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The Truth About Credit Repair

How many times have you seen an advertisement for credit repair?  Countless times, I'm sure.  They all make promises of erasing bad credit with guaranteed results.  Well, as the old saying goes...if it sounds too good to be true, it probably is.  I chose to write about this because of my experience in helping clients' with their credit reports.  I've heard horror stories of people forking over $1,000 with virtually no results.  Even the guarantee they paid for agreed to rid the report of only 25% of the negative entries.  Think about it.  If you have 4 negative items, would you pay $1,000 to get rid of only one of them?  When you consider that they could have done the same thing themselves for free, it's downright nauseating!
Even people with good credit have inaccuracies on their credit reports.  If you have any inaccurate negative items on your report, it could cost you thousands in higher interest payments.  Also, by knowing how the scoring models work, even mild changes in how you carry your balances can make HUGE a difference in your scores.  I feel it's also important for everyone to know that low credit scores not only affect mortgage rates, but also auto loans, credit card rates, insurance rates, and even employment opportunities!  It's behooves you to keep a periodic check on your own credit report.  Most people don't know about the insurance rates, but ask your agent!  :-)

Why Do I Bother With The Concept of Credit Repair? 

When I first became a loan officer, the only leads I got were people that other lenders turned down.  I decided that if these lemons were the only leads Realtors would send my way, then I had to learn how to make some lemonade!  Through taking classes, researching other websites, joining internet bulletin boards, talking with attorneys, and a lot of trial and error, I found a recipe for lemonade that truly works!  I inadvertently created a "niche" service that no one else offers.  By increasing peoples' credit scores (some 100 points or more), I got these people approved for loans when no one else could.  I accomplished several things at the same time here.  The part that makes it all TRULY worth it is the feeling I get knowing that I helped some good people become HOMEOWNERS when everyone else told them "no" and they never thought it was possible.  I now had clients for life and earned referrals like you wouldn't believe.  I also showed those realtors how a really good mortgage consultant (such as Tony D. Howell..hehehe) turns lousy leads into qualified buyers.  This put money in their pockets and in mine.  Also, they now trust me with their more qualified leads.  They know I am going to take care of any client that they send my way.  Can you say win-win-win?  I love it!  Anyway, enough about me....

What Really IS a Credit Score?

A credit score is simply this:  "a numerical score which reflects a snapshot of a person's credit profile at one particular moment."  It's important to know that scores can and do fluctuate on a monthly or even weekly basis.  There are steps you can take that can influence that score if you know how they work. 

How Are Credit Scores Calculated?

Let's start by taking a look at how the computers calculate your score and how much weight is given to each category.  Simply knowing this information can increase your score by 20-50 points in just a few months (or decrease it if you don't understand it!)

  • 35% - Payment History
    The bottom line here is pay your bills on time!  As we all know, late payments are BAD.  Charge-offs, collections, judgments, foreclosures, and bankruptcies fall into this category. 
  • 30% - Ratio of Balances Owed
    Having maxed out credit cards is never a good sign of managing credit responsibly.  Ideally, you want to have your balances at around 30%-35% of the limit. 
  • 15% - Length of Credit History
    The longer you have had an account with a positive history, the more likely you will continue to pay your bills on time.  A lot of newly opened accounts here can be a negative thing.
  • 10% - Healthy Mix of Credit
    Most scoring models like to see various uses of credit.  Ideally...a mortgage loan, an installment account (one where the balance decreases each month) such as a car loan or student loan, and 4-5 revolving accounts such as credit cards.
  • 10% - Inquiries
    Credit scoring models don't like to see a lot of inquires for multiple types of accounts in a short amount of time.  This usually indicates financial instability and someone is searching for money to get out of a bind.

What Can I Do To Improve My Scores?

In relation to the categories above, take a look at your credit report (see below on how to obtain a free copy) and look where you may be lacking in any one or more categories.  FIRST AND FOREMOST, LOOK FOR INACCURACIES or anything older than 7 years!  If you do notice something that's plain wrong or outdated, dispute it!  (see below for details on how to dispute) 

  • If you have late payments, you have 2 options.  The first one will only work if its only one or two lates over a LONG period of time.  Call the company and ask nicely for it to be removed.  If they say no, ask for a supervisor.  Be nice, beg, beg, and beg some more, whatever!  This sounds crazy, but really is the simplest way to get late payments off.  Sometimes it works!  The second way is to start a dispute process.  Sometimes you get lucky and it's really easy.  Other times its a complicated, time-consuming process, but may be worth a shot.  I'll discuss this in much more detail later on...
  • If you have high balances on some cards but low ones on others, spread the balances around.  I've seen people consolidate credit cards from a few high interest cards to one low interest one to save money.  But for the sake of applying for a mortgage, temporarily transfer some of them back around to the magic 30%-35% of the credit limit.  Example: on a $1,000 card, no more than $350 on it.  Or just pay them down to that amount.  You get the idea.  Another thing to think about is American Express cards.  These are typically paid in full every month.  If you pay it off today and have your credit pulled tomorrow, it may still show as not paid.  You have to give them time to report your most recent payment history.  Most credit cards only report to the bureaus once per month.  When they report is anybody's guess.  Some only report once every 3 or 4 months.
  • By all means...NEVER, NEVER, NEVER close old accounts!  There seems to be this myth floating around out there that people should close their old accounts that they don't use anymore.  NOOOOO!!!!!  Bad idea, I cannot stress that enough!  You never want to lose years of a good payment history by closing them.  In fact, if you haven't used them for a couple years, they may have gone "stale" in the scoring model.  I say charge a tank of gas and pay it off when the bill comes to re-age them into the most recent scoring models.  Or transfer a portion of some other card's balance over to them temporarily. 
    Here's a good example of why you shouldn't close them.  Let's say you had 2 cards with a $5,000 limit and a $2,500 balance on each of them.  You had these cards for several years and one day you got a new $5,000 card with some 0% interest rate for 6 months and consolidated the balances with the new card.  You may be thinking, "Oh, a friend told me I should close those other accounts before applying for a mortgage."  Then you do it and here's what happens....you just went from having $15,000 worth of credit only owing a total of $5,000 and several years of solid payment history.....to having a $5,000 line of credit that is now maxed out and only a few months worth of payment history.  See what I'm getting at now?
  • Having a healthy mix of credit was pretty self-explanatory.  With the exception of 1 thing.  If you have an installment loan from a finance company such as Beneficial, the credit scoring computers have been programmed to know that most of their clients go there because of bad credit.  So it sometimes affects you negatively just by having an account with them, regardless of payment history.  If you have any accounts from high-risk finance companies, pay them off.  If you don't have any, keep it that way!  Go to a regular bank for an installment loan.
  • Inquiries, now this one can be tricky to understand.  Inquiries only ding your score by a few points each.  But if you go apply for a couple credit cards with Visa, a store credit card with Belk's, a gas card at Texaco, some credit line for furniture, a new car loan, and then a mortgage....that would spell TROUBLE!  Every single one of those inquiries can add up and make a substantial drop in score.  But here is the important flip side.  Inquires of the same type within 30-45 days only count ONCE!  What this means is that you can apply with 8 different mortgage brokers within 30 days and your score would only drop by about 5 points total.  The thing is, the scoring models have been updated to understand that people are much more financially savvy nowadays and they realize that people will shop around for the best deal.  This also applies for shopping for a car loan, but not and house and a car at the same time!

