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The dark side of Carbon Monoxide Detectors

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Home Inspector with Charles Buell Inspections Inc.

Carbon Monoxide detectors have been in the news a lot lately and with good reason.  Given that the gas is colorless, odorless and can kill you while you sleep are all good enough reasons for me to pay attention. The building codes themselves require them, and in addition, many states have made laws requiring them.

There is a dark side to CO detectors that is not discussed very much however, and I have blogged about this issue with Carbon Monoxide Detectors in the past. 

This missing information can leave the consumer with a false sense of security. 

Most of the CO detectors required by state laws and the building codes are quite good at detecting Carbon Monoxide in relatively acute doses.  Acute doses are large levels of exposure over relatively short time periods.  They are not very good at detecting Carbon Monoxide at chronic levels—low levels of exposure over longer periods of time.

In fact, the CO detectors required in your home are NOT ALLOWED to signal a problem at levels below 30ppm in order for them to obtain the UL listing necessary to meet the codes (UL 2034).  It is interesting to note that most of these alarms are designed to sound at or below 70ppm within 60 to 240 minutes (I do not think that this information should make anyone feel protected). 

There is a stream of emerging data (see HUD: Healthy Homes Issues: Carbon Monoxide) that there are health risks associated with low levels of CO exposure—levels below what is considered safe by the EPA.  According to the EPA levels of CO below 9 ppm over an 8 hour period, or 35ppm for one hour are considered “safe.”  Research is beginning to show that the elderly, the very young, the unborn and some other individuals experience negative physical, cognitive and emotional effects with exposures below these levels.

There is technology available for detecting low levels of  CO.  These devices do not meet UL 2034 and therefore cannot be “substituted” for the poorer performing listed devices but must instead be used as supplements to the required detectors.

One such device is the “Defender” CO detector.  It is capable of detecting levels as low as 5 ppm for less than a minute.  It has a wide range of sensitivities with different alarms and visual read-outs to display different levels of concern.  These seem like a prudent device for any home. These devices also attempt to deal with the issue of when they have reached the end of their expected life.  They come with a sealed in place battery so when the battery is dead you simply replace the whole device.  I wonder how many regular detectors will continue to give their false sense of security long after the batteries are dead or when batteries are replaced when the units are well past their expected life.

Also keep in mind that there is no substitute for regular servicing of all combustion appliances in the home.  Proper servicing is an essential part of any CO mitigation/detection system installed in the home.

 

Charles Buell, Real Estate Inspections in Seattle

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Drick Ward Property Management / Broker Assoc
NEPTUNE REALTY - Virginia Beach, VA
"RealtorDrick" - Experienced Representation

Thank you for the information and for the discussion from everyone

Oct 28, 2013 11:29 PM
Kat Palmiotti
eXp Commercial, Referral Divison - Kalispell, MT
Helping your Montana dreams take root

I had no idea.   I'm going to have to get a low-level detector!

Oct 29, 2013 12:05 AM
Jerry Lucas
ABC Legal Docs LLC - Colorado Springs, CO
Notary Training, Consulting. Colorado Springs, CO

Thanks for the information.  I have a CO detector but have not read about low level exposure before.

Oct 29, 2013 12:23 AM
Charles Buell
Charles Buell Inspections Inc. - Seattle, WA
Seattle Home Inspector

Drick, you are welcome

Kat, I think a lot of people will be now

Jerry, now you know

Oct 29, 2013 12:48 AM
Dwight Puntigan
DRP Realty, LLC - Saint Peters, MO
Dwight Puntigan

Walls used to be for decorative items.  Mine are being filled with detectors.  NFPA certified rep was here last week to explain several detectors.  Most fires that kill people in their sleep are smoldering fires.  Detector of choice is a photo electric sensor.  This is different than the standard ionic chamber smoke detector that is so good at telling me I am burning the bacon.  We also need the heat detector set to the right temperature for its location.  Don't forget the heat rise detector that senses changes in temperature.Add the detector for radon and another for smelling gas.  This does not include the two carbon monoxide detectors.  WOW!

Oct 29, 2013 01:14 AM
Greg Nino
RE/MAX Compass - Houston, TX
Houston, Texas

Good read. Thanks for posting this. Will pass this along to everyone....

