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Well, it's finally here. The new FHA loan limits are officially out, that they have been changed. This will definitely open up the doors to new purchase deals, because the credit guidelines are more relaxed than conventional mortgages. Especially with Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac coming out with new appraisal guidelines in regards to ordering appraisals. Also, on a conventional mortgage, if you have less than a 680 credit score, you are penalized.

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Overall, I could be describing more than 8 reasons why FHA mortgages are that much better, no matter how you look at things. Unless you are putting 20% to 30% down and/or you have a credit score above 680, the pricing on a FHA mortgage will be that much better.


For more reasons why FHA mortgages are easier to obtain and less expensive, please read this : Top 10 reasons FHA is a great way to finance your home....


For a very good reason why FHA mortgages are better than conventional mortgages with 10% down or less, please read :



Many of us are waiting for the HUD Mortgagee Letter that tells us that the changes have been made. Also, if there is any risk base pricing that might be applied to these new loan amounts. Many investors are not allowing the lenders to go over a loan amount of $417,000, no matter how high the loan limit in your area. But as it stands, the new FHA loan limits are official and can be found by going to this site. And keep in mind, these new loan limits, as it stands for now, are only good until December 31, 2008.

https://entp.hud.gov/idapp/html/hicostlook.cfm



Here is a preview of the high cost loan limits and it's areas.


High cost area limits are subject to a ceiling based on a percent of the Freddie Mac Loan limits
The ceilings are currently:
One-family Two-family Three-family Four-family
FHA Forward $729,750.00 $934,200.00 $1,129,250.00 $1,403,400.00
HECM $362,790.00
Fannie/Freddie $729,750.00 $934,200.00 $1,129,250.00 $1,403,400.00


Section 214 of the National Housing Act provides that mortgage limits for Alaska, Guam, Hawaii, and the Virgin Islands may be adjusted up to 150 percent of the new ceilings. This results in new ceilings for these areas of:
One-family Two-family Three-family Four-family
FHA Forward $1,094,625.00 $1,401,300.00 $1,693,875.00 $2,105,100.00
HECM $544,185.00
Fannie/Freddie $1,094,625.00 $1,401,300.00 $1,693,875.00 $2,105,100.00


The current basic standard mortgage limits for FHA insured loans are:
One-family Two-family Three-family Four-family
FHA Forward $271,050.00 $347,000.00 $419,400.00 $521,250.00



**** Word to the wise -- Just because the loan limits are set with maximums, doesn't mean that the lenders or investors will honor these new limits without some sort of penalty. For example : In Burlington County, New Jersey - the new loan limit is $420,000. But we just got a memo from one of our investors that at this moment, they will go up to $417,000 without any penalties or changes to the down payment.

What I am trying to say is....Typically with FHA, you can put the least amount down which is 2.25% as your down payment. Some of these lenders might want you to have the difference down up to a certain loan amount. A lot of this will be cleared up in the next several days as the lenders sort through the pricing criteria.

My advice, pick your loan officer and lender wisely. I had a client that spoke to a lender 3 weeks ago that told her that the new limits were out. That was FALSE, as you can see, because they just came out now. You just can't go off the new changes mentioned in the link that I supplied. We have to wait basically until the dust settles and that we get the particulars from those investors on Wall Street. ****



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26 Comments on FHA loan limits -- The New Increases -- It's official !!!!!!

MAR
06
2008
Thanks for posting.  do you know if there is a way to tell what the old limits were.  It would be a nice comparison.  I have clients in other states...just curious.
11:32am • #1
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Jeff - I just got word on this as well, should prove beneficial for some who now fall out of Fannie & Freddie's new guidelines.
11:32am • #2
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Rock on Jeff.  In the midst of the MBS's getting hammered the last few days, this is great news! 
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SHERRY.....  no, I don't know of a way, unless someone had saved them previously. But just curious, why compare them? Those that deal with a specific area should still remember exactly what they were before anyhow.

JASON.....   prove beneficial for some that fall out of Fannie and Freddie?  The way things are happening with conventional loans in the last 2 to 3 weeks, I would bet that a lot more either don't qualify or would have a much higher rate than FHA. I still get some loan officers that tell me that conventional mortgages are still a good option. And from what I seem, in regards to the average credit scores and those that have less than 10% down, I truly disagree. And this is not based on my opinion, but on numbers that can prove this.