What About Paying Collections or Charge-offs?

This one is tricky.  If it is older than 3 years and less than $2,000, I wouldn't advise paying it.  WHAT?  That's right!  In NC (your state may differ) nobody can sue you in court after 3 years.  If the amount is less than $2k, its not that big of a deal anyway.  And if the debt is that old, its gone "stale" and isn't affecting your score that much anymore.  Besides, after 7 years it goes away anyway.  If you were to pay it now, it could update in the computer as Paid Collection.  Which seems better than a charge off, but by bringing it up into the present, it could actually lower your score because it's no longer stale.  If it's over $2,000,  or less than 3 years, you might consider a settlement for less than amount owed, which requires negotiation with the creditors.  If you have the money, only offer full repayment in exchange for complete removal from the credit bureaus.  They will tell you it can't be done, or that it's illegal, but remember you're talking to a collection company.  They want your money and will tell you anything they want.  Most employees aren't aware of the laws, and are trained improperly.  I know because I used to work for one, and I hated it.  I decided to make a career change where helping people can be so much more rewarding.

An interesting side note about collections and inaccuracies:  Lets say you have a $500 credit card from XYZ store and had been making late payments for 2 years.  At some point you just stop paying it altogether.  (Yeah, I know, but people do it all the time)  After XYZ exhausts all avenues of collection, they will sell the debt to a collection company for less than the balance owed.  The collection company may add additional fees, late charges, additional interest, etc. and trys to collect THAT amount from you.  If they can't collect, they will report you to the credit bureaus also.  Now XYZ can still report the former late payments but the amount owed should be zero.  But this isn't always the case.  Sometimes they both still report an unpaid balance, which is inaccurate.  Worse yet, if the collection company gets tired of not being able to collect, the debt is sold again for a fraction of the amount owed and another collection company harrasses you for an even higher amount.  This can happen over and over.  Meanwhile, each former collection company should delete their balance you owe them.  Most of the time they do not.  You could have 6 or 7 entries of collections on your credit report that are really the result of only one account.  Now this is illegal and gives you many reasons to dispute all of the accounts.  But if you didn't know that, you wouldn't do it.  You just accept that your credit sucks because you didn't pay your bills. 
Now lets say it got sold 6 times over 5 years.  The most recent collection company that owns it reports it as being opened this year and now you owe like $2,000.  Worse yet you owe anywhere from $500 to $2000 from each different collection company.  See the endless cycle of corruption?  You now assume it will be 6 more years before this new one goes away.  But in reality, your last late payment with XYZ was over 7 years ago.  Can you say OUTDATED?  Yup, FCRA says that this info is now outdated and obsolete and all you have to do is ask for it to be removed and it goes away.  But not just the XYZ account...ALL the collection accounts related to that original XYZ account must now be taken off.  This is important information that most people just don't know.  This is the one type of dispute that works really well!  Imagine the difference in score when 7 collections go away at once by writing one letter!

How Do I Get  A Free Copy Of My Credit Report? 

The best place to obtain one is http://www.annualcreditreport.com/.  You will not get a free credit score here, but you can request a copy of your report from each of the three credit bureaus.  You can purchase a score from each or all of them, but you don't need a score to make sure the credit report is accurate.  For a free credit score, call your local mortgage broker.  If he or she won't do it, call me!  (shameless plug)
Do NOT go to http://www.freecreditreport.com/ that is blasted all over TV!  It is NOT free!!!  They will want you to give them a credit card for a trial of their credit monitoring service!  If you don't cancel it, they will start billing you every month for something you don't need.  Additionally, the scores they give you are NOT accurate.  A Realtor friend of mine tried that "free" site.  As you know, Realtors write off everything, and she needed a "stated" loan to qualify for her next purchase on an investment property.  But when I pulled her score, she realized the "free" site overstated her credit score more than 70 points, and now could not get the stated loan she needed.  I can get her score back up, but it takes time and that particular deal was lost.  If she had come to me sooner, I could have got her on the right track in time to save the deal.

How Do I Dispute Inaccurate Items On a Credit Report?

The FTC establihed the Fair Credit Reporting Act (FCRA) so that the average consumers can dispute inaccurate items on their credit report.  The easiest way to dispute items is to file an online dispute at each of the credit bureaus' websites.  The credit bureaus have 30 days to investigate each dispute with the creditor and report their findings back to you.  As I said earlier, you could get lucky.  If during the investigation the creditor fails to respond back to the credit bureau in the 30 day window, the item could go away.  However, if they do eventually respond, it could show back up.  That isn't very likely, but it could happen.  These disputes usually just come back as "verified" anyway.  An article from the FTC about disputes can be found here.  That's some good advice if you have all the documentation to prove you weren't late 5 years ago.  Or you have some way of proving that you didn't open an account that is showing up in your name.  See what I'm getting at?  I've done what the FTC said to do, and got mediocre results. 

Are There Other Ways To Dispute Items?

This is the real reason I started writing this blog...so pay attention!  The process can be a bit complicated and time consuming.  Removing negative entries from a credit report is always a touchy subject.  If a client tells me that he needs my help removing this item because he really wasn't late, then I feel compelled to help him.  The most important thing to remember is that I believe in the old "innocent until proven guilty" mentality.  How can one prove that they really weren't responsible for these negative entries when they never really happened?  What proof can one provide about an account they never opened?  I believe that if these things really did happen and the late payments and charge-off's are legitimate, then its up to the creditors and credit bureaus to prove it.  By using the laws afforded to us by the FCRA and carefully wording dispute letters, we can force the creditors and credit bureaus into doing just that, obeying the federal law.  If they can't or won't prove it, then the items disappear.  However, I don't recommend that anyone outright lie about a negative entry, it's just not ethical!  The following information is for people with genuine inaccuracies.  I have used the following techniques with great success.  I have compiled about 50 different letters on my hard drive for disputing different types of issues.  I am confident that almost anything can be removed with enough due-diligence.  However, if you legitimately have bad credit, then proceed at your own risk.  Please know that I am not an attorney, and the following information is purely for educational purposes only!