Oct 29, 2013 01:46 AM
Charles Buell
Charles Buell Inspections Inc. - Seattle, WA
Seattle Home Inspector

Dwight, so true about the photo-electric smoke detectors.  The American Society of Home Inspectors, ASHI, has come out publiclly to recommend installation of ONLY photo-electric type detectors.  I have never heard of a stationary Radon Detector---not an issue where I am.  Warning sensors will become even more a part of our lives in the future I am afraid.

Greg, thanks---get the word out.

Oct 29, 2013 02:41 AM
Debb Janes
Nature As Neighbors - Camas, WA
Put My Love of Nature At Work for You

Life and health saving information here Charles. Thank you. I remember a listing agent grumble about an inspector who wanted to test for radon levels - the agent called me to complain that radon was NOT an issue and that the guy shouldn't be allowed to do inspections. How curious...we've since learned that in our county, there are many pockets of neighborhoods built in areas with alarmingly high radon levels.

Oct 29, 2013 03:29 AM
Charles Buell
Charles Buell Inspections Inc. - Seattle, WA
Seattle Home Inspector

Debb, Clark County is indeed one of the "hot spots" for WA State.  However, I never like to pass up an opportunity to tilt at one of my favorite windmills, so please check out the following links:

http://www.forensic-applications.com/radon/radon.html

http://www.forensic-applications.com/radon/reviews.html

Radon, is another example of where legislation likely got ahead of science.

 

Oct 29, 2013 03:37 AM
Kim Peasley-Parker
AgentOwned Realty, Heritage Group, Inc. - Sumter, SC

Wow, I thought all detectors were the same.  Definitely would need to do some research before purchasing and decide how much risk you are willing to take.  

 

Oct 29, 2013 07:04 AM
Morgan Evans
Douglas Elliman Real Estate - Manhattan, NY
LICENSED REAL ESTATE SALESPERSON

Definitely didn't know about the risk of low levels of carbon monoxide and that there was a device to detect these lower levels.

Oct 29, 2013 10:31 AM
Gita Bantwal
RE/MAX Centre Realtors - Warwick, PA
REALTOR,ABR,CRS,SRES,GRI - Bucks County & Philadel

Thank you for the information. I will share it with others.

Oct 29, 2013 11:26 AM
Gerard Gilbers
Higher Authority Markeing - Asheboro, NC
Your Marketing Master

Great information. I was unaware that the standard for these are not as good as they should be to protect the occupants. 

Oct 29, 2013 12:39 PM
Donald Hester
NCW Home Inspections, LLC - Wenatchee, WA
NCW Home Inspections, LLC

Charlie good info as always. Low level chronic CO is just really starting to get some traction. The British seem to be ahead of in this area. CO prevents proper Oxygen absorption and release in the blood and builds up over time.

Oct 29, 2013 01:18 PM
Charles Buell
Charles Buell Inspections Inc. - Seattle, WA
Seattle Home Inspector

Kim, I guess there will always be risk---but it is good to keep up with the science if we can

Morgan, yes---now we will be seeing both and in time either the codes will adjust or combination ones will become the norm

Gita, thanks

Gerard, it is a case of the codes not keeping up with the science I think

Don, why are we always playing catch-up with som many countries?

Oct 29, 2013 01:51 PM
Michael Dagner
Brokers Guild Classic - Denver, CO
Your Denver Homes Realty Expert

Did not know the limitations of the technology behind the more inexpensive devices sold in most retail stores.  The science behind these carbon monoxide detectors is good for everyone to know.  Thanks for researching and posting!

Oct 29, 2013 03:35 PM
Steve Mun
Keller Williams Silicon Valley - Santa Clara, CA
Silicon Valley Realtor

Interesting stuff Charles.  Thanks for enlightening us. 

Nov 01, 2013 10:58 AM
Charles Buell
Charles Buell Inspections Inc. - Seattle, WA
Seattle Home Inspector

Michael, you are welcome

Steve, all in a days work, playing in the rain

Nov 02, 2013 01:19 AM
James Quarello
JRV Home Inspection Services, LLC - Wallingford, CT
Connecticut Home Inspector

Good info. A false sense of security is right. People install these devices and believe they are fully protected when in fact they are left partially risk exposed. 

Nov 02, 2013 10:19 PM
Charles Buell
Charles Buell Inspections Inc. - Seattle, WA
Seattle Home Inspector

Jim, for sure.  I think in the coming years we are going to hear a lot more about issues with low level CO exposure

Nov 03, 2013 12:58 AM