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My son almost fired me...

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Real Estate Broker/Owner with RE/MAX Legacy

Last week my son closed on his first home!!!   However, it took his Realtor (i.e. me) almost a year a half to find the right place.    I heard from him several times that I expect more from you and if you can't make it happen - I am sure someone else can ---  admittedly he was just joking.

However, in order to get a good deal on a foreclosure or short sale - it requires a lot of patience.   So just for fun I will walk through the failures and why he almost fired me.

#1  The short sale.    His first offer was on a short sale - very nice home 2600 sq ft.    Purchaser agreed - it took the bank almost three months to finally say no - bottom line purchaser and rented it for some point in time and therefore did not qualify for the short sale.

#2  The almost new foreclosure - This was a smaller home in great neighborhood - we made an offer about 10K below ask.  They countered back at asking price - we found out by searching tax records that the foreclosure price was about at what we had offered and that we could not get title insurance without paying a 1%  redemption bond fee since our offer would be over foreclosure price.    We waited hoping the price would come down - someone else paid full price - it was a great deal.    He almost fired me....

#3   The great deal on a foreclosure.    This was a Bank of America foreclosure about 15 years old - in excellent shape.   The property had not moved and the bank dropped the bottom out of it from 165,000 to 135,000.      Since we had looked at the property before at the higher price we knew it was a great deal and immediately wrote the offer.    We heard back from the real estate firm that the offer was accepted.   Yea!!!   Then the next day we get the call - that because another offer had came in the bank was not accepting the offer but going to do highest and best - yes you read correctly - in the small print the offer is not final until after review.    Bottom line 15 offers came in and it sold for 150K cash. 

By this point my son was no longer getting excited when we made an offer or looked at a house....

#4   We made an offer on a nice home with 2 car attached and 2 car detached.    We had been watching the home as a short sell and we know the neighborhood.    They countered back a few thousand less than asking we withdrew our offer and waited.....

#5  Made an offer on another relocation house - no deal....

#6  The wait from #4 paid off they dropped the price 10K so we are closer.   We made a lower offer - they countered - we countered back to the price we were at before - they accepted - we closed - I DID NOT GET FIRED AFTER ALL!!!!

We learned a lot of lessons in this process that I have been able to apply much more successfully for other clients - i.e. I sold multiple foreclosures to others during that time.  

Ralph Gorgoglione
Metro Life Homes - Palm Springs, CA
California and Hawaii Real Estate (310) 497-9407
Buying real estate is in itself a lengthy process, but when working with short sales and foreclosures the waiting game can seem never-ending. I'm glad that you and your son were able to laugh through it all.
Aug 17, 2013 01:29 PM
Elise Harron
Dirt Road Real Estate - Kingman, AZ
Rural Vacant Land and Development Specialist

Gray,

Such a positive learning experience for him.  I read all thru the Blog expecting there to be some BIG hurdles, but everything was just standard STUFF he will have a GREAT handle on the business with just this one experience!  Are you happy he's following you?  Always curious to see what parents think when their children follow their footprints!

Cheers,

Aug 17, 2013 01:49 PM
Jan Green - Scottsdale, AZ
Value Added Service, 602-620-2699 - Scottsdale, AZ
HomeSmart Elite Group, REALTOR®, EcoBroker, GREEN

Gray - Congrats on the purchase your son made after all the other offers.  Real estate can be so crazy at times that patience is sometimes hard to find.  Good for your son for hanging in there!

BTW, I lived in Huntsville from 91-97, so understand your area very well! I still visit annually as my daughter and her family still live in Meridianville!

Aug 17, 2013 04:02 PM
Christine Donovan
Donovan Blatt Realty - Costa Mesa, CA
Broker/Attorney 714-319-9751 DRE01267479 - Costa M
Gray - These type of results can be so frustrating to everybody involved.
Aug 17, 2013 04:52 PM
Anne M. Costello
Weidel Realtors - Yardley, PA

Congratulations to you and your son! Patience and persistence paid off!

Aug 17, 2013 08:42 PM
Marco Giancola
Beachfront Realty - Miami Beach, FL
Realtor (305)608-1922, Miami Beach Florida

Not easy dealing with family or friends. Glad you ended up with a happy customer!

Aug 17, 2013 09:07 PM
Gita Bantwal
RE/MAX Centre Realtors - Warwick, PA
REALTOR,ABR,CRS,SRES,GRI - Bucks County & Philadel

Congratulations to you and your son. It is not easy working with foreclosures and short sales.