  1. The first step is to obtain a copy of all three credit reports.
  2. Write a letter to all 3 bureaus disputing any old or outdated personal information.  This includes old addresses, wrong addresses, wrong birthdays, aliases or misspelled names, and old employment information.  Don't even bother with account disputes just yet, unless they're older than 7 years.  THIS STEP IS CRUCIAL!  (Everybody has these inaccuracies on their credit report, I don't care who you are...I even had them on mine!)  Be sure to include a copy of your driver's license with current address, your social security card, and a recent piece of mail (such as a utility bill) with the correct name and address.  This is the easiest letter to write.  Make copies of all letters you send from here on out.  Send each letter certified mail with return receipt requested!  Write down the dates they were mailed, the dates you get the green cards back, the dates you get responses, and save all receipts from the post office.
  3. You will get the green cards back (SAVE THESE) in a few days.  After about 30 days, you should receive updated reports and the old/outdated personal info should be gone.
  4. Look at the new credit reports for any old accounts with late payments on them.  Dispute 3 or 4 of these items (not all 20 of them at once...if you have 20 negative items, you're obviously lying to start with, you really just don't pay your bills!) with a new letter to each of the credit bureaus.  Now that old addresses are gone, the chances are much higher that these items don't match the records on file from the original creditors.  Chances are pretty good that these will go away as well, especially if they are more than 3 or 4 years old.  Always remember to send the letters certified mail return receipt requested (CMRRR).
  5. In about 30 days, you'll get some updated reports.  If they do go away, start the process with 3 or 4 more items.  Repeat this process as many times as needed.  Now some of the items won't go away the first time; they'll just say "verified".  If that happens, you write a letter to each CREDITOR (not credit bureau) asking for "VALIDATION" of the debt including a copy of the original agreement signed by you, detailed account statements reflecting the calculation of the debt they say you owe, and records of any payment histories.  Clearly state that a copy of a final bill is not validation and is unacceptable, you want VALIDATION!  Ask for them not to publish any erroneous information about you to anyone until this matter is resolved, including the credit bureaus.  Again, send the letters CMRRR.
  6. Now the process gets tricky.  As soon as you get the green card back, fire off another letter to the credit bureaus disputing the account that you just disputed with each creditor.  This is called a "one-two punch" and usually VERY effective.  Now if it comes back verified again from the credit bureau before you receive the validation of the debt from the creditor, there is a violation of FCRA law.  No creditor is allowed to verify a debt with the credit bureau during a current validation dispute.  You may able to sue the individual creditors for actual damages, attorney fees, court costs, etc.  But again, consult your attorney before considering proceeding with any such legal action. 
  7. If any law was broken, write another strongly worded letter threatening to sue the creditors for their willful violation of FCRA laws.  Quoting actual statutes they violated is a nice touch.  This final punch usually gets you a carefully worded apology and a letter stating that you don't owe anything and all negative entries from their company will be removed from all credit bureau files immediately.
  8. If at any time the original creditor provides the requested validation, and it is accurate...then I will no longer help with any credit repair.  The usual response is, "Oh I must have forgotten about that."  Or something to that effect.  But hey, it's their lie, they can tell it like they want to. If they still want a loan, I'll help them get whatever I can at whatever rate is available to them.  (If they still want to do credit repair on their own, they can do it without my knowledge or sample letters.) 
  9. Medical collections are usually the hardest things to remove although FCRA has specific statutes about them and the Final Rule of the HIPPA makes sharing public information about medical records illegal.  This specifically includes past, present, and future payments of health care.  Why medical collections even show up on a credit report is beyond me, but I see them all the time.  I don't understand them because most of the time these are the result of people going to the doctor, paying their co-pay, and leaving the rest to insurance.  Then the insurance pays a portion of the bill (they should have paid it all), and the remaining amount gets sold to a collection agency.  The consumer may not even know about it until years later when they apply for a mortgage.  Where's the paperwork now?  Oh yeh, it's gone.  There should be a law against this type of corruption, but fighting insurance companies is like fighting big tobacco.  The bright side is that lenders don't consider medical collections against you, but those collections do affect your scores.  I am still trying to figure this one out and when I conquer this battle, I'll keep you guys posted!

Where Can I Find More Information About FCRA?

An explanation of FCRA is available from the FTC and can be found here.  An actual copy of FCRA can be found here, but it's almost impossible for most people to understand any of its legal jargon.  I strongly recommend everyone check out the first link!  Consumer's rights get violated everyday, but most people don't know what their rights really are.  Creditors know this and exploit this fact because they know they can get away with it.  Since people don't usually call them out on it, what are the chances that they'll keep doing it?  You guessed it!

Where Can I Find Example Letters To Write To The Credit Bureaus?

There is a letter straight from the FTC that can be found on their article "Credit Repair: Self Help May Be Best".  However, that is just one form letter that may not reflect you actual situation.  I've found some other letters that are written for most of the different steps I described above.  These letters can be found at www.mix6.com/credit.  This is also one of the best self-help websites I've seen that actually tells people what to do, how to do it, examples of letters, and it really is free
Another really good site for information on all sorts of credit issues is http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/credit-repair.  They have more sample letters for almost any situation and you can freely post a question to the group if you can't find your answer.  There is some good advice on how and when to proceed on legal issues when creditors or the credit bureaus themselves violate the law.  Search the archives, files, and database that they have there.  GREAT info!!  I've almost become a regular on there. 

Are There Any "Magic Tricks" That I Can Do To Boost My Credit Score Quick?   

