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Is it okay to have a hole in the attic firewall? This is not good.

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Is it okay to have a hole in the attic firewall?

This is not good.

 

After a recent rain, there were some leaks that appeared in the ceiling of the apartment units. The onsite maintenance crew did some checking of the attic for the source of the water. When I met them to talk about what they had seen in the attic area, the first question out of their mouth was,

“Is it okay to have a hole in the firewall?”

Firewall damage in Sacramento Apartment 

 

What? I have to take a look at this for myself. I was told that the hole wasn’t too big; that concerned me. There is not supposed to be any open penetrations through a firewall. The firewall is designed to contain a fire for a while, slowing down the spread of a fire from one unit to the next. Any opening will create a “hot spot” that the flames will accelerate through to the next unit.

It is important that this firewall is maintained, so any openings must be corrected. It is not uncommon to find these openings in the attic area. It is my experience that since the attic is usually seen by many, some choose to make their job easier by just opening the wall and step through. I have find that there is a cable wire passing through the opening in the firewall – I wonder who cut the hole?

Regardless of the reason, the Sacramento apartment firewall is designed to protect the property and the residents of the apartment building; it needs to be made right in order for it to function properly.

  

 

 


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Tom Arstingstall, General Contractor, Dry Rot, Water Damage Sacramento, El Dorado County - (916) 765-5366
Dry Rot and Water Damage www.tromlerconstruction.com Mobile - 916-765-5366 - Placerville, CA
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Unless you are an attic monkey like some of us, you would never know that this problem exists until it was too late Hella.

Sep 28, 2013 12:10 AM
Tom Arstingstall, General Contractor, Dry Rot, Water Damage Sacramento, El Dorado County - (916) 765-5366
Dry Rot and Water Damage www.tromlerconstruction.com Mobile - 916-765-5366 - Placerville, CA
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Both the County and the Fire Marshall would be interested Lenn

Sep 28, 2013 12:11 AM
Tom Arstingstall, General Contractor, Dry Rot, Water Damage Sacramento, El Dorado County - (916) 765-5366
Dry Rot and Water Damage www.tromlerconstruction.com Mobile - 916-765-5366 - Placerville, CA
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You are not familiar with the caliber of the staffing Debbie

Sep 28, 2013 12:11 AM
Will Hamm
Hamm Homes - Aurora, CO
"Where There's a Will, There's a Way!"

Hello Tom,  Thanks for the information, I had a home I was selling that had a problem like this and it was the first time my inspector came across ir.

Sep 28, 2013 12:11 AM
Mike Young
203kOnLine.com, covering the USA - Stallings, NC
FHA 203k Consultant 916-758-1809

Tom, I used to have units and I found that one tenant thought he could get into the other units via the attic, the firewall was merely a temporary way to keep him out... he thought he was "fire" maybe. lol

Sep 28, 2013 12:16 AM
Tom Arstingstall, General Contractor, Dry Rot, Water Damage Sacramento, El Dorado County - (916) 765-5366
Dry Rot and Water Damage www.tromlerconstruction.com Mobile - 916-765-5366 - Placerville, CA
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I guess that would be a similar situation Clint.

Sep 28, 2013 12:16 AM
Tom Arstingstall, General Contractor, Dry Rot, Water Damage Sacramento, El Dorado County - (916) 765-5366
Dry Rot and Water Damage www.tromlerconstruction.com Mobile - 916-765-5366 - Placerville, CA
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Your inspector would be impressed with the apartment conditions that I have seen over the years Will.

Sep 28, 2013 12:17 AM
Tom Arstingstall, General Contractor, Dry Rot, Water Damage Sacramento, El Dorado County - (916) 765-5366
Dry Rot and Water Damage www.tromlerconstruction.com Mobile - 916-765-5366 - Placerville, CA
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Mike - I have been to apartment communities that have had problems with tenants climbing into the attic and down through the unit next door through the attic access.

Sep 28, 2013 12:20 AM
Debbie Reynolds, C21 Platinum Properties
Platinum Properties- (931)771-9070 - Clarksville, TN
The Dedicated Clarksville TN Realtor-(931)320-6730

I agree Tom, not good at all. That just creates a winddraft and speeds the fire right along.

