watch program.  I suggested this sign as our logo, I'm not sure everyone else is as excited about it as I am.

Many of my neighbors are retired, and many have lived in this neighborhood for decades, most see the changes but seem reluctant to take action.  I guess it will fall to me to get them motivated and doing something.

If your state hasn't addressed this issue, encourage your legislature to do something. Our real estate market is depressed enough, houses with no plumbing, wiring, water heaters, furnaces and fixtures are not going to improve the situation. 

 

8 Comments on Copper theft devaluing real estate from coast to coast

FEB
10
2008
227,631 Points 18 Featured Posts Outside Blog

This is the strangest thing I've ever heard... How much can the copper be worth? $50? $100?

I've never heard of this and don't think it would be worth the effort, not to mention the moral and ethical issues associated with the activity!?

2:23am • #1
238,128 Points 6 Featured Posts Called Shot Master
Ben: Urban mining is a phenomenon around these parts also. With the slowdown on the economy these types of thefts have increased. Occasionally the sanguine thief gets electrocuted in the process. Divine will? You be the judge.
2:26am • #2
2 Featured Posts

We could only hope that "devine will" or poetic justice will thin out the thugs. Call it the theory of natural selection. Recently story came out that 30% of a certain segment of KC's populatoin was unemployed.

I guess one must wonder what they do for a living. While crime rages on in KC and we have no jail space for the criminals Kansas City seeks to fill it's coffers by incarcerating homeowners and landlords. read this!

 

 

3:06am • #3
APR
01
2008
2 Featured Posts

Here's another update on the jail problem, now our Mayor is requesting that we close the jail....

Thank God, Matt Blunt signed off on the concealed carry bill.

10:04am • #4
SEP
03
2008

I am a building owner and had one of my HVAC outside units stolen. for 30 dollars in copper a thief cost me 1500 dollars. I talked with other building owners and found out that the thieves often steal the same units over and over again. each time costing the owner thousands of dollars. You might want to check out www.HVACCAGES.com Its alot cheaper to prevent rather than replace!

pete kovalic
2:27pm • #5
OCT
21
2008

All of the pipes, baseboard heating and water meter were stolen out of my double property for sale.

I am trying to sell at a much lower price because we are fighting with the insurance company over the settlement. What a headache because if I do not put the heat back in, the house could be ruined in the winter. If I do, it is at my own expense plus the insurance company cancelled and I got new in surance which requires someone is living there.  My head is spinning. I have no help to decide what to do--replace and hang on or drop to nothing and give it away.

This copper theft is rampant here and the city or government is doing sqat and the junkyards do not give a hoot.

Lenore-Scranton, Pa.
9:22am • #6
JAN
05
2011
189,523 Points

This problem is now worse than ever in our community! I had two seperate nursing homes hit, a couple of restaurants, a couple of night clubs, a convenience store, and to add to it, assumeably the homeless burned down a house they kept breaking in to and sleeping, while the homeless shelter/soup kitchen was giving away 900 to 1,000 free Christmas lunches according the the article on the front page of the local telegram, right next to a picture of my listing burning. Passerbyer called in flames from roof at 1:45PM Christmas Day! It is now scheduled to be torn down. None of this mentions stolen lawn mowers, air compressors, engine lifts, jack hammers, etc from storage sheds to front porches!

6:12am • #7

The theft of my copper pipes, heating elements and water meters from my double home in Scranton , Pa. was eclipsed only by the insurance company who took 4 months to send me a check for one side of the double home.  They made it out to the wrong payees and made me wait even longer.  This is the crises that I went through after being a victim of two crimes: the other crime committed by the insurance company to whom I had been paying premiums for 39 years! 

After having replaced the pipes on one side of the double, my house sold for 28,000 (originally for sale @ 78,000.  There should be some victim's compensation and strict laws against the theives and the insurance companies.

Lenore
6:56am • #8


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