**UPDATE:  This loophole was phased out at the end of 2007.  I am leaving it in here because you may have heard or read about it somewhere.  It used exist and could be used with no problem.  However, too many people took advantage of the system and exploited it for financial gain by charging people money to add their name on someone else's card.  The system has been changed.**
There sure is!  The best way (and it's LEGAL) is to become an authorized user or "piggy back" on someone else's credit card.  The only hard part is finding the right person's card to piggy back on.  The idea is that you need someone that already has good credit, does not have a co-signer on the account, has had the card for a long time, has a low balance on it, and a perfect payment history!  Chances are a parent or other relative may have one of these cards just hanging out in their wallet.  See if they will add you as an authorized user.  There is NO RISK to them whatsoever!  What happens is that the credit card company will issue the parent (or whoever) a new card with your name on it.  When they receive it, tell them to cut it up, you never want to see it or charge anything on it.  Then the good payment history that they had for all this time somehow pops up on your credit report.  None of your other credit history will ever show up on their report, and none of their other credit shows up on yours.  This is an amazing tool!  The catch?  If they have a high balance on the card, it hurts your debt-to-income ratio.  Additionally, if they have a poor payment history now or in the future, it reflects negatively on you as well, so choose carefully! 

Another good thing to do is go to http://www.optoutprescreen.com/ and register.  This site was also set up by the FTC to stop pre-screened offers of credit in the mail.  It takes a couple months for the offers to finally stop, but I haven't received one in years!  The only credit I get, I ask for directly.  Now they claim that by doing this, it doesn't affect your score, but I believe otherwise.  Regardless of that, I believe that by stopping these random credit card offers from circulating in the mail, you decrease your chances of identity theft. 

What Should I Do In Case Of Identity Theft?

WOW!  That's a completely different blog that I intend on tackling at a later time!  In the meantime, check out the FTC's advice, which can be found here.

What Other Credit Advice Can You Offer?

Well it's taken many hours to write and compile this blog.  I've tried to cover the most common questions I've been asked during my career.  I could go on and on about specific situations, but that could take forever.  If you have specific questions, please feel free to email them to me.  I might just post your question in a future blog or newsletter.  You might also want to look at the many other consumer reports from the FTC that can be found here.  Thanks for reading my blog.  I hope it helps a lot of people!

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61 Comments on The Truth About Credit Repair and Credit Scoring

JAN
24
2007
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sadly, for every good credit consultant... there are 100 credit repair scammers.

they send nothing but frivilous disputes.

9:14am • #1

That was a great post, Tony! I learned the hard way how paying off really old collections does more harm than good.

 I have also heard about the "piggy back" strategy as well.  I've heard that the credit bureaus are working on ways to detect that, and not assign the full value as the original account owner. Some have gone so far to say it would even penalize the piggy backer. Have you heard anything about that?  I've done some research on the net, and can't seem to find a solid answer.  I'm leaning towards it's just a rumor, because I've seen many instances where a credit bureau had things on a report that were just outright wrong, so how will they be able to accuratley detect something like that??

Would like to hear your input on that when you have time.

 

9:31am • #2
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Tony,

Great post, thanks for sharing your information with us.

Gary

9:37am • #3
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Very informative post.  I'm bookmarking this for us and for future reference.  Thanks!
1:53pm • #4

Thanks guys!  I really didn't think I had much to add to the community, I thought most people already knew what I know.  After snooping around on the blogs, I realized that someone with personal experience needed to squash a few myths and share some much needed knowledge!

David, as far as the "piggy-back" method goes... we WANT the credit bureaus to detect this activity and add this new info to the new person's credit file.  There is nothing wrong or illegal about doing it at all.  The fact is, they allow it and it's something they commonly do.  Since they throw out the welcome mat for it...I say step on it!  But they can penalize the piggy-backer if late payments are on there.  I'm not sure of the actual weight, but I would assume its the same as any co-borrower or other authorized user on any other account. 

I don't think the credit bureaus have a clue as to what is going on.  The keep records on millions of people with millions of  account records pouring in every day.  The computer sorts it out and reports only what another computer tells them is correct.  The computers believe it.  It's up to us to tell them that they're wrong and get some actual humans to really look at individual records.  They do commonly report wrong things on reports...I've had totally strange names, addresses from other states, and accounts that do not belong to me pop on mine.  I used myself as a guinea pig before using the strategies on my clients.  This is how I know they work.  Most innacuracies are caused by the "fat-finger" syndrome when someone, somewhere punches in some wrong numbers and things get crossed up.  If nobody catches it, the computers keep reporting it as accurate.  These kinds of things are why FCRA laws were created to begin with!  Thanks again for all the great comments and emails, guys!

Tony D. Howell  :-)

3:51pm • #5
Bravo Tony!  Your Awesome!
7:35pm • #6
JAN
27
2007

Interesting post and responses, Tony.  My only concern is the "piggy back."  I know it's legal for someone to use this to fix their credit, but how about for us as loan officers to recommend it or to knowingly present a credit report with a score obtained through this strategy to our lenders. 

 Every lender contract I have has wording to the effect that my loan application contains no "misinformation or mistatement of material fact," and that I have no knowledge or information regarding the abaility of the borrower to repay....  If I knowingly submit this credit I am in ethical violation at a bare minimum.  If I recommended or aided in this effort (dare I say legal deception) I should think the words "mortgage fraud," "repurchase," and other unsavory terms would be a part of my subsequent conversations with the lender.  Ata bare minimum I would sour my lender relationship and probably no longer be allowed to submit loans to them.

By the way, it's not always too tough to spot this.  The 23 year old with aa 96 month review rating of a perfect account, the report with collections, late pays, bounced check collections at Mc Donalds and a sterling 52 month account with a $10,000 limit and a $400 balance are pretty surefire give aways.  The underwritier's will likely notice this as well.  I'd love to see the reaction when the LOX sys "we piggy backed his Grandma's MasterCard to the account to help the score."

 Just because it's legal, doesn't mean it's right!

 

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12:57pm • #7

Terry,
Intersting comment.  I see your point of view, but I don't agree with it.  It's not really fixing anything but just giving an additional boost.  If the credit bureaus allow it and they're ok with it, I don't see a problem.  As a wise friend once told me, "If they throw out the welcome mat, I'm gonna step on it!"  It's the credit card companies that are unethical to begin with and I have no problem taking advantage of a scenario that they allow.  Remember that this method can backfire....if the original card holder lets the account go bad, it has the same negative affect on the authorized user.  Also, if they charge up a high balance, it affects their debt-to-income ratio.  IMO that's what balances this out and makes it really fair.  (I've never had any underwriter's or lenders have any problems with this either.) 

1:12pm • #8
JAN
29
2007

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3:31pm • #9
JAN
30
2007
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Terry,

I touched on your concerns in my blog.

http://activerain.com/blogsview/22154/The-dangers-of-Credit

In a nutshell: If the borrower can piggy back onto spouse's credit.... I am ok with that. Because that spouse probably has a financial responsibility for that line of credit.