Sep 28, 2013 12:34 AM
Dorie Dillard Austin TX
Coldwell Banker Realty ~ 512.750.6899 - Austin, TX
NW Austin ~ Canyon Creek and Spicewood/Balcones

Hi Tom,

Yikes!! This could spell a disaster! Glad you caught it!

Sep 28, 2013 03:53 AM
Tom Arstingstall, General Contractor, Dry Rot, Water Damage Sacramento, El Dorado County - (916) 765-5366
Dry Rot and Water Damage www.tromlerconstruction.com Mobile - 916-765-5366 - Placerville, CA
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You have described exactly why we need to get this taken care of Debbie.

Sep 28, 2013 05:44 AM
Tom Arstingstall, General Contractor, Dry Rot, Water Damage Sacramento, El Dorado County - (916) 765-5366
Dry Rot and Water Damage www.tromlerconstruction.com Mobile - 916-765-5366 - Placerville, CA
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Maybe we need to educate all the clowns that are up there climbing around abiout the dangers of cutting things open Dorie.

Sep 28, 2013 05:45 AM
Kathleen Daniels, Probate & Trust Specialist
KD Realty - 408.972.1822 - San Jose, CA
Probate Real Estate Services

Tom, It seems to me that the term "fire wall" kinda speaks for itself.  But, apparently that is not the case.  I once asked a contractor to replace the hydraulic hinge on my fire door.  He asked me what is a fire door?  I said, never mind.  When I say hydraulic hinge I mean pneumatic hinge that makes the door shut all the way. I may have my “terms” incorrect but I think you know what I am referring to.

 

Sep 28, 2013 08:39 AM
Debbie Reynolds, C21 Platinum Properties
Platinum Properties- (931)771-9070 - Clarksville, TN
The Dedicated Clarksville TN Realtor-(931)320-6730

Hi Tom, I hope you popped over to my blog to see that you were featured in my Saturday Subscriber Finds for today.

Sep 28, 2013 01:19 PM
Alan Kirkpatrick
Austin Texas Homes - Round Rock, TX
Alan in Austin

Tom:

Another great informative post. Thanks for sharing it with us. 

Sep 28, 2013 01:47 PM
Tom Arstingstall, General Contractor, Dry Rot, Water Damage Sacramento, El Dorado County - (916) 765-5366
Dry Rot and Water Damage www.tromlerconstruction.com Mobile - 916-765-5366 - Placerville, CA
General Contractor, Dry Rot and Water Damage

I do know what you are referring to, any contractor should Kathleen

I hope you found an answer to the problem.

 

Sep 29, 2013 08:28 AM
Tom Arstingstall, General Contractor, Dry Rot, Water Damage Sacramento, El Dorado County - (916) 765-5366
Dry Rot and Water Damage www.tromlerconstruction.com Mobile - 916-765-5366 - Placerville, CA
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I sure did Debbie, it is an honor to be included in that list.

Sep 29, 2013 08:29 AM
Tom Arstingstall, General Contractor, Dry Rot, Water Damage Sacramento, El Dorado County - (916) 765-5366
Dry Rot and Water Damage www.tromlerconstruction.com Mobile - 916-765-5366 - Placerville, CA
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My pleasure Alan!

Sep 29, 2013 08:30 AM
Andrew Payne Realtor® Richmond VA Homes For Sale~804-938-5257~
Piedmont Real Estate - Richmond, VA
Richmond, VA, Real Estate, SRES®, NAR Green

Knowing about an attic firewall is very helpful.  Thanks for sharing!

Sep 29, 2013 01:33 PM
Tom Arstingstall, General Contractor, Dry Rot, Water Damage Sacramento, El Dorado County - (916) 765-5366
Dry Rot and Water Damage www.tromlerconstruction.com Mobile - 916-765-5366 - Placerville, CA
General Contractor, Dry Rot and Water Damage

The firewall is very important, the more we know about them the better for everyone Andrew.

Sep 30, 2013 04:14 PM