RICH.....  hammered?  that might be an understatement. Just today, we lost about a point on rates. I think even before this happened today, that FHA was and still is a great solution. And with the higher loan amounts, a 1/2 percent in interest rate would make a huge difference on a $400,000 mortgage.

 

12:47pm • #4
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wow, jeff, great post, I like the sales comparisons. I am stealing those ideas to use in my area.
2:11pm • #5
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Great job once again, Jeff.

I am working on my database trying to get a mailing out about this or I would have written one too....

Glad I didn't, this is better. LOL

2:23pm • #6
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Jeff, this was great news when it came out today. I know that ours are going to be a little different than what FHA set as the max.
2:41pm • #7

Jeff, I was looking at this earlier this afternoon. I think this will definitely help with some of the "use to be" Jumbo.s

 

Thanks

2:53pm • #8
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Jeff, Good news.  Can't wait till limits are implement in the bank.  AJ
4:23pm • #9
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Jeff....great news...I almost did a double flip when I saw the FHA maximum in our market in Salt Lake.  I couldn't believe it was so high.
5:12pm • #10
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DAVE....  thanks for the compliments.  I truly think those comparisons tell it all. The problem that I have been finding out from other consumers is that so many loan officers are still advising them to go conventional. It can be a lot more work to put someone into a FHA mortgage.  And the total benefits, if they fit, are going to be much better on a FHA loan than on a conventional loan.  Those facts even prove it, which is sad.  thanks

 

TOM...... thanks a lot for the kind words. I am sure you would have done just as well.  So chop chop... get to those clients.  But one thing that I am finding out and I kind of new this prior to the increases. I think it will help more when it comes to purchasing a new home. But I don't see these new loan amounts, conventional and FHA, helping too many when refinancing. You still need to qualify with income. And many of these past consumers were put into stated loans and I.O. loans...a both.  

I have one lady right now...  who did an 80/20 with a company 2 years ago. Her rate is about to adjust. She was actually put into a 2/28 I.O. loan. Well, we don't have enough room in the house to pay off the 1st and 2nd. What's sad is that they hardly qualify for the first alone. Too many people were put into mortgages that they should have never been given to begin with. 

 

DANNY.......  yes it was. That's the problem, just because FHA set the limits, doesn't mean that the investors have to follow them. There is going to be a lot of confusion in the next week or so, until everyone is on the same page. It's those loan officers that don't know any better who are quoting the highest loan amounts, not realizing the true parameters  and function of that new loan amount limit.   Gee, I don't think anyone has even seen the Mortgagee Letter in regards to this as of yet. a little scary, driving blindly in the dark.

TREVOR......  yes an no. Please read my comment to Tom Burris. Especially in regards to refinances, I don't think this is going to help as many as everyone thought. You need to look at the median family income. It's a lot less than these new loan amounts. And FHA is a full doc program, hence why I think this is great news, but it won't open up the flood gates as many thought.  Just do a google search for median income in specific states or counties. On a full doc, depending on taxes and insurance, a $100,000 income gets someone a $250,000 to a $290,000 mortgage. A $140,000 income gets someone a $400,000 to a $430,000 mortgage.  As you can see, you need to make some good money to even get to a $500,000 home. And the average incomes aren't close to this.

 

AJ.......  yes, it is... but read some of my comments.  I just don't see it being the greatest thing to sliced bread.

KARL......  sounds great, doesn't it. But what kind of incomes do you come across out there?  What is the median family income.  I saw so many people do stated or no doc loans.   I think this will help, but not as much as many think it will. I am not trying to sound gloomy....  but just giving my honest opinion.

 

6:00pm • #11

You said it!  We have to wait and see what the lenders do.  The FHA limits in my area are now $500,000 but that doesnt mean that $500,000 will be considered a conforming loan amount.

Palm Springs Mortgage Guy

7:36pm • #12
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Pima County (Greater Tucson, AZ) went up to $316,000 from $271,000.

Lets see what happens--all we can do is hide and wait!

9:47pm • #13

Jeff this is the best news of the year... hands down... thank you for the explaination...