If the borrower goes out and has mom & dad add them to a bunch of good credit cards and their score skyrockets.... then I would have a hard time with that.

 

9:28am • #10
257,615 Points 6 Featured Posts Outside Blog
I thought the first blog I read about this last week was good but yours is outstanding.
2:25pm • #11
MAR
07
2007
Great Job Tony. Would you mind if I take a summary of this for my buyer's handbook? I appreciate the time you took to put this together. Thanks!
5:24pm • #12
MAR
17
2007
1,600,631 Points 154 Featured Posts Outside Blog Attended Rain Camp Called Shot Master

$1000? I actually just had a buyer that had to buy on owner financing because they had a credit repair company charge them $15,000 and their credit score actually went down over the next year.

Todd

1:54pm • #13
160,513 Points 8 Featured Posts Outside Blog

Thanks for taking the time to break it all down, great information to pass along to buyers.

4:08pm • #14
APR
06
2007
Thank you so much for your blog. I just began working on my credit repair and as soon as I read this I followed one of your steps and the same day got results! Thank you so much for posting this information because many  people don't know the true facts and have no clue what to do. Thanks again! 
A Payne
12:27pm • #15

Good information. People should look at their own credit at least once a year to be sure that it is correct.

 I recently had a customer apply for a mortgage. They are from Washington state and brought along a letter from  their CPA to list all their assets in order to get a mortgage.

 They make $250,000 per year

They had 500 K liquid and 11M non liquid

Her credit 800 all three agencies

His 801,640,0  The 640 had twelve judgements listed, the zero said deceased. Both being incoorect by the way.

He was very surprised by this. They had not seen their credit scores in a very long time.

Make sure your report is correct. 

 

 

 

 

2:20pm • #16
thank you so much for all the wonderful insight.  I have taken many notes on this discussion and am going to bring it to my staff.  With everything that is going on in the industry right now scores are playing a very big role.  thank you very much.
4:45pm • #17
JUN
03
2007

   Great post, a lot of my clients would just rather pay the credit company I found here in Charlotte, they work, have language problems and are just completely over whelmed. As far as credit piggybacking I have done if for some of my clietns and will contunue to do it. When the mortgage broker tells them to do it and they have no one else then I feel It's part of my due deligence to get my people into a home.

   Drop me an email we are not too far apart, maybe we can work together

2:43pm • #18
JUL
16
2007

Great post!!!!

 A few points:

You say:

  • Inquiries, now this one can be tricky to understand.  Inquiries only ding your score by a few points each.  But if you go apply for a couple credit cards with Visa, a store credit card with Belk's, a gas card at Texaco, some credit line for furniture, a new car loan, and then a mortgage....that would spell TROUBLE!  Every single one of those inquiries can add up and make a substantial drop in score.  But here is the important flip side.  Inquires of the same type within 30-45 days only count ONCE!  What this means is that you can apply with 8 different mortgage brokers within 30 days and your score would only drop by about 5 points total.  The thing is, the scoring models have been updated to understand that people are much more financially savvy nowadays and they realize that people will shop around for the best deal.  This also applies for shopping for a car loan, but not and house and a car at the same time!
  • So true, IF the computer recognizes the inquiries as such.. But if they just say ABC bank, you might get hit for a score drop.  If so, dispute the inquiry.

    re: Collections-

    "This one is tricky.  If it is older than 3 years and less than $2,000, I wouldn't advise paying it.  WHAT?  That's right!  In NC (your state may differ) nobody can sue you in court after 3 years.  If the amount is less than $2k, its not that big of a deal anyway.  And if the debt is that old, its gone "stale" and isn't affecting your score that much anymore.  Besides, after 7 years it goes away anyway.  If you were to pay it now, it could update in the computer as Paid Collection.  Which seems better than a charge off, but by bringing it up into the present, it could actually lower your score because it's no longer stale.  If it's over $2,000,  or less than 3 years, you might consider a settlement for less than amount owed, which requires negotiation with the creditors.  If you have the money, only offer full repayment in exchange for complete removal from the credit bureaus.  They will tell you it can't be done, or that it's illegal, but remember you're talking to a collection company.  They want your money and will tell you anything they want.  Most employees aren't aware of the laws, and are trained improperly.  I know because I used to work for one, and I hated it.  I decided to make a career change where helping people can be so much more rewarding."

    VERY good, but- Be careful here- most states are 6-7 years, so do a little research here.

    But, ANYONE can sue you in court (with or without cause).  And, if you don't respond, or show, they WILL get a judgement, which is GOLD.  Even if the prevailing suit is BS, if they get a judgement, they CAN collect from you.

    So, the lesson- ALWAYS answer all (even BS) suits filed.

    "The best place to obtain one is http://www.annualcreditreport.com/.  You will not get a free credit score here, but you can request a copy of your report from each of the three credit bureaus.  You can purchase a score from each or all of them, but you don't need a score to make sure the credit report is accurate.  For a free credit score, call your local mortgage broker."

    Very good for the free report, but as far as buying the scores- total BS.  the only one who sells the true FICO score is Equifax.  The other 2 sell their totaly worthless in-house score (20% either way).  The only place to go to buy your true FICO scores is to FICO.  Duh!!!  http://www.myfico.com/

    "The FTC establihed the Fair Credit Reporting Act (FCRA) so that the average consumers can dispute inaccurate items on their credit report.  The easiest way to dispute items is to file an online dispute at each of the credit bureaus' websites.  The credit bureaus have 30 days to investigate each dispute with the creditor and report their findings back to you.  As I said earlier, you could get lucky.  If during the investigation the creditor fails to respond back to the credit bureau in the 30 day window, the item could go away.  However, if they do eventually respond, it could show back up.  That isn't very likely, but it could happen. "

    Sorry, WAAAAYYY off.  I've beeen doing this for 20 years , and.... wrong. 

    If you do an on-line dispute, then the bureaus can also use this venue (email) to send to the creditors, as opposed to the very time, and labor consuming process of the US mail.  Anything that is not verified within 30 days MUST be removed.  Which do you think is easier for the bureaus?

    "These disputes usually just come back as "verified" anyway. 

    Wrong again.  I've been doing this for longer than I care to admit, and my 1st round deletion average is 57%.  Only about 15% of the deleted items get re-reported IN VIOLATION of the law (they have to notify you within 5 days of re-insertion, if not, they are in violation of federal law.) 

