By Dustin R Burke, Adonai Financial

 

 

I recently read a post by Christopher Hill titled Do I pay a point or not?  I work with clients from all over the world and the American’s have been taught NOT to pay points, while the remainder of the clients I work with WANT to pay points.  I posted a blog on ARM or not to ARM? where I also stated that Americans wanted a 30 year fixed and not an ARM while clients from abroad wanted the opposite.interest rate

 

 

Points, just like ARM loans, must be used correctly.  Here are SIX real life examples - three on fixed rate mortgages / three on ARM mortgages. 

 

 

***When a borrower chooses NOT to pay points then we will apply what he/she would have paid for the point(s) and place it toward the loan amount.

 

Fixed Rate Mortgage Examples:  this real life example is based on a 30 year fixed.

 

Option 1 – In this option the borrower is paying 2 pts and getting the lowest rate.

 

 

 

Interest paid after:

Total Cost w/ points

Costs vs. Option 2

Costs vs. Option 3

Loan Amount:

$300,000

12 mo: $17,899

$23,899

+2094

+4150

Rate:

6%

24 mo: $35,572

$41,572

+1154

+2292

Points:

2 ($6000)

36 mo: $53,003

$59,003

+211

+425

Payment

$1,798

48 mo: $70,178

$76,178

-735

-1448

 

 

60 mo: $87,082

$93,082

-1683

-3325

 

Option 2 – In this option the borrower is paying 1 pt and taking a slightly higher rate.

 

 

 

Interest paid after:

Total Cost w/ points

Costs vs. Option 1

Costs vs. Option 3

Loan Amount:

$297,000

12 mo: $18,835

$21,805

-2094

+2056

Rate:

6.375%

24 mo: $37,448

$40,418

-1154

+1138

Points:

1 ($2970)

36 mo: $55,822

$58,792

-211

+214

Payment

$1,852

48 mo: $73,943

$76,913

+735

-713

 

 

60 mo: $91,795

$94,765

+1683

-1614

 

Option 3 – In this option the borrower is not paying points and will take the highest rate of the three Fixed Rate options.

 

 

 

Interest paid after:

Total Cost w/ points

Costs vs. Option 1

Costs vs. Option 2

Loan Amount:

$294,000

12 mo: $19,749

$19,749

-4150

-2056

Rate:

6.750%

24 mo: $39,280

$39,280

-1138

-1138

Points:

0

36 mo: $58,578

$58,578

-425

-214

Payment

$1,906

48 mo: $77,626

$77,626

+1448

+713

 

 

60 mo: $96,407

$96,407

+3325

+1614

 

money

Fixed Rate Assessment:  It appears that Option 1 is best if the borrower is going to keeping the loan for 3+ years.  Option 3 appears best if the borrower is going to keep the loan for less than 3 years.  And Option 2 will save the borrower on upfront expenses vs. Option 1 and give the borrower a lower monthly payment than Option 3.

 

From my vantage point, for an investment longer than 3 years Option 1 appears to be the best of the Fixed Rate Mortgage Options.  For a short term investment Options 3 appears to be the best choice.

 

 

 

Adjustable Rate Mortgage Examples: this real life example is based on a 5/1 ARM.

 

Option 4 – In this option the borrower is paying 2 pts and getting the lowest rate.

 

 

 

Interest paid after:

Total Cost w/ points

Costs vs. Option 5

Costs vs. Option 6

Loan Amount:

$300,000

12 mo: $13,775

$18,775

+313

-1601

Rate:

4.625%

24 mo: $27,327

$32,327

+1403

+1798

Points:

2 ($6000)

36 mo: $40,654

$46,654

+2106

+4185

Payment

$1,542

48 mo: $53,727

$59,727

+3813

+7576

 

 

60 mo: $66,533

$72,533

+5523

+10968

 

Option 5 – In this option the borrower is paying 1 pt and taking a slightly higher rate.

 

 

 

Interest paid after:

Total Cost w/ points

Costs vs. Option 4

Costs vs. Option 6

Loan Amount:

$297,000

12 mo: $15,492

$18,462

-313

-1288

Rate:

5.25%

24 mo: $30,760

$33,730

-1403

+395

Points:

1 ($2970)

36 mo: $45,790

$48,760

-2106

+2079

Payment

$1,640

48 mo: $60,570

$63,540

-3813

+3763

 

 

60 mo: $75,086

$78,056

-5523

+5445

 

Option 6 – In this option the borrower is not paying points and will take the highest rate of the three ARM options.

 

 

 

Interest paid after:

Total Cost w/ points

Costs vs. Option 4

Costs vs. Option 5

Loan Amount:

$294,000

12 mo: $17,174

$17,174

+1601

+1288

Rate:

5.875

24 mo: $34,125

$34,125

-1798

-395

Points:

0

36 mo: $50,839

$50,839

-4185

-2079

Payment

$1,739

48 mo: $67,303

$67,303

-7576

-3763

 

 

60 mo: $83,501

$83,501

-10968

-5445

 

ARM Assessment:  It appears that Option 4 is best if the borrower is going to keeping the loan for 1+ year(s).  Option 6 appears best if you are going to keep the loan for less than 1 year.  And Option 4 has not real substantive advantage over Option 4 or 6.

 

From my vantage point Option 4 appears to be the best of the ARM Options.  For a very short term investment Options 6 appears to be the best choice.

 

Best overall:  Given that most mortgage loans are paid off every 3 – 5 years either by refinances or the sale of the property Option 1 and Option 4 seems to be the best.  Both options also pay the most points.

 

And, after further evaluation Option 4 offers savings over Option 1 of $12,349 after 36 months, $16,451 after 48 months, and $20,549 after 60 months.  So, if a borrower can risk the rate adjustment I would typically recommend Option 6 – an ARM with points.

 

What are you thoughts on points?  Do you agree or disagree?  Let me know by sending me an email to dustin.burke@adonaifinancial.com.

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5 Comments on Florida Mortgages | When Paying Points Makes Sense

MAR
05
2008
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Great post with some very useful information. Thanks again and have a great day!!!
7:10am • #1
 Nice Explanation on points and how they work.
7:57am • #2

Great info.  I will bookmark it and show it to a few of my clients.

Palm Springs Mortgage Guy, Charles Dismuke

1:21pm • #3
Brad, Steven, & Charles -- I am glad the information was helpful to you.  Dustin
1:55pm • #4
MAR
10
2008
Dustin, this is very good information.  I will use this.
10:38am • #5

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