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WHO PAYS THE BUYERS AGENT'S? FOLLOW THE YELLOW BRICK ROAD!

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Real Estate Agent with Lenn Harley, Homefinders.com, MD & VA Homes and Real Estate 303829;0225082372

REAL ESTATE FEES OR COMMISSIONS EXPOSED!!!

HOW DO WE GET PAID??  HA!  Usually rather circuitously.  Follow closely.

To answer the question.  How does the real estate agent get paid?  The Buyer's Agent is usually paid through a split of the listing agent's fee to the seller.   THIS IS WHY I ALWAYS SAY "THANK YOU" TO THE SELLER at closing!

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1.  THE SELLER HIRES AN AGENT/BROKER TO SELL THEIR HOME.
2.  THE LISTING AGENT/BROKER LISTS THE PROPERTY IN THE MLS AND MAKES AN OFFER OF COMPENSATION TO  BUYER'S AGENTS/BROKERS TO BRING A READY, WILLING AND ABLE HOME BUYER.
3.  AT SETTLEMENT, THE LISTING AGENT/BROKER'S FEE IS DEDUCTED FROM THE SELLER'S NET PROCEEDS OF THE SALE.
4.  AT SETTLEMENT, THE TITLE COMPANY PAYS THE LISTING AGENT AND THE BUYER'S AGENT THE AGREED FEE/COMMISSION.

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LOOK AT THE HUD-1.  The commission is deducted from the SELLER'S NET PROCEEDS.  

Where does the money come from?  It usually comes from the Seller's Net Proceeds of the sale of their home.  If there is no equity for net proceeds, the seller pays their listing agent out of pocket, which the listing agent splits with the buyer's agent.

In a short sale, the seller's mortgage company/bank pays the agents a percentage of the final sales price.

In a rental, the owner pays the agents, usually a percentage of a month's rent.

The question is often asked, "Why doesn't the home buyer pay their agent directly?"  HA!  If the buyers were required to pay their buyer's agent directly out of pocket, there would probably be no such thing as a buyer's agent/broker.  The buyer has the exorbitant fees to the state/county/town for the liberty of transferring property; down payment, lender's fees, appraisal, inspections, survey, and the biggie, TITLE INSURANCE (in most states the buyer pays title insurance) title company fees, abstract, and more, more, more. 

If you are a BUYER'S BROKER, you will usually have a representation agreement between the buyer and their buyer's agent/broker.  That specifies the fee you agree to pay your agent/broker for their services in helping you find/buy a home.  However, that agreement will also usually state that the fee will be collected through the MLS co-op offered by the listing agent/broker. 

Look at the HUD-1.  With rare exceptions, the fee to the buyer's agent/broker is from a split of the listing agent's fee to the SELLER.

WHY DO BUYERS AGENTS ADVERTISE THAT THEIR SERVICES ARE FREE?

Because they are advertising their services to home buyers and they know that the buyer does not pay the agent directly out of pocket.   Many listing agents object to buyer's agents advertising that their services are FREE.  However, in many states, the real estate license laws clearly permit this advertising.  

WHAT DOES THE NAR CODE OF ETHICS SAY??

Standard of Practice 12-1
REALTORS® may use the term “free” and similar terms in their advertising and in other representations provided that all terms governing availability of thReal estate lawe offered product or service are clearly disclosed at the same time. (Amended 1/97)

How can this be you ask??  Because, some years ago, in the late 1980s, most states enacted license law that separated BUYER'S AGENCY from the fee. 

FACT:  Home buyers can be fully represented by your own agent/broker in the real estate transaction and your agent can be paid by the seller

For home buyers, the services of their buyer's agent is FREE.

** Agency laws differ from state to state.  The above represents MD and VA.

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Lenn

 

 

Courtesy, Lenn Harley, Broker, Homefinders.com, 800-711-7988.
Serving home buyers in Maryland and Northern Virginia.

