red dining roomSo I decided to paint my dining room red... I thought "they make it look so easy on television" but because red is a translucent color, it is a very complicated color to paint a room with.

If you decide to embark on this adventure and I use the nice term "adventure" loosely, you should be made aware of the proper way to paint with red. 

  1. Make sure you buy the best primer and have it tinted.  You will require at least two coats of primer.
  2. Make sure you get good quality paint and be prepared to put on at LEAST three coats, maybe four. (I have five on mine)
  3. If is important you wait 24 hours between coats. (When I was told this I thought the suggestion was a little over kill but it really doesn't cure properly before the 24 hours, seriously!)
  4. When you start a wall, make sure you have time to finish the whole wall at once.  You can't paint part of the wall and go for a coffee break. (or like in my my case, a beer break) it will leave a mark where you started again. 
  5. You MUST paint on wet paint.  Meaning, don't let it dry and expect to start again on dry paint, again, it will leave a line.
  6. MOST IMPORTANT TIP: You need to respect the rule of being exceptionally careful of the paint for, get this, 30 DAYS!  It really does not cure properly before 30 days!

I found out the hard way when I put my dining room back together. I leaned a spare chair against the wall and after only a couple of days, the chair stuck to the wall.  I had to pull the chair off the wall taking off paint approximately three inches long. 

I have a beautiful deep cranberry red dining room with a glaring white spot right in the middle of it.  Now if you knew how neurotic I was about details, you will know that my next project is an unplanned installation of a chair rail.

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14 Comments on WARNING! Painting with RED!

FEB
12
2008
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Tina, you are definitely right about red.  Flat---will usually work out "OK" but the glossier you get the less likely that big flat areas will be "successful"----much better as an accent color.  If you can get it right on a big flat surface it can be really cool (actually warm:)
6:34pm • #1
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Hi Tina....sounds like you had a heck of a time.  It takes experience to know how to work with painting in the deeper colors to avoid mistakes.  Something went wrong if you had to paint the red color 5 coats worth (and on top of the TWO COATS of tinted primer no less!!??!!).  There is one expensive name-brand paint which I know to be 'thinner' and very difficult to work with.  I am guessing that this brand may have been the culprit. 

For my taste, I do not care for the look of darker walls with a sheen in the finish.  Too many wall flaws stand out and it becomes more of an unflattering addition to a room's look, rather than a congruent flow.

Next time, I would suggest you trying out the brand new AURA line from Benjamin Moore. The composition of the paint is a whole different animal than the traditional make-up of paint and it's colorants.  It is a water-based paint, it handles deep-tinting very well and you can often get away with only ONE COAT of paint on top of the tinted primer!! Usually, I choose to do two coats anyway.  I use it in 'flat' and it has a very tiny bit of sheen....barely visible.  This AURA line is scrubbable...which is soooo important with the deeper paint colors.  Too many times I have wiped off smudges only to find that I had apparently removed a 'color' layer....oops!  Then you end up with a smudged wall with an area which has the color diluted!!  AArrghhh....

The problem you had with the chair sticking to the wall had more to do with the multiple layers of paint being painted on too closely timed together.   Glossy paint can need more time to 'cure' but chairs should not be sticking to it several days later.   Adding in a drying agent such as Japan Drier to the paint is also helpful in speeding the drying process but I usually only use this in oil-based paints.

So sorry for your unfortunate adventure....this is not typical when painting with darker colors I assure you!  Hope you had a lot of cold beer to drink during your breaks....BTW-The Red looks great!!  : )

Regards-Kathleen G

8:48pm • #2
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I painted my rec room "Exotic Red" many years ago and I had to get the primer tinted and it took about 3 coats of paint to get it right - I don't think I was told of the curing time or else I just didn't listen.  I loved it but have since painted it back to a nice neutral color, as I am thinking of selling this year.  Your dining room looks great so the trouble was worth it.
9:07pm • #3
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Wow!  Red is such a dramatic color!  If you are looking for drama, there it is!
10:01pm • #4
FEB
13
2008
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Tina,

A chair rail will look great in that room!

I had a wall painted by an old pro and it only took two coats. He painted it black first and then one coat of red. The color came out perfectly.

3:27am • #5
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Great tips!  Thanks!  I used what I thought was a good brand: Ralph Lauren, perhaps next time, if there is another next time, I'll take a combined approach to all your tips.
8:10am • #6
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I love the look of your room Tina! It seems like it was worth all the effort. I had a similar experience with red and it did take me 4 coats. It was a satin finish. I used a primer tinted with the same color, it came out pink. After the fact I learned that it should be gray (?). I was freaking out because I was getting paid to paint this and I hadn't ever painted with red before! The client saw the pink and freaked, then kept checking on me and the red was very mottled and disturbing looking! I has also read that the chemicals in red don't "play well" with the other chemicals in paint (?) In the end it looked great and you would have wondered what the big deal was. My only wish was that the client would have stayed away because he could see how nervous I was and that was making him nervous!

8:17am • #7
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Gee.....that was the very brand I was figuring you had used.  It is one of the worst paint brands I have ever experienced...and I never bought it again after working with it nearly 10 years ago.  People seem to love the RL color choices but don't realize that the paint quality is sub-par....all which simply becomes an expensive experiment.   
8:18am • #8
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Tina, I use to like red.(LOL)....  I think we'll continue to limit our reds to dramatic accessories.
8:19am • #9
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Good to know Kathleen, we should spread the word.  I think everyone should know that it took me 5 day/5nights to complete this project and if it can be avoided do so, buy the best paint - the first time.
3:19pm • #10
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Hi Tina...well, no doubt you thought that you were purchasing 'premium' paint!!  RL is not bottom of the barrel in price!! 

As soon as I read about the trouble you experienced, RL popped straight in my mind.  I worked with a client many years ago on a silver-ized bathroom using the RL metallic line.  It was a mess.  The Benjamin Moore rooms were delicious but the bath project using the RL paint was frustrating.  We used it one other time and had the same results and I simply decided that I would never support that paint brand again.

There must be a tactful way to let others know this truth.  So many clients LOVE the colors available in the RL line...and I always recommend color-matching it to a Benjamin Moore color.  The difference in paint quality is huge.  RL will not let HDepot color-match with their other brands and that is fine.  I am not a huge fan of Behr anymore.  Contractors grade available at the finer paint stores is often better quality paint than the home improvement stores' brands.

Your project should not have taken the effort and expense that you had to give.  My heart really went out to you!!  Regards-Kathleen G

3:51pm • #11
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Yes, red it tough to paint correctly.  My son wanted his room red...he picked out the most primary, red of reds you could find...but I talked him into more deep red with a more of a black base...Yes, 3 coats later it covered OK but it could use a fourth because you can see highs and lows from the stokes.  I decided against another coat because I figured once his loft bed went back in with all his posters and stuff, you wouldn't notice as much and you don't.  BUT, if it were in a primary living area, not the case...I would've gone for the extra coats. 

Your Dining Room looks great!  I'm sure you're happy with the results after all of that!  =)  Hope you're not planning on moving anytime soon!  (hahaha...just kiddin...)

4:04pm • #12
JUL
08
2008

i was wanting to paint my kitchen red because i have it decorated in apples................but i think you changed my mind lol  thanks

 

teresa
10:12pm • #13
MAY
04
2011

Tina, thanks for all the information and along with every one else on here. I am in the processe of painting a room red right now I just wish i would have read all this before my seconde coat and about to add a third coat lol.. OMG i been so fraustrated with this project but i do hope that it turns out good.

 

Thanks to all of you now time to get back to that red lol.... wish me luck.

Anthony
9:08am • #14


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