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What Would You Pay for a Real Estate Investing System?

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Real Estate Broker/Owner with Home Point Real Estate DRE # 01492725

What Would You Pay for a Real Estate Investing System?

I work with lots of Real Estate Investors and I have helped them all profit in real estate. However, several times a week I will get the call or the e-mail from a new investor. Some of them talk a good game but eventually it dawns on me that I am dealing with another Seminar Investor.

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These people often have purchased expensive Real Estate Investing Schools/Lessons/Programs that they have read about or seen on Television. Now every person claims their program is unique and teaches secrets for the inside crowd.

I am in California and one thing we study in school is the California Gold Rush. What I learned about the California Gold Rush is that the people who got rich were, generally speaking, not the Gold Miners; especially not the loan prospector. The ones that got rich were the ones selling things to the Gold Miners. Every hear or Levi's or Wells Fargo? – These companies were built on the California Gold Rush. Just something to think about when someone tries to sell you a Real Estate Investing School/System/Program.

There are many approaches peddled, some border on unethical and illegal. Here are some common elements most if not all the programs have:

  • They charge you money and if you are foolish enough to buy them they will have some even better stuff to sell you to help you even more. They will always have something to sell you.

  • If per chance you realize the system is not working and want a refund based on the Money Back Guarantee you will be told you did not follow the system so you do not qualify for a refund.

  • There is nothing new in these programs. The concept of how real estate works is often simplified, or important factors are just left out. If someone really had a great system that worked this well the last thing they would do is tell others about it. Once others know about an approach it no longer works as well.

  • No one is making money off these systems, at least not as easily as they make it sound. (Although they sure make money selling the system.) Occasionally people do win the lottery and on occasion someone does make some money on one of these systems – but I would not plan my retirement around it happening. Money that is made is often not made as easily as it could have been without the “system”.

  • They discount the value of using a REALTOR. They often have “Plans” that bypass the use of an agent. They see the REALTOR as an expense that is not needed. Now I have several thoughts this:
    1) If you want to keep scamming people it is important to keep them away from people that will expose you. Good REALTORS and agents can point out problems with the program.
    2) As a REALTOR I do not charge you for my knowledge and experience until you actually purchase a property. In fact, generally as a buyer it does not cost you much, if anything, for my services. I only get paid when you succeed. (No you do not generally save money by cutting the agent out of the deal. Study after study shows this.)
    3) The cost of using an experienced REALTOR/Agent is a lot less than buying the System/Program/School or what ever they are selling.
    4) A REALTOR/Agent is licensed and a big part of the job is keeping buyers/sellers out of trouble with regulators and legal issues. Forms and disclosures are different for every state and even localities. Would you do your own Brain Surgery? Represent your self in court? So why not use an expert that really knows what they are doing for one of the biggest financial investments you will make.

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Now one last thing. If you have bought into one of these investing systems or use one I would like to hear from you privately. I want to know about the system and your experience with it. If you think I am full of it and your system is great I want to know that too. E-mail me or give me a call at 925-260-4321.

 

And I am always available to work with new Investors or Home Buyers and Sellers.

Originally Published at HomePointBrentwood.com

Charles Stallions Property Manager
Charles Stallions Real Estate Services - Pace, FL
Pensacola, Pace & Gulf Breeze Property Management

Hell Realtor's fall for the biggest scams of all, if a coach can make you rich wouldn't it make sense he would be rich in the business. I always say... if you want to get rich create some initials or crap and sell it Realtor's under the guise that other agents are buying it.

Aug 06, 2013 11:39 AM
Joan Cox
House to Home, Inc. - Denver Real Estate - 720-231-6373 - Denver, CO
Denver Real Estate - Selling One Home at a Time

When investors find a Realtor in the area of the their interest that is good at spotting the home that will make them some money, they will stick with the same Realtor on further purchases.

Aug 07, 2013 12:44 AM
Bryan Robertson
Los Altos, CA

I've seen a lot of these "systems" come and go.  You're absolutely right, if the system works nobody will share the secret.  Nearly all of them are worthless.  The way to make money in real estate is know how to identify a good opportunity and put the pieces together to make it work.  Having a good agent will make that first step heppen.

Aug 07, 2013 04:10 AM
Gene Riemenschneider
Home Point Real Estate - Brentwood, CA
Turning Houses into Homes

Michelle - I have fallen for them too.  One of my first Blog Post was how to make a fortune in real estate and it was a spoof on coaching.

Joan - How right you are.

Bryan - Exactly.  I cannot beleive what scams they are.  I guess I am to honest and could never sell that stuff with a straight face.

Aug 08, 2013 02:03 AM
Patricia Feager, MBA, CRS, GRI,MRP
DFW FINE PROPERTIES - Flower Mound, TX
Selling Homes Changing Lives

Thanks Gene!

Aug 08, 2013 11:01 AM
Gene Riemenschneider
Home Point Real Estate - Brentwood, CA
Turning Houses into Homes

Patricia - Thank you for coming by.

Aug 09, 2013 02:42 AM
Rebecca Gaujot, Realtor®
Lewisburg, WV
Lewisburg WV, the go to agent for all real estate
Hi Gene, I haven't used a Real Estate Investing System, and never will! I enjoyed reading this post and like the paragraph ..."They discount the value of using a REALTOR."
Aug 13, 2013 06:09 AM
Larry Johnston
Broker, Friends & Neighbors Real Estate and Elkhart County Subdivisions, LLC - Elkhart, IN
Broker,Friends & Neighbors Real Estate, Elkhart,IN

Gene, That's quite a post. I don't think I could fo that.  Good luck,

Aug 24, 2013 07:53 AM