    An article from the FTC about disputes can be found here.  That's some good advice if you have all the documentation to prove you weren't late 5 years ago.  Or you have some way of proving that you didn't open an account that is showing up in your name.  See what I'm getting at?  I've done what the FTC said to do, and got mediocre results."

    "Duh?  You listened to the government, and were surprised you didn't get what you wanted?

    "Look at the new credit reports for any old accounts with late payments on them.  Dispute 3 or 4 of these items (not all 20 of them at once...if you have 20 negative items, you're obviously lying to start with, you really just don't pay your bills!) "

    What?  If they really aren't yours-go after them.  I have had numerous clients who were the victime of identity theft, Sr- Jr-, etc.  Are you saying they are liars?  I didn't think so. But, you are right- if you just blatantly challenge everything it will be tossed as a frivilous challenge.

    "Medical collections are usually the hardest things to remove although FCRA has specific statutes about them and the Final Rule of the HIPPA makes sharing public information about medical records illegal.  This specifically includes past, present, and future payments of health care."

    Actually, this makes them some of the easiest to get rid of.  HIPPA is the ultimate hammer when it comes to this.

    Are There Any "Magic Tricks" That I Can Do To Boost My Credit Score Quick?   

    There sure is!  The best way (and it's LEGAL) is to become an authorized user or "piggy back" on someone else's credit card.  The only hard part is finding the right person's card to piggy back on.  The idea is that you need someone that already has good credit, does not have a co-signer on the account, has had the card for a long time, has a low balance on it, and a perfect payment history!  Chances are a parent or other relative may have one of these cards just hanging out in their wallet.  See if they will add you as an authorized user.  There is NO RISK to them whatsoever!  What happens is that the credit card company will issue the parent (or whoever) a new card with your name on it.  When they receive it, tell them to cut it up, you never want to see it or charge anything on it.  Then the good payment history that they had for all this time somehow pops up on your credit report.  None of your other credit history will ever show up on their report, and none of their other credit shows up on yours.  This is an amazing tool!  The catch?  If they have a high balance on the card, it hurts your debt-to-income ratio.  Additionally, if they have a poor payment history now or in the future, it reflects negatively on you as well, so choose carefully!

    This is changing.  Because of all the fraud involved in the selling of authorized user accounts, and trade lines (and, yes, people do go to jail for abusing this) Fair Isaac & Co, (FICO) will no longer include AU (Authorized Users) in their calculations starting in Sept.

    You have a lot of good info, you just need to update it.

    Keep up the good work.

    11:15pm • #19
    JUL
    17
    2007

    Michael has a few good points here - mostly reiterating what Tony has already told us and clarifying a couple of things (like state requirements for bad credit lines becoming noncollectable).  However, I have to dispute his comment, "the only one who sells the true FICO score is Equifax.  The other 2 sell their totally worthless in-house score (20% either way)."  The first part is correct Equifax is the only source of "FICO" (r) score.  However the Scores from Trans Union and Experian are equally valid measures of credit worthiness and valuable since they may include reporting FICO doesn't (creditors are not require to report at all, and many smaller creditors only report to one or two repositories.  This local phenomena makes different scoring models more accurate in different geographical areas as many smaller lenders in one ara will group to a specific repository.  That aside, calling TU and Experian "worthless in-house scores" is a grave error.  As long as virtually every lender uses the "middle of three or lower of two" rule for scoring - and this includes FNMA in DU - those two scores are as important as FICO.  Simple math says that FICO is the selected score in only one of three applications.

    Another consideration is with collection accounts.  All too often as they approach the statutory date for non-collectability they are sold to another collector.  While legally the clock should not restart at this time, the reality is that in the vast number of collections it does affect score.  Since they often change the account number (or truncate it) upon transfer of the account, the scoring algorithm simply assumes that it is a new collection, it is active, and the score is decremented.

     

    In all, this is an extremely complicated subject, and from what I've been told by folks who work with them at the repositories even the programmers of the algorithm aren't always able to clearly predict what a change will do.  They algorithm's are as closely guarded an industrial secret as the formula for Bailey's Irish Cream or the source code for Windows Vista, so at best we can only offer educated guesses as to what any change will do.  Another reason we as mortgage professionals must keep educated.

    x x
    9:14pm • #20
    JUL
    18
    2007
    Thanks Terry!  You are sooo right!
    Tony D. Howell
    10:45am • #21
    JUL
    20
    2007
     

    Great Topic and Useful information.  

    I am new to active rain and find it amazing how much can be learned just by reading blogs.

    8:26am • #22
    AUG
    02
    2007
    224,805 Points 3 Featured Posts Outside Blog
    I book-marked your post for further review... found it very informative. Thanks
    2:00pm • #23
    AUG
    04
    2007

    Great help! I have been looking for answer on this subject for months...

    Thanks

    marita
    3:11pm • #24
    AUG
    14
    2007

    IS IS TRUE WHAT THEY SAY ABOUT PIGGYBACKING?  WHAT IF YOU PIGGYBACKED ON SOMEONE'S ACCOUNT

    PRIOR TO SEPTEMBER. WELL FICO STILL CONSIDER YOUR SCORE RETRO ACTIVE?

    MIA
    11:41am • #26
    AUG
    31
    2007

    My husband and I wanted to buy a home so we pulled our credit reports and scores from different credit services. guess what they all has different scores and different stuff on them. then when we were getting preapproval they got even lower scores and reports. why is this happening. so how do you really know what your scores are. my husband bougt a truck when they pulled up his scores they had him a 580 he had pulled his own scores they had him at 620. well because the dealer had lower scores we were charged a high interest rate. now how do we know this is not a scam to help lenders make more money off of high interest rates?  need help in finding out..I cant get the house till we get our scores higher.

    thanks

    Lori Meyer

    Lori Meyer
    6:34am • #27

    Lori - I know what you're going through, because I've been there as well.  I am a mortgage broker and I can assure you its not a scam to increase rates.  What happens is that the scoring system, as it has become more sophisticated, has been tweaked to target specific uses of the borrowed money.  In simplest terms, the score you pull, the one the auto dealer pulls, the one the insurance company pulls, and the one I pull for mortgage use may all be different because the scoring algorithms(s) can use past history to make its determination of repayment/payment probabilities by type of loan.  For example, according to my credit guru at one of the major credit providers a person with a significant late payments and collections for medical billing would find his score impacted more for insurance purposes than for a credit card.

