Recently, I have seen builders using a product called "LedgerLok" fasteners to secure decks at the ledger board.

Where before the common practice was to use 1/2 inch lag bolts, now it is not all that unusual to see these screws in place.

Since I was ingorant about their installation, I called the manufacturer and talked to one of their techs to find out exactly how they should be installed to fulfill the manufacturer's claim that they are "Stronger than 1/2 inch lag bolts."

We did a rough approximation of a live load calculation and erred on the side of caution and safety (he must have known I'm a safety nut).  Turns out that just a few of these fasteners do quite a job!

It takes 2 fasteners per joist bay (the area between each set of joists) no further than 6 inches apart, and preferably with one high and one lower (called a "one-up, one-down" pattern).  They are very specfic to say that the fasteners must be at least 2 inches (or more) from the edges of the board, and that NO hot tubs, heavy planters, etc are accounted for in this calculation.

One issue you may encounter:  seems their advertising is a bit misleading.  Their claim to be stronger than the lag bolts leads some builders to believe that they can install just one faster per joist bay.  this is WAY too few to provide adequate support.

Thought I'd share since these seem to be catching on and the info may be able to save some headaches!

 

 
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7 Comments on New deck fasteners to watch out for

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2008
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Thanks for sharing. Very informative! I will keep an eye out for them!
10:51pm • #1
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11
2008
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Jim - They caught me off guard!  It was a true case where even an inspector doesn't know evreything.  Fortunately the builder offered me the manufacturers info and I was able to have a lengthy talk (about 45 minutes) with their tech about how to properly use the fasteners.

Dan - Things are very busy....hope they are for you as well!

9:07pm • #3
APR
23
2008

What about the hidden deck fasteners to lay the top of the deck like the ones I saw over at Tiger Claw or EB-TY? This is a difference all your visitors will notice while these LedgerLok work behind the scenes.

What about hidden deck fasteners
4:47pm • #4

Thanks for an informative post.  It's great to know a little about these things when they come up in an inspection.  Makes the Realtor look good.

All the best!

 

4:52pm • #5
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Can't say that I have seen the hidden deck board fastening system in use, but I will look out for it. 

Kevin - glad to be of help!  I think it's always a good idea to know a little about things like this.  Especially since I could see how an inspector may not know they are designed for this use (they look an awful lot like deck screws at first blush) and may call them out as a defect. 

I could also see where people may not be so familiar with them and not know how many are needed in each bay (many builders may take the claim to be "as strong as lag bolts" to mean they only need to use one per bay).

7:19pm • #6
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I can't say that I've seen that little guy running around on any decks out here. They either have lag bolts or nails.

3:43am • #7

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