Aug 17, 2013 09:25 PM
Tracy Oliva
West USA Realty - Arizona - Fountain Hills, AZ
The Oliva Team Arizona Agents

Finally:   Sometimes its a lot harder to work with family!! keep up the good work and good luck with your sales,  E

Aug 17, 2013 09:35 PM
Nina Hollander, Broker
Coldwell Banker Realty - Charlotte, NC
Your Greater Charlotte Realtor

It's very hard working with relatives and close friends. You really need to tread carefully and then there's always the pressure in the back of your mind whether you've done enough for someone you really care about.

Aug 17, 2013 09:50 PM
Fernando Herboso - Associate Broker MD, & VA
Maxus Realty Group of Samson Properties - Clarksburg, MD
301-246-0001 Serving Maryland, DC and Northern VA

I'm hoping that his loan was locked. . .because in 1 1/2 years, property values went up in most places in the USA . .so did the rates. .

Aug 17, 2013 10:58 PM
Gray Winn
RE/MAX Legacy - Madison, AL
New Home Specialist in Madison AL and Athens AL

All,

I will pass on the congradulations to my son.   

Jan,

Nice to hear from someone who use to live in the Huntsville area.

Elise,

I really want my son to get his license and do real estate at least part time.   Currently he has a full time job in flooring sales (tile showers, tile back splashes, hardwood, granite counter tops) so he is learning how to deal with the public and how to handle tough situations.   He is also going to college full time - business degree - so his biggest hurdle is finding time to take the real estate classes.    

Aug 17, 2013 11:00 PM
Wayne Zuhl
Remax First Realty II - Cranford, NJ
The Last Name You'll Ever Need in Real Estate

Congratulations to your son - it sounds like he had an uphill battle the whole way.

Aug 17, 2013 11:45 PM
Jeff Stevens
Berkshire Hathaway HomeServices New Mexico Properties - Las Cruces, NM
Jeff Stevens, Associate Broker/REALTOR

Gary, working with family is never a good idea. Okay, it's generally not a good idea. That said, glad yours has a happy ending! 

Aug 18, 2013 12:21 AM
Ed Silva, 203-206-0754
Mapleridge Realty, CT 203-206-0754 - Waterbury, CT
Central CT Real Estate Broker Serving all equally

Presuming your son was living under your roof while this was going on probably gave you an edge on not getting fired. Short sales can really test the patience

Aug 18, 2013 03:02 AM
Brian Sharkey
SharkeyRE LLC - Singer Island, FL
SharkeyRE

Gary, Working with family is always a bit of a headache because they expect a lot more from you.  It reminds me of the post

How to Safely Buy From Family 

Aug 18, 2013 04:05 AM
Chris and Dick Dovorany
Homes for Sale in Naples, Bonita Springs and Estero, Florida - Naples, FL
Broker/Associate at Premiere Plus Realty

Since I have in the past given my kids my comissions on the homes they purchase they better not fire me or I'll fire them first.

Aug 18, 2013 04:32 AM
Team Honeycutt
Allen Tate - Concord, NC

Family and close friends are the hardest people in the world to work with. After reading all of your experiences, I am surprised you didn't fire him. Your level of patience is to be admired.

Betty

Aug 18, 2013 04:43 AM
Gary Frimann, CRS, GRI, SRES
Eagle Ridge Realty / Signature Homes & Estates - Gilroy, CA
REALTOR and Broker

Gray, that wou've hurt being fired by a familty member!  Congrats on finding him the perfect house though.  I hope his threat was just him kidding...  

Aug 18, 2013 06:28 AM
Jeanne Dufort
Coldwell Banker Lake Country - Madison, GA
Madison and Lake Oconee GA

Congratulations on getting to the closing table with a great deal for your son.  You've helped him learn a great lesson - this business takes the right mix of patience and decisiveness.

Aug 18, 2013 07:44 AM
Gray Winn
RE/MAX Legacy - Madison, AL
New Home Specialist in Madison AL and Athens AL

All,

Thanks for the comments and congratulations.    My son really was a great client and he was just joking with the comments.     He knew the whole idea was to try to get a great deal and living at home was not that bad.   Of course I will save more than commission not feeding him......

Aug 18, 2013 01:14 PM