     As to higher scores, the best way to get them and keep them is to use your available credit regularly and make timely payments of your bills.  Keep the overall ratio of debt to available credit on each individual account below 35%.  Don't take action on collection accounts that have last reported two years or longer in the past (they are not used in generating score) until after you have bought your house unless required by the lender (not the broker).  If you have more then four or five credit card type (revolving) accounts, close those which are newest, and never close an account with over 24 months of history when younger accounts exist. When closing accounts, be sure to keep at least 3 or 4 revolving accounts open.

    That list isn't all inclusive, and as credit scoring algorithms change some of the ideas on it may take on greater or lesser importance in your score.  Such is the game of credit scoring.

    Lori, I wish you luck with this and if I can be of further help, my contact info is on my AR home page.

    x x
    7:58am • #28
    Lori, Terry is correct.  There are different scores for different purposes.  When I pull someone's credit I use a credit provider.  I use either Online Mortgage Reports or First American Credco.  A car dealership may use a different provider.  I have to buy the credit report.  I have zero influence on what that score is.  It just is what it is when I pull it.  The best way to know your score is to just go to a mortgage lender.  I have had several people who got their own score off the internet and they were never accurate.  So don't waste your time going to any website.  Just go to a mortgage lender.  Good luck with improving your score!
    9:23am • #29
     Thank you for the help. What kind of scores do you need to buy a home at 5,25 rates?
    Lori Meyer
    10:18pm • #30
    SEP
    01
    2007
    5.25% rate???  LOLOLOLOLOL  Ain't gonna happen at any score at the moment.  Currently the best rate available with 1% orig. fee is gonna be about 6.25%  And that's with perfect credit.  Unless you buy it down with about 2 or 3 buy-down points.  I don't control rates, Wall Street does.....
    1:33am • #31
    One of the new house developments is offering a rate of 5.25. thats why I asked. But only if you go through the company they offer it with and if you have the right scores. so thats why I wanted to know what kind of scores you need.
    Lori
    3:15am • #32
    SEP
    02
    2007

    I'd bet the developer selling the homes is somehow paying the buydown points.  He want's you to use his preferred mortgage company and I'd expect he gets some type of preference from them for future business, or perhaps they are generating buyers for the project, or some other type of service compensation in which the builder does his thing and the lender helps promote the project to his prequalified customers.

     

    What do you think, Tony?  As long as it's not a cash or gift type of exchange it would probably be legitinate under section x.

    x x
    8:43am • #33
    SEP
    03
    2007
    SEP
    04
    2007
    yup, you nailed it Terry.  Well,  either that or its a teaser rate just to get their phone to ring.  When you don't get it, they can always say, "that rate is only for exceptionally qualified borrowers, and you dont quite fit the criteria" or, "well when that ad was published it was accurate, but the rates have gone up since then."  I hate LO's like that.  grrrrrr
    2:00am • #35
    SEP
    05
    2007
    Great information.  My wife and I are looking to buy a new house shortly.  However, after pulling our credit reports, there was a lot of misinformation that lowered my score to 550.  My wife has a score of 760 but she doesn't work.  How do the lenders look at the two different scores to make their decisions?  We have a strong mortgage history with a strong cash flow.  What would you recommend?
    John Cunningham
    12:43am • #36
    If her income is strong enough to cover the debt ratios, leave your name off the loan.  Something is bringing you down and nobody wants to see that on a loan app.  When you have 2 borrowers, they take the lowest one as the score to use unless you are going subprime.  My guess is you don't want to do that unlesss you plan on refinancing within 2-3 years....
    2:26am • #37
    SEP
    23
    2007
    243,851 Points 22 Featured Posts Outside Blog
    Thank you very much for this thorough post. This one is going into my very own "featured posts" list.
    6:08pm • #38
    NOV
    30
    2007
    There are good ones and there are bad out there. If a company can actually take your credit from say 460 to 700 then I am sure most borrowers would agree that this is money well spent. If they don't get it up at least 50 points then it is a waste of money.The difference between a loan at 6% and 8% over 30 years I am sure you will agree would most certainly justify using a "Reputable" credit repair company.
    Rick Goates
    2:51pm • #39
    DEC
    05
    2007
    Good information. Very detailed. Thanks.
    4:31pm • #40
    105,739 Points 4 Featured Posts Localism Sponsor Attended Rain Camp

    Excellent, Excellent post    thanks for the concise info..   i have seen all this many times but you have laid this out masterful -   you should publish a book!


    6:58pm • #41
    DEC
    08
    2007
    Thanks for the advice, I found www.newdaycreditconsultants.com
    and they removed 12 negative items from my credit history.
    Mike Hawk
    3:23am • #42
    200,537 Points 27 Featured Posts Outside Blog Attended Rain Camp Called Shot Master

    The company we use charges 350 - and if the person uses us for the mortgage - we will credit that back at closing.  Tony is that what you are doing??  Or are you actually doing it yourself (I know you can it becomes a matter of having the time).

    6:52am • #43
    5 Featured Posts
    Awesome post! Can I syndicate this?
    4:14pm • #44
    DEC
    12
    2007

    Eleanor, no...I used to do it for a few friends and family and still give advice.  Time is the main thing.  For any clients, I give them this info for them to do it themselves or refer them to the company on my website so they can let the company do it all for them.  I've had a couple of them use it and it has worked out pretty well. 

    I checked into new day credit consultants...their fees were a bit higher than the other place I recommend but sounded competent enough to do the job.

    3:18pm • #45
    Do you have any advice on credit repair specialists at www.newdaycreditconsultants.com ? I need credit repair and am still in college. Im only 20 and have bad credit from credit cards. My uncle said they are legitimate but the internet says that you need to watch out.
    Sandy
    5:53pm • #46
    1 Featured Post

    Great posting. Credit scores has been such a mystery.  You're breakdown of the percentage is outstanding!

    Thanks

    9:54pm • #47
    1 Featured Post Outside Blog
    Excellent information!  Thank you for putting so much time into this and sharing it with all of us!
    10:18pm • #48
    DEC
    13
    2007

    Thanks for all the wonderful feedback.  Its great to that I could share something useful with everyone.

    In case anyone missed it, the piggybacking thing is no longer accurate.  That did end a couple months ago.  While it was a good thing for some, sure enough some shady individuals who found a way to profit from it ruined it for everyone else.  Maybe I should write a blog about what they were doing and why the bureaus re-vamped the scoring models to exclude authorized users??