 

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Comments(22)

Lenn Harley
Lenn Harley, Homefinders.com, MD & VA Homes and Real Estate - Leesburg, VA
Real Estate Broker - Virginia & Maryland

Jay.  Indeed.  The biggest convolution is of course, dual agency.  The circuitous ways the broker can collect from both sides is astounding. 

May 26, 2013 10:11 PM
Thom Abbott
MyMidtownMojo.com |770.713.1505 | Intown Atlanta GA Condo Living - Atlanta, GA
Midtown Atlanta GA Condos For Sale

Lenn, the biggest thing that hit me square in the head...."Thanking the SELLER at the closing table....they ARE the one that paid you!"

We are all thankful to our BUYER for buying, but as you have pointed out, the SELLER is the one that "wrote the check"

Something we need to remember for sure!

Happy Holiday! 

May 26, 2013 10:34 PM
Lenn Harley
Lenn Harley, Homefinders.com, MD & VA Homes and Real Estate - Leesburg, VA
Real Estate Broker - Virginia & Maryland

Debbie.  THAT is a fact.

Thom.  I remember it each and every sale.

May 26, 2013 11:02 PM
Pat & Steve Pribisko
Keller Williams Greater Cleveland West - Westlake, OH

Lenn, great analysis.  We have some buyer's agents who are charging administrative fees (either directly or indirectly, because their real estate company has pre-printed it the Purchase Agreement.  This means those buyer's agents should no longer advertise that their services are free to the buyer.

May 27, 2013 12:47 AM
Patricia Kennedy
RLAH@properties - Washington, DC
Home in the Capital
The fee is indeed paid from the sellers' proceeds, but who is coming up with the sellers' proceeds? Um. That would be the buyer?
May 27, 2013 01:53 AM
Dick Greenberg
New Paradigm Partners LLC - Fort Collins, CO
Northern Colorado Residential Real Estate

Hi Lenn - I know my point of view on this isn't much apprecaited, but there's (usually) only one party that brings money to the closing table, and that's the buyer. And it's his money that is used to pay everyone at the table.

May 27, 2013 02:43 AM
George Souto
George Souto NMLS #65149 FHA, CHFA, VA Mortgages - Middletown, CT
Your Connecticut Mortgage Expert

Lenn this is an excellent simple and clear explanation of the process.  There are Buyers that are under the impression that they will get a house at a cheaper price if they do not have a Buyers Agent, and use the Listing Agent.  In most cases the only thing that is less when they do that is the quality and amount of representation they get.

May 27, 2013 03:19 AM
Lenn Harley
Lenn Harley, Homefinders.com, MD & VA Homes and Real Estate - Leesburg, VA
Real Estate Broker - Virginia & Maryland

Pat and Steve.  You are certainly correct.  I don't charge an admin fee so the thought didn't occur.

Pat.  Of course.  It's true the buyer is bringing the funds, but without the house, there's no seller.  The buyer gets the house for their money.  When the seller gets the money, he pays the agent.

Dick.  Of course you're right, but the buyer gets a house in return for his money.  My focus here is where does the cash to pay agent's come from???  Not where does the money to buy the house come from.  It's quite circular I know. 

George.  BINGO!!

May 27, 2013 05:18 AM
Roger Stensland
Keller Williams Realty Puget Sound - Maple Valley, WA
Let's Move!

Lenn, thank you for the in-depth explanation of how the listing and buyer agents are paid.  My buyers are quite often surprised that they don't, in most cases, have to pay for my services.  I do have a buyer agency agreement that spells out that if they select a house that the seller is paying a very small commission, they will make up the difference.  So far, none of my buyers have ever had to pay anything toward my fees.  I find that disclosing this up front makes my buyers very careful about the houses they choose to look at.

May 27, 2013 06:37 AM
Lenn Harley
Lenn Harley, Homefinders.com, MD & VA Homes and Real Estate - Leesburg, VA
Real Estate Broker - Virginia & Maryland

Roger.  That's my experience too.  IN fact I believe that's one reason many buyers don't work with their own agent.  I get many questions about "how much does it cost me"????

