Hi D. Bass,

I have read quite a few of your blogs and I like the way you educate all of us on UW questions. I have a question that I would like to ask you:

If DU findings come back as Refer/Eligible: Refer due to DTI at 67% but borrower has compensating factors (700+ score, 3 months reserves, 10% down payment etc). Have you seen UW's make an exception for such a borrower? Or they are just going to deny it?

Thanks

Answer from Ask the Underwriter:

 

First let me say: THANK YOU!! I'm glad you find my blogs helpful!

When running Desktop Underwriter Findings we have found that if you keep the DTI at 65% and under you may get an Approve/Eligible.  We have never seen Desktop Underwriter approve a DTI over 65%.  I suggest you review your loan to see how you can get your findings 65% or under. 

I hope this helps

                                 

 

 

 

 

 

 
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13 Comments on Ask The Underwriter: Desktop Underwriter Question

Great post, informative.  I'll keep reading, I didn't even know a borrower could qualify at 65% DTI!!  I was under the impression always that it was around 42% max, and some alt programs up to 50%@!

02/25/2008 11:00 AM by Jonelle Simons (Windermere Real Estate)


Jonelle, 

DU is a funny character.   It loves assets & likes equity.

Keep coming around! 

 

02/25/2008 11:27 AM by D. Bass ~ Blog: Ask The Underwriter (Alpha Mortgage Training)


D. Bass - Again, an extremely informative post.  I am passing along all of your blogs to the rest of my office.  We were a predominantly Sub-Prime shop (I wonder why we are not anymore?) and not nearly as well versed in DU as we should be.  We are getting there, though.  Thanks.

02/25/2008 11:37 AM by PTBAC


Steven,

Thank you very much! Keep coming around...

02/25/2008 12:31 PM by D. Bass ~ Blog: Ask The Underwriter (Alpha Mortgage Training)


D. Bass good answer.  It is much easier to get the DTI down 2% then to try to qualify under manual underwriting guide lines, which further reduce the DTI any way.

I would recommend that whoever asked the question look at the credit report and see if there is any debt that has a high monthly payment but a low balance.  By paying off this balance they could possibly reduce the DTI by that 2%.

02/25/2008 07:44 PM by George Souto (McCue Mortgage Co.)


D.B. I learn a bunch from the stuff you post. Let me ask part two to this question. When you get the A/E at 65% what is some of the big things?

Credit Score
Assets
Job Time
Number of trade lines
Types of prior credit
Purchase or Refi

Thanks again

Tony 

02/25/2008 08:30 PM by Tony Grego with AmeriSave


D

You are so right... I cam e from the subprime world and still find it hard to believe we can get 65 DTI to fly

02/25/2008 09:50 PM by Rick Kellow


D- Great to see "one of you" on here!  I had one that went throught at 67% on a LEVEL 3, with a significant benefit to borrower (reducing mortgage payments by $1200 per month)... make sense right??

02/26/2008 12:18 AM by Tampa Real Estate | Florida Relocation | Land | LakeFront Home | Katrina Madewell (Charles Rutenberg Rlty- More than 3,500 agents(813) 235-9889)


D. Bass,  Great advice. 67% wow.  I know DU is pretty wild stuff. I tell my clients it works on compensating factors. You have a high DTI but you have a ton of assets that can work.. Little assets and a high DTI.. most likely not.

02/26/2008 06:59 AM by My Favorite Mortgage.net - Matthew J Blum


Hey Tony!

If you get the DTI at 65% (i'm thinking you meant DTI when you wrote A/E...let me know if I read it wrong) credit and job time are going to be major factors (this is just my opinion and experience).  Assets are sometimes easy, if you have a borrower with pretty good credit because you can usually get away with 2 months reserves.  Also...when I say job time I mean: no gaps, at least a 2 year history working.  Job changes show an increase or the same salary. 

I haven't met the genius yet to figure out the calculation Desktop Underwriter uses...but when I do I'm locking him/her in a room writing down everything they say before I let him go!!!!!!

I hope this was helpful Tony....and like I said: If you need me to look at anything just email me (its the least I can do for my first subscribers).

02/26/2008 07:01 AM by D. Bass ~ Blog: Ask The Underwriter (Alpha Mortgage Training)


Rick- You'd be surprised at what you can make fly if you package it right.

Katrina- Your absolutely right, reducing current monthly payments is another way to get an accept.  Thanks Katrina, I hope you keep coming around.  Any questions email me.

Matthew- It's one of the Matthews!  Thanks for commenting.  Keep coming around.

02/26/2008 07:06 AM by D. Bass ~ Blog: Ask The Underwriter (Alpha Mortgage Training)


Hey DB!

Sorry for the typo and thanks for the great answer

Tony 

02/26/2008 05:36 PM by Tony Grego with AmeriSave


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