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Should You Take That Over-Priced Listing? Maybe!

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Real Estate Agent

You are in the middle of a listing appointment when the seller explains they want X number of dollars for their property.  You’ve done your homework with the neighborhood comparable sales, and the seller’s price is significantly inflated from that data.  Should you take the listing at seller’s price?  Well maybe!

I know this opinion will fly in the face of what real estate professionals believe and wish to practice when listing properties for sale.  I’m one of them!  However, in my past there is an experience that particular wisdom didn’t serve me well.  It was back in 2005 when I had gone to list a property of an old friend.   Real estate in Greater Sacramento was hotter than a firecracker, very much like our current real estate cycle.  We had little inventory, and values were quickly escalating.   Comparable sales stats were significantly below what my old friend insisted the property be listed at.  In the end, I did what any “self-respecting” real estate agent would do, I refused to take the listing, saying old familiar words, “It won’t appraise.” 

Here’s the part of the story where I begin to lick my wounds.  My friend listed the home with a competitor, at the outrageous high price the seller required.  It sold within 2 weeks, and to add salt to my wounds, not only did it sell at full price, but $2,000 above it,  It has always haunted me, and I have wondered if other ways existed to handle the situation with sellers who insist on list prices, comparable sales won’t support.

Recently, I had a “déjà vu all over again” experience.  I was called to list a duplex belonging to long-term clients of mine.  And, again, these sellers wanted significantly more than comparative sales material could justify!  There was a singular shining spot in value however.  The duplex had great rental income.  I was tormented because of the haunting memories from 2005.  Again, I tried to reason with my client.  Alas, to no avail!  However, this time I considered that we are currently low on inventory, and Greater Sacramento is one of the nation’s hot spots, helping to lead the country into housing recovery.  By some accounts our values have increased as much as 40% year over year.  Our marketplace is flush with investors packing cash, and who often don’t require appraisal.  We are truly experiencing a realm where property sales are solely between willing buyers and willing sellers.

I informed the sellers we would likely not appraise at their asking price, but I also explained I had been wrong at least once before.  We could in this unusual market cycle try the price, and pray for a cash buyer.  Because of the exuberant pricing, In the back of my head I was also grateful for the thought of not being inundated with dozens of offers within 24 hours, which is so often happening currently.  

In about 48 hours we had our first offer, it was a $1,000 above list price.  It was not cash.  It was 25% down, and would require an appraisal.  I advised sellers we’d likely need to adjust price if the appraisal came in low, should they agree to continue selling to this buyer.  At the moment, it was the only offer received.  But strangely, I had a gut feeling about these buyers.  They had written a very clean straightforward offer without any fluff, or obvious shenanigans.  And, my sellers had the same feelings.  We accepted the offer and kept our fingers crossed. 

 

No sooner had we signed the first offer, when a second offer with all cash came in.  It was $15,000 below list price, but still approximately $20,000 above what comparable sales data was showing as value.  We accepted and put the second offer in back-up position.

Last Friday we closed escrow with the first buyer.  Yep, Folks, the property appraised 100% of sales price, plus $900.00!  It provided some solace for what had happened in 2005, when I absolutely refused to take an overpriced listing, and was proved to be wrong!

What have I learned from this experience, and my 31 years in real estate?  I have learned all real estate is cyclic!  There are windows of opportunity for sellers to sometimes get a little crazy with prices and prevail.  It doesn’t happen often, but it can and does happen!  Opportunity windows like it are usually brief and are few and far between.  They will often require a low inventory condition in the marketplace.  They will usually require the market to be flush with cash buyers, where a willing buyer and willing seller can negotiate price, without the brakes of an appraiser.


There may be a twinge of concern that buyer feeding frenzy hysteria can add to a potential real estate bubble.
  Yet, with the absolute diabolical slashing of home values caused by short-sales and bank foreclosures these past few years, I believe any perceived threats of creating a potential bubble, are a step forward in recovery of lost home values instead!

 

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Myrl Jeffcoat ActiveRain Signature
  

Comments (67)

Gary Frimann, CRS, GRI, SRES
Eagle Ridge Realty / Signature Homes & Estates - Gilroy, CA
REALTOR and Broker

Myrl, great story.  Normally, I would not take an overpriced listing, and I have been burned in the past, but when the market goes crazy, hey, why not.

Aug 26, 2013 02:37 PM
Jill Watts
Realty Pro, Inc. - Vancouver, WA
A Luxury Experience at Every Price Point!

I know that some agents use a "price adjustment" page that the seller will sign at the listing appointment for reducing the price every couple weeks or a certain amount. I haven't done that but sure have thought of it as a good idea. Thanks for your blog.

Aug 26, 2013 02:59 PM
Praful Thakkar
LAER Realty Partners - Burlington, MA
Metro Boston Homes For Sale

Myrl, I have been taught time and again to stay away from listings that are overpriced! That has not helped me anyways. So when someone wants to list a home at a price perceived as higher than market value, I still take the listing making it clear to the sellers what I believe the current market value of the home is.

Aug 26, 2013 03:54 PM
Christine Donovan
Donovan Blatt Realty - Costa Mesa, CA
Broker/Attorney 714-319-9751 DRE01267479 - Costa M
Myrl - I've learned that all we can do is advise our clients on current values and potential problems and then go from there.
Aug 26, 2013 04:37 PM
MichelleCherie Carr Crowe .Just Call. 408-252-8900
Get Results Team...Just Call (408) 252-8900! . DRE #00901962 . Licensed to Sell since 1985 . Altas Realty - San Jose, CA
Family Helping Families Buy & Sell Homes 40+ Years

Always go with your guy on this. Some sellers may be right about a higher price, but are they easy to deal with?