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Jeff- Do you know what the FHA loan limits are for Port Orange, Daytona Beach, Ormond Beach, Ponce Inlet, FL? I named several cities in Volusia county because the prices vary quite a bit. 
10:51pm • #15
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07
2008
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CHARLES....... exactly... I am seeing a few loan officers that even told consumers a month ago that the new limits came out already... Wrong... now I see so many spreading the new word, and many realtors... but I find this information misleading, because the disclaimer should be.... " we have to wait for the investors to make this into their pricing criteria"...   the higher loan limits might not be set in place with many investors....  and you might need to cover the difference in down payment. This won't be known 100% for a few days to a week...  this needs to be talked about... but too many out there just passing on basic information that in my opinion, is slightly misleading, even if they didn't do this on purpose. We need to leave this kind of information to the mortgage professional, to pass around...

KENT......   that's a small jump.... my local area went up $128,000.  Each local market is going to be different. 

RICK......  yes it is... but we'll see how much it helps... because you still need to qualify with income....  I am seeing many that can't....  so does the higher loan amounts help?  Some, but not as much as many would have thought. Just my opinion... but come back and see me by the end of 2008 when the new stats are out... 

 

LISA.....   do you want me to wash your car also?  lol   I gave you the link above, so you can check each county.

 https://entp.hud.gov/idapp/html/hicostlook.cfm

For places such as Daytona.... 

FHA Mortgage Limits List - FHA Forward

Message:   MORTGAGE LIMITS SUCCESSFULLY COMPLETED


Mortgage maximums as of Wednesday March 05, 2008
(1 records were selected, 1 records displayed.)

MSA Name MSA Code Division County Name County
Code
State One-Family Two-Family Three-Family Four-Family Last Revised
DELTONA-DAYTONA BEACH-ORMOND BEACH, FL (MSA) 19660   VOLUSIA 127 FL $303,750 $388,850 $470,000 $584,150 03/05/2008

Selection criteria
Sorted by: County
State: FL
County: volusia

 

 

Not sure what the limit was before.... do you know?  I am curious to how much it went up.... 

 

12:27am • #16
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Jeff, You are the FHA Expert!...Your phone should be ringing off the hook now.. Thanks for taking my calls
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Hey Jeff - I hope you're having a great week.  I checked the link you provided.  I never thought that I would see FHA limits approaching $300k for the Austin area.  I think when I started in real estate, the limit was about $117k or so.
5:23pm • #19
MAR
08
2008
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Oops. Sorry! But actually, my car is pretty dirty. And the rims could especially use a good cleaning! 

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12:28am • #20
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MATTHEW.....  it has picked up, but even prior to the new loan limits. People need to understand, there might be an issue with the loan limits. Meaning how high a lender can actually go to. And right now, that's only up to $417,000.

RENEE....  that's great.  Especially since your area has been hoping big time in the last 3 months, this will just add a little more to an already positive market for everyone.

JASON..... it's been good.. very good and solid.   Yes, I can remember when I first got in the business, it was about $124,000?   And then went to $172,000.  Just recently it was $292,000...and now it has gone to $420,000.  Big difference and it does open the door for those that can afford it. 

LISA H. ....  hey, no problem. But in regards to your car.... lol   I am too busy, so I can't wash your care.  ;o)

 

3:12pm • #21
MAR
14
2008

I think FHA loans are great.  I hope my company gets approved again soon.  We used to do them a long time ago, but home prices in California did not warrant the loan limits of the not so distant past.  Most people that I know need this program now!! 

 

Thanks for the super information.

 

JL

3:00pm • #22
MAR
26
2008
this has been long overdue
1:21pm • #23
MAR
27
2008
In my humble opinion, the price adjustment on loan amounts over previous county limits do not make FHA the most viable option. Specifically, median credit score > 620. Working in retail, I am almost certain all major lending institutions followed suit with the adjustment. If you are not in the SE US region this may not apply making an FHA transaction over previous limits more luctartive.
11:05am • #25

I am here in Los Angeles and we have plenty of loan opportunity with the new increase. Does anyone know if the lenders are adding pricing adjustments to these higher loan amounts? Also I received a Matrix from one of my lenders and it looks like Cash out refis are limited to 85% for loans over conforming and 94.99% for rate and term. Does anyone know if this is a FHA guide or a lender overlay?

ryanmorrow@skylinefinancialcorp.com

6:13pm • #26
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11
2008

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