I receive a lot of requests from first time buyers looking for an inexpensive way into the housing market and hoping to pick up a home in the Conejo Valley for dirt cheap, hoping for a foreclosure - one they can actually live in, too! I take these requests seriously and try to educate them about how it works, to the best of my knowledge of course.

First, there are way too many bogus websites out there telling people that you can pick up a foreclosure for $60,000 - for a 4 bedroom home in Thousand Oaks! I hate this and it makes me mad that these scam sites lure people in, get them to pay thinking they are going to get the deal of the century. Well, it doesn't work that way. Typically that $60,000 is what they are behind in payments. I put it to them like this:

Banks are in the business to make money; why would they give something away? Secondly, if their home were worth $600,000 - would they sell it for $60,000? HECK NO!! So, why would you think a bank would do this? Well, they won't, ever.

If you want to buy a foreclosed home, be prepared to pay full market value - and for cash, too. Now, the best way to get a good deal on a home is to look for a "PRE-FORECLOSURE" or SHORT SALE. Again, no guarantees that this will work the same way for everyone, but in the last few transactions I have had with short sales, the banks were willing to take 80% to 90% of the appraised value for the home. HOWEVER, this is not necessarily true for every short pay out there and I don't want a bunch of angry posts on here because it didn't work for them.

It is also a VERY LONG PROCESS with no guarantees at the end; you could wait 3 or 4 months for a response - and have it be no. Typically, the listing agent works with the seller and the bank and lists the home for just under appraised value hoping to sell it for as much money as possible - which makes sense of course. In the event it doesn't sell and is sitting and sitting and the foreclosure date is looming overhead (which the banks absolutely do not want) you have a small window of opportunity to get in there and make an offer to the bank for 80/90% of the appraised value. So, if the home appraised for 1,000,000 - you could POSSIBLY walk away with only spending $800,000 on the home. Again, though, it is a long, slow process with no guarantees - sometimes you have 2 different banks to work with - a first loan and a second loan - and if the second bank does not want to negotiate, or the first bank will not give them anything, they say no and it is all over. Another issue I encounter (well, only with one bank which will remain nameless FOR NOW) is that I cannot reach anyone in the Loss Mitigation Department of the bank and it is just over for the seller and the buyer has waited months for nothing. There are also Short Sale assistance companies out there who can sometimes help - for a price - but it can be worth it to the seller if they want to preserve some of their credit as well as to the buyer who still gets the home at a great price. Again, I am disclosing here that what I am writing is based on my personal experiences - if you want, I can help you buy a great home using my formula but I cannot guarantee it will work. If the bank has had offers higher than the 80 or 90%, it will not work. Just do me a favor and stay off those junk sites, unless you plan to go to the courthouse on sale day and pay with a cashier's check.

 

9 Comments on Short Sales & Foreclosures - the difference and best buy!

JAN
29
2007
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Thanks for your post.  I'm a Realtor in Orange County California.  I conduct classes for first time home buyers.  One of the most frequent questions we get is on buying foreclosures.  I make it a practice to attend numerous classes every year that offer to teach people how to buy homes for no money down, with no credit and to buy foreclosures.  It's always interesting that the "real life" examples they use are somewhere in the midwest and from 10 or more years ago!  Thanks again for your post.
2:10am • #1
It's just sad for those who get their hopes up and we have to bring them back to reality.
2:14am • #2

Very true. Again, though education is the key! Attending the classes is a great idea, too, but as Marlene states, it can also be mis-leading. We just have to work that much harded for the reality check and people appreciate it more in the long run. Thanks for reading!

2:23am • #3
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Suzanne:  Great Post!  I have the same thing going on with first time buyers approaching me in regards to foreclosures.  I give them similar advice and then I tell them about short sales and pre-foreclosures.  I send them a series of three emails from the MLS:  One short sales, Two pre-foreclosures & REO, Three normal listings.  This is so they can dissect and come to their own conclusion that a short sale or preforeclosure/REO isn't necessarily all that great of a deal.  Especially when they have to deal with liens and deferred maintenance!
7:45am • #4

Depending on what type of work they are into... some people can purchase a HUD home for 50% of the listing price. Check out my blog "Buying a home for 50% of the list price". It can give you some options for your clients.

11:26am • #5
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10
2007
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In my capacity working for a non profit housing counseling organization, I speak ocassionally at first time homebuyers certification seminars.  My segment offers a glimpse into the dark side... I begin by saying, "They'll teach you need to know about how to buy a new home, "JUST SIGN HERE!"  but don't offer much in the way of teaching how to keep your new home when life throws you a curve..." 

preforeclosure counseling

8:35am • #6
FEB
11
2007
Thanks David; what a great organization you have! Can you assist homeowners in CA? Do you have some documentation you can email me that I can pass along to another agent I am currently working with that shows the short sale process? My clients have submitted an offer on his listing and while he asked me for advice in the beginning he now is telling me "stop telling me how to do my job" but the scary guy has no idea what he is doing! He ie jeopardizing our transaction! I tried to click on one of your links and it was saying no longer available; anything you can provide for me to pass along would be great! My email is csgrace@verizon.net.
1:12am • #7
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2007
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SPOCH works with all parties to the foreclosure process across the USA,   We try to help real estate professionals by providing transaction support... which allows the real estate broker or broker's agent to concentrate on selling the home... instead of a trial by education learning the nuances of preforeclosure short sale construct at the expense and detriment to the Client.

you can contract me via email:  info@spoch.org

short sale transaction support

10:21am • #8
JUN
17
2007
One thing I tend to get a ton of calls on are homes listed on foreclosure sites for $50k! Well, you can't even get a mobile home for that here in Thousand Oaks! My guess is this is the delinquent amount but do any of you know truly where this information is coming from? Who can we refer these bogus sites to? Is someone policing them (i.e, the DRE for example)? It is so frustrating for me and my potential buyers to explain to them that this is false information - or at the very least, plain old misleading; my typical question I ask of the buyer is why would a bank give away a home when they can sell it for full market value? Is this number maybe the minimum bid required by the Foreclosure court? Any insight anyone adds is greatly appreciated! Thanks!
3:25am • #9

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