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Section 8, Fair Housing and Disparate Impact

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Section 8, Fair Housing and Disparate Impact

Section 8, Fair Housing and Disparate Impact

 

I've said it a number of times over the years, and I'll probably continue to say it for many more to come:  I hate the Section 8 program.  Folks in favor of it and similar voucher-type assistance programs may say "Don't hate the player- hate the game", and that's exactly what I hate- the voucher racket and all that's associated with it.

Sure, I can hear some of you already- saying "Folks need help", "The economy is bad!" and/or some variation of "If George Bush had....or if he hadn't....".  My response would be that I agree, yes it is, and it's no longer George Bush's fault.

Let there be no doubt that I see a need for "folks to get help"- and anyone buy the staunchest of Obama supporters would agree that the economy is bad and Bush has nothing to do with it 5 years in the current administration's tenure.  What I don't see a need for is the Section 8 program and other similar ones that force us to pay for someone else's rent.

Call it crazy or old-school, but I have this funky idea in my head that folks should pay their own rent- and it's not my fault if they can't do so, and I contend it shouldn't be my responsibility to pay their rent for them.  Our government and its programs like this have done nothing but create generations of an entitled dependency class possessing little desire to stand on their own their feet, blissfully content with taking the government-imposed charity forced from the hands of their hard-working neighbors.

The misguided "Housing is a right" mindset carries over from Section 8, of course- and lands in the discussion over "disparate impact".  Going above and beyond our "normal" Fair Housing laws which seek to ensure all have an equal opportunity to housing and look to assess the intent of folks who might deny one that access, disparate impact focuses on practices' results.  This is a scary thing for the honest and well-intentioned among us- for entities claiming discrimination need only prove disagreeable results despite good intent.

December 4th will be a big day for both Fair Housing and disparate impact, as the Supreme Court hears Case 11-1507, Township of Mount Holly, New Jersey vs. Mount Holly Citizens in Action.  In this, Mount Holly is being accused of discrimination against minorities for seeking to allow detached single family housing in a certain area.  The claim is that poorer folks won't be able to afford them... and since minorities are most likely to be poor, building the homes would discriminate against minorities.

The words of none other than the FHA's champion Walter Mondale arise in this argument, as he stated that its intent was "to permit people who have the ability to do so to buy any house offered to the public if they can afford to buy it".

My, how we've strayed...far from Mondale's words and farther still from the principles of our founding.  Fair Housing and Equal Opportunity should be just that- a guaranteed level playing field for all.  Free housing at the expense of neighbors' tax dollars and preventing others' homes from being built due to the inability of some to afford them was never anyone's intent- and there's nothing fair about it.

Let's hope the Supreme Court gets this one right.

 

Section 8, Fair Housing and Disparate Impact

 

 

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DENNIS B. BURGESS
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Rob Arnold
Sand Dollar Realty Group, Inc. - Altamonte Springs, FL
Metro Orlando Full Service - Investor Friendly & F

I am with you that people need to pay their own way.  When I was growing up, people that accepted welfare were a huge embarassment and did so in shame.  Now a days nearly 50% of all households in America are getting a check from the government of some sort.  Not all of those are welfare checks (i.e. social security, pensions, military), but it still makes people dependent on the government.  People have gotten so heavily dependent on the government any more that if the government stopped sending out checks for 90 days that half of all Americans would probably be sleeping under a bridge or in the woods.

Oct 25, 2013 07:24 AM
Dennis Burgess
AmeriTeam Property Management - Mid Florida, FL
Orlando Property Manager and Realtor

Hi, Rob:  Thank you for stopping by, and for your comments.  Exactly.  Personal responsibility has gone from us because we're afraid to make others accept it.  We're afraid of being called this, being called that- we've long settled into the mode where whomever assembles the loudest mob in the streets is able to dictate both our country's conversations and how many lawmakers they can have running scared they might protest them or some of their votes.

We've lost the "honest day's work for an honest day's pay" mindset, replaced it with a "get what you can while the government is still giving it" mindset.

As unemployed folks who have spent 40-50 years in public housing complain about how the government should be doing more for them, you can't help but shake your head and wonder when the madness will stop.

Oct 25, 2013 08:11 AM
Fred Griffin Florida Real Estate
Fred Griffin Real Estate - Tallahassee, FL
Licensed Florida Real Estate Broker

     The Welfare State is devolving into the Socialist State which will soon morph into the Communist State.  The Feds will abolish all private property rights; the Government will decide who lives where.

Oct 25, 2013 10:16 AM
Dennis Burgess
AmeriTeam Property Management - Mid Florida, FL
Orlando Property Manager and Realtor

Hi, Fred:  Thank you for dropping by, and for your comment.  Scary, but no longer unbelievable or incredible.  Part of the deal with Disparate Impact and some of the other state-level Fair Housing laws address the new protected class, "source of one's income".  By law, anyone refusing to rent to those on Section 8 are discriminating against folks- and it virtually forces individual owners to rent to folks they'd rather not rent to in order to avoid possible suits.

It's a new private property rights discussion, to be sure- do folks have the right to do what they want to do with their own places?  Answer to that seems like "No".

Oct 25, 2013 10:42 AM
William Feela
WHISPERING PINES REALTY - North Branch, MN
Realtor, Whispering Pines Realty 651-674-5999 No.

Some people need the welfare, and others scam the system.

It will be Bush's fault until the cows come home, because the Dems are not showing anything as far as fixing the economy but putting us further in debt

Oct 26, 2013 10:53 AM
Dennis Burgess
AmeriTeam Property Management - Mid Florida, FL
Orlando Property Manager and Realtor

Hi, William:  Thank you for stopping by, and for your comment.  I'd have to say I sort-of agree with you- in that some people need the welfare.  I agree that a lot of folks "need the welfare" for a short period of time, but I'll contend that no one needs the 40-50 years of public housing they receive.

Folks can surely show the "need" our government requires by proving they either don't make enough money or don't make any money at all, mind you- the problem lies in our lack of will to tell them that enough is enough- and that they need to start pulling their weight like the rest of us.

Now, as for the Democrats, I wholeheartedly agree with you on them....

Oct 28, 2013 05:21 AM