Aug 26, 2013 04:53 PM
Andrew Mooers | 207.532.6573
MOOERS REALTY - Houlton, ME
Northern Maine Real Estate-Aroostook County Broker

Like with a doctor, lawyer, it is a case by case study of should I stay and take the listing or should I go. The will of the seller to no sir, hold firm on seven times the price and his motivation can tell you that you or no other agent is going to come out with a happy ending to the story. With demands for this, this and this marketing and over the top expectations to work you. That said, waterfront is the exception because of shorter supply all the time and pent up energy to have to have a place on a lake, river, etc. They will get what they want, don't need an appraisal so get out of their way, here come the multiple offers. Every situation is different but after 33 years wearing the R you see patterns, reruns with a variation on a theme but familiar plays on the real estate field.

Aug 26, 2013 07:38 PM
Nina Hollander, Broker
Coldwell Banker Realty - Charlotte, NC
Your Greater Charlotte Realtor

I think the answer to this question really depends on the particular situation, neighborhood, and home. Normally overpriced listings will be an issue to sell. But there's always that chance that it could work.

Aug 26, 2013 09:06 PM
Andrew Payne Realtor® Richmond VA Homes For Sale~804-938-5257~
Piedmont Real Estate - Richmond, VA
Richmond, VA, Real Estate, SRES®, NAR Green

Being able to have a home appraise is one of the main reasons we use a CMA.  Each situation is different.  If there's a history of price escalation in the past, then perhaps that ought to be taken into account.

Aug 26, 2013 09:55 PM
Jeff Pearl
RE/MAX Distinctive / LIC in VA - Lovettsville, VA
Full Service Full Time Realtor

This goes to show that agents, sellers, and appraisers many times don't come up with the same value on the same house. You warned them of the possible pitfalls, so taking what we think is an overpriced listing, especially in an improving market, has a good chance of working out well, like this did!

Aug 26, 2013 09:56 PM
Natalia Carey
Coldwell Banker Next Generation Realty - Homosassa, FL
Real Estate Broker Associate

I have several high-end waterfront listings, all of them are higher than fair market prices. And no one owner wants to reduce the price. They truly believe that at some point RE market will meet their price and the are ready to wait... as long as they wait with me - I am OK:))) In a meantime having high -priced listings help me to get avarage ones building my listings portfolio.

 

Aug 26, 2013 10:12 PM
Jeff Dowler, CRS
eXp Realty of California, Inc. - Carlsbad, CA
The Southern California Relocation Dude

Myrl

We have all had a similar experience, at least once, and it's a valuable lesson. This market, in some ways, seems to be all about breaking some traditional rules of thinking. Never say never I guess.

Jeff

Aug 27, 2013 12:04 AM
Sharon Alters
Coldwell Banker Vanguard Realty - 904-673-2308 - Fleming Island, FL
Realtor - Homes for Sale Fleming Island FL

Myrl, somewhere in Sacramento, there are agents scratching their heads wondering how on earth you came up with that price and got it for your Sellers! 

Aug 27, 2013 01:23 PM
Christine Gerbehy
Berkshire Hathaway Home Services Fox and Roach Northfield - Egg Harbor Township, NJ
Making waves, one home at a time...

So true...  I've had homes that we SWORE would never appraise and did, and I've also had ones that we had to drop the price on because they didn't, lol!  I've learned to take the chance...

Aug 27, 2013 02:12 PM
Gayle Rich-Boxman Fishhawk Lake Real Estate
John L Scott Market Center - Birkenfeld, OR
"Your Local Expert!" 503-739-3843

Mryl, in this business, one could say that you're never "too experienced to learn". Way to go by moving past old wounds, learning how to say I was wrong and thus being rewarded for it!

AND you got featured!!

Aug 27, 2013 05:43 PM
Regina P. Brown
MBA Broker Consultants - Carlsbad, CA
M.B.A., Broker, Instructor

I think we all learn from our experiences.  The best part is that you were able to talk to your sellers and set the right expectations upfront.

 
Aug 29, 2013 01:07 AM
Lyn Sims
Schaumburg, IL
Real Estate Broker Retired

I've also had those haunting moments from the past where you said no & it still closed at the higher price. It's like poker sometimes.

Aug 30, 2013 03:46 AM
Robert Hammerstein
Christie's International Real Estate - Hillsdale, NJ
Bergen County NJ Real Estate

Myrl - This situation comes up a lot in our profession. We try to let the seller know up front as well what to expect. I explain everything I can to make them understand the market and the competition that selling at an upwardly out of range price and how it will affect them in the long run. Mostly we win but alas there will always be sellers that don't listen. We are after all there for their benefit.

Aug 30, 2013 02:21 PM
Dorie Dillard Austin TX
Coldwell Banker Realty ~ 512.750.6899 - Austin, TX
NW Austin ~ Canyon Creek and Spicewood/Balcones

Congrats on the well deserved featured post. Gayle is right..in this business "you are never too experienced" . I'm impressed - you got over that ordeal in 2005, learned from it and moved on..Good for you!! A true professional! 

Aug 30, 2013 08:27 PM
Pam Graham
All Real Estate Options - Jacksonville, FL
Jacksonville, Clay & St Johns Counties

I think it was a good lesson to learn and sometimes we are not always right. If you had taken the listing, but it didn't sell, then a reduction would be in order. Hard to determine how things will go.

Aug 31, 2013 03:34 AM
John G. Johnston
John G. Johnston & Associates, LLC - Westcliffe, CO
An Exclusive Buyer's Agent ~ Westcliffe, CO

Myrl  You exhibit the true professional you are...you made it work.  We have a couple of agents that are very capable of getting top dollar for properties.  They are on my Christmas card list as they raise my property values.

Sep 04, 2013 12:47 PM