 

May 27, 2013 07:14 AM
Brenda Mullen
RE/MAX Associates - San Antonio, TX
Your San Antonio TX Real Estate Agent!!

Suggested :)...By the way, here in San Antonio, the seller also pays owner's title insurance..the buyer will pay for the lender's portion.  

Generally a buyer doesn't pay an agent out of pocket directly and it amazes me when buyers don't use an agent.  Ah well, there are also those who think because a buyers agent is "FREE" that we are only door openers...all we can do is keep on educating lol :)!

May 27, 2013 07:29 AM
Andrea Swiedler
Berkshire Hathaway HomeServices New England Properties - New Milford, CT
Realtor, Southern Litchfield County CT

Lenn, very good explanation on where the commissions to agents comes from. And I always thank the seller too. Because I always go to the closing. I am amazed at how many agents don't attend though.

 

May 27, 2013 08:10 AM
Marc McMaster
RE/MAX Centre Realty - State College, PA
Putting my clients before myself

I always explain to my buyers when they sign the representation agreement that 99% of the time the seller pays my fee. 

May 27, 2013 12:05 PM
Carla Muss-Jacobs, RETIRED
RETIRED / State License is Inactive - Portland, OR

The listing agent co-ops their negotiated broker list fee by advertising a BAC (at least that's how we do it here).  The seller has agreed to pay the listing broker, the listing broker co-ops that as a BAC.  Oregon requires sellers to pay for title insurance.

May 27, 2013 12:16 PM
Joan Whitebook
BHG The Masiello Group - Nashua, NH
Consumer Focused Real Estate Services

It is an interesting discussion.  I have read several professionals who contend that the fee is partially paid by the buyer since the buyer is bringing the funds.. or that is it paid through the transaction. 

May 27, 2013 01:26 PM
Conrad Allen
Re/Max Professional Associates - Webster, MA
Webster, Ma, Realtor

Hi Lenn.  Why does the bank require separate title insurance?  They don't need separate fire insurance policies.

May 27, 2013 08:25 PM
Joe Petrowsky
Mortgage Consultant, Right Trac Financial Group, Inc. NMLS # 2709 - Manchester, CT
Your Mortgage Consultant for Life

I handle how I get paid right up front and during the mortgage application process. I never want any confusion about how I get paid.

Make it a great week!

May 27, 2013 09:38 PM
Lenn Harley
Lenn Harley, Homefinders.com, MD & VA Homes and Real Estate - Leesburg, VA
Real Estate Broker - Virginia & Maryland

Brenda.  It's been this way in my area since the mid 80s.  As long as the NAR give no more than lip service to buyer's agency, nothing will change.

Andrea.  I believe that they should refund about 20% of their fee when they don't attend closing.  Same with home inspections, etc.

Marc.  Good practice.

Carla.  Costs of settlement are to the buyer here.  It's in the contract.  Of course, it's negotiable, but the seller has the argument that, since they have the big cost of the agent fees. . . . .

Joan.  As I said, it's a circular argument.  The contrivances of the the NAR, the legislators, etc. just confuse consumers.  Agents can claim what they wish.  I was merely tracking the money.

Conrad.  They require it to protect their investment.  They don't require that the owner protect their own investment.

Joe.  It's a lot easier for lenders than agents, especially buyer's agents.

May 27, 2013 10:02 PM
Gary L. Waters Broker Associate, Bucci Realty
Bucci Realty, Inc. - Melbourne, FL
Eighteen Years Experience in Brevard County

Very nicely put. I just posted on my outside blog a response to a question by a buyer asking "How much will I owe you?"  I like you approach better than mine.

May 27, 2013 10:23 PM
Lenn Harley
Lenn Harley, Homefinders.com, MD & VA Homes and Real Estate - Leesburg, VA
Real Estate Broker - Virginia & Maryland

Gary.  Thanks.

May 28, 2013 12:04 AM