Bar talk.  Are you familiar with the term?  It's when you're sitting at a bar and there is some guy sitting there whodrunk at a bar is obviously the world's smartest man!  No matter what you're talking about, he's the expert!

I've always felt the there was something about real estate that brought this out in people, even when they weren't sitting at a bar with a few drinks in them.  In the past, I've teased that ALL men have a gene in their DNA that makes them an expert when it comes to real estate.  I've been involved in real estate since 1984 and I'm the one guy who apparently doesn't prosess this gene!

Well, Blogging is another one of these instances where people get to spout off their opinions and claim to be an expert in one subject or the other.  The particularly bad thing about blogging is that if you call yourself an expert long enough and you gain a certain amount of notoriety in a community, others will start to view you as an expert.

I just noticed this today while reading a blog about a lady who had her content swiped by another blogger.  In this post she referenced a post by another AR member on copyright.  She referred to her as AR's "Queen" on the topic.

Well, first of all, I'm not using particular names because I don't want to stir up another battle royal as I did the last time I wrote on copyright.  If you can read between the lines and guess who I'm talking about, then that's cool.  I'm not attempting to slam anybody here, I just want to make a point.

That is, that just because somebody writes with a tone of authority, doesn't make that person a true expert!  Especially in a topic as open to interpretation as copyright law!

If you read the comments on my post about the "Fair Use Doctrine" and "Fair Use Doctrine II", you will see that quite a few people disagreed with me.  In particular AR's resident "Queen" on the subject thought I was full of crap!  From some of the other comments you will see that, at least her on AR, that people place a far greater amount of faith in her opinions when it comes to copyright than they did on mine.  This is cool, I'm a big boy and can take it.

The problem with this is that she was wrong!  At least according to a world renown authority on the topic.  Actually, he didn't come right out and say that she was wrong, instead in an email to me, he linked to an example where he personally did the exact same thing that I had done.  

He also pointed out that even though he has an extensive amount of experience in the field, including having worked for the US Government as copyright counsel to the US House of Representatives and as the policy planning adviser to the register of copyrights that various courts throughout the world didn't always agree with him.

Anyway, again, my point here isn't to slam anyone.  It's to make sure that you take what you read here with a grain of salt.  While you can indeed learn a great deal from reading the various posts, use it as a jumping off point.  Do your own homework.  In this particular case, I read the actual statutes and when I wanted affirmation that my interpretation was correct, I emailed this guy.  It's amazing that all I had to do was ask and he was kind enough to have exchanged several emails on the topic.  I am now comfortable that I was indeed correct in my interpretation of the law.  If some of the folks here on AR don't agree with me, at least " Let me buy you a drink!"

 

R.B. "Bob" Mitchell

ValueList Real Estate Services, Inc. 

 

Bob Mitchell is the president of ValueList Real Estate Services, Inc., St. Louis' largest discount/full-service real estate and mortgage company.  To find out more about Bob, ValueList or our flat-fee listing program please feel free to visit our web page, valuelistre.com  

 
 

8 Comments on Take It With A Grain Of Salt - Don't Believe Everything That You Read Here On AR

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Yes, there is always the person who knows EVERYTHING :)  Funny 
12:53pm • #1
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Well that is the issue with law...semantics.  It's all about defining those fine lines. Some lines are clear and boundaries are crossed, and then there are those fine lines.  Semantics is what makes the world go around for attorneys.  You might be on one side of the line, and someone else on the other. The courts stand on the line and then decide which side is right.

If it was all black and white, the supreme court wouldn't have dissenting opinions....

 

1:05pm • #2
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Yikes!  Blogging Bertha returns!

Whether or not Lenn's posts are totally one hundred percent accurate on copyright stuff, I think she's kept a lot of us out of trouble.  I've read her posts and yours, and I think if I were going to err, I'd rather have it be on the side of not publishing something as totally amazing as Big Bertha without at least an email from TLW saying I have her permission.  There are lawyers who would argue that we could use it anyway, but I'd rather not have to hire one to make my case in court.  

 

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Jonelle:  I'm glad that you enjoyed the joke.

Melina:  You're right...and copyright law is one of those things that even the experts and the courts don't agree on a lot of the time.  Thanks for the comment.

Patricia:  You're right, if you're going to err, it's probably better to err to the conservative.  I've read and learned quite a bit from Lenn's blog and again, I am not meaning to slam her or anybody else with this post...I'm not even going to confirm that it was Lenn that I was referring to! ;-)  

My point isn't really even about copyright law...it's about not "assuming" that just because somebody is viewed as an expert on something (here on AR or anywhere for that matter) that they are right.  As I said, "use it as a jumping off point", but do your own homework.  I hope that everyone can appreciate that this is the point of this post.  Thanks for your comment

 

Bob Mitchell

ValueList Real Estate Services,Inc. 

1:31pm • #4
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Bob - Your point is well taken. I do more reading on AR than I do posting. I often worry people will put too much stock in a post without thinking the topic through on their own and as you say "doing their homework." Sometimes I just have to shake my head and move on to the next post.

10:29pm • #5
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2008
Great Post....I'll keep that in mind while I'm giving out underwriting advice (it's always good to stay humble!)  By the way....I enjoy your blogs!
6:35am • #6
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Debbie....I'm glad that you understand what I was trying to say.  I too shake my head from time to time! 

D:  Underwriting advise is exempt from the bar talk regulation......and thank you for the compliment.

Jim:  ;-)  I thought that it was.....not that I've ever experienced bar talking myself...you know? ;-)

 

Bob Mitchell

ValueList Real Estate Services,Inc.

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