    11:55am • #49

    Sandy, I don't know much about new day, I called them and heard their spchiel and it sounds legit.  However I don't know anyone who has used them, so I really can't tell you what to do.

    My advice for all my clients that want a company to do it for them is to use DSI.  I have had clients who used them before with positive results.  They charge a set-up fee of $19, then 3 payments of $79.  That totals $256.  They work on the file for 6 months, which is cool because they are not charging anything for the final 3 months.  That means they have no reason to drag out the "monthly fee" that some places charge and keep you going indefinitely.  They even offer a satisfaction gaurantee where if you're not satisfied with the results, they'll give you all your money back plus $50.  I have had no customers that I referred there ever ask for their money back, so that tells you that they do deliver.  (Or else I wouldn't recommend them!)  Here is a link, check them out!

    dsi Solutions Banner

    Oh yeh, they even have a satisfactory rating with the Better Business Bureau.  Only 3 complaints were ever filed and all were resolved and the clients were happy.  Here is a link to the BBB site.

     

    12:08pm • #50
    JAN
    13
    2008

    Great post! It could have been broken down into 5 or 6 posts, but still great! lol

    If you ever want to be a guest writer for my credit repair site in exchange for a link back to your site, just let me know.

    12:33am • #51
    FEB
    11
    2008

    Hello,

      My name is Lang Smith.  I just wanted to add to Tony's remark about Charge-off's and collections just to help everyone out there understand this exactly.  Unfortunatley, the way your credit is scored in present time is based on the "date of last activity".  Let me give you an example=> Lets say i have a $5,000 charge-off and so do you.  They are both 5 years old which means normally they will fall off after 7 years.  Lets also say that you decide to be the nice guy and wake up one day and decide you are going to pay all that money back to the company. So you go ahead and do that and you are all excited.  Well, I on the other hand am going to say forget it, i'm not paying a dime back.  Well here is what happens.  YOU actually get penalized worse than me and here is why:

     The credit score is calculated by the date of last activity which mean since you decided to pay yours off, sure your balance may say O at this point but now that charge-off is on your credit file for another 7 years on top of the 5 it has already been on there for.  Mine, on the other hand, will still drop off in 2 years, assuming you didn't have that removed before hand.  So you see, by paying off a charge-off will do nothing for your credit score.  The only advantage it gives you is that you won't get sued and just so you know, very rarely does anyone get sued from a charge-off but it does happen. 

    So just remember, if you get a charge-off, your score will be calculated by the "date of last activity" so I would think about that before you start thinking about becoming a guy guy in that matter.   

     Thanks for your time.  Please let me know if I can help further!

    Lang Smith
    8:42pm • #52
    MAY
    16
    2008

    Wow great article. Very informative. Thanks.

    2:06am • #53
    JUL
    08
    2008

    Tony,  great blog.  I just wish that more home owners or purchasers would get educated by reading that material.  I spend many hours teaching my clients the same stuff to help the better understand thier rights as creditors and how to fight the bureaus.  Have you heard of the Section 609  credit disputing process?  I have used it with great results.

                                                                            Tom

    Tom hargreaves
    10:11pm • #54
    JUL
    09
    2008
    220,398 Points

    Thank you so much for taking the time to share with us -- Very good!!!

    6:22am • #55
    4 Featured Posts

    As it happens, I am in the process of cleaning my credit post-divorce.  Thank you for the infomation and I will be putting it to good use!

    11:23pm • #56
    OCT
    16
    2008

    you  can try these services on this site as well there good for  a place to start as getting your credit back together http://sites.google.com/site/debtgoaway/. the guys on this page keeps things on the easy to understand side of credit, and the fdcpa.

    gs 5150
    8:52pm • #57
    MAY
    16
    2009

    Thank you Tony,

    Your posting is very helpful and excellent.  My husband and I are preparing to purchase another hoe this year.  We faced foreclosure in 2006 due to loss of employment and possible divorce.  But, with time, we were able to renew our family and fix the marjority of our credit.  We learned the hard way, we have worked very hard to improve our credit scores.  The only problem we have encountered is:  1.  We have paid collections from 2006 in 2008 after reviewing our credit report, and now they are still reporting EVERY MONTH, some with an active balance.  2.  We used several different credit repair companies with little to NO results, and even received notice from Transunion to send us a notice stating my disputes are FRIVOLOUS.  I asked the representatives why are they disputing tradelines as NOT MINES when I know they are mine.  I just wanted them to correct the misinformation that was reporting.  Example, Premier reporting a balance, then Arrow Financial reporting a balance, well after the the bill has been paid.  Which is a reason why BoA denied use, because it SHOWED recently late or recent COLLECTION. Which is NOT true.  We have not had a late since Jun 2006.  

    Again, we have worked very hard, and we are using our VA to get the home we want.  Unfortunately, we ran into brokers that ARE NOT familiar with the guidelines under VA.  I wish someone will educate the BROKERS AND LENDERS on VA GUIDELINES.  I have read and educated myself alot lately just to be knowledgable of the process.  

    Again, Thank you Tony for the BLOG.

      

    Kim
    7:51am • #58
    JAN
    04
    2010

    Hello Ive got a question about collections...........I was out of the country for 3 years fighting to be able to bring back my new wife as I had to prove we loved each other before she could come to the USA.My son was taking care of paying my bills with my check book and failed to tell me he was missing payments so when I came home I found out I had ID theft of 40.000 dollars and I disputed that and in 30 days got it off,but the rest of my bills where over 3 years in collection now so I went to my Lawyer was told not to file Bankruptcy as my debt was to low 20.000 they told me to wait the 7 years,its been 6 years now in oregons law and I am wondering as to date Ive not been sued or contacted should I wait tell the end of this year as the original dates will be 7 years but not the 4 collections of the same accounts.after 7 years what letter would I write to clear the Collections off my credit report?Iam a disabled Veteran and have been wanting to clear my credit so I can get a VA loan to buy a house.Wayne

    wayne
    1:21am • #59

    Well you would write a letter to the credit bureaus disputing those collections once they are truly over 7 years, and tell them the dates are wrong.  Hopefully they will come off with just that.  If not, you'll need to write to each collection company disputing their inaccurate reporting of information and threaten to sue if they don't remove it like they should.  If they don't remove it then....sue them!  Good luck!

    Tony D. Howell
    3:29pm • #60
    JUN
    17

    Thanks for such a great post Tony.  Great information.  So glad your beverage of choice is lemonade!  LOL.  I will repost this and hopefully my clients